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#1
Curious to see how Trinity works these numbers. Theses numbers might not be official. There roster last year was at 100 players graduating roughly 23 and adding 29 players this would put them at 106. If roster limits I am assuming is at 80 now that would mean 26 players are going to get cut or already have been cut.

What I am not understanding is this just for 2025 or with playoffs in 2026 will this be gone seems like NESCAC is hurting themselves by the lower roster sizes for any type of playoff runs against schools able to recruit in larger numbers.
#2
So does anyone have any updates on how NESCAC teams looked in the spring.

In terms of playoffs I know nothing happening this year. However will roster limits increase now because of the season extension has there been any talk about this ?
#3
Quote from: The truth 101 on April 24, 2025, 06:23:02 PMIt seems as though Trinity has lost Sophomore Jordan Atkinson (I believe team sack leader) to the transfer portal. Tough blow to the Bangs who are already losing a lot of talent.


This move is somewhat perplexing. This player only has two years eligibility remaining and while a solid player going to struggle to break the lineup at a D! school unless he is going to red shirt.

This leaves with his departure and seniors graduating the only returning player who showed a great deal of promise last year and ready to step up given reps to potential all star would be Joe Toyias who can play all the positions but remains to be seen where Trinity will utilize him. I also am not positive is he a Senior or Junior I did not see in his Bio if he played freshman year or was hurt ?
#4
Bates transition period. The offensive Coordinator and person responsible for the offensive transformation at Bates is moving on to the Ivy League and this along with loosing there starting center who in this offense is key could mean a huge step back for the Bates program. Do not know if same offense will be run in 2025.

Bates I could be wrong has one the highest turnover of assistant Coaches I think in the league. I don't know of a stat tracker on this but seems like a high transition.
#5
Any feedback from teams from Spring Ball and who is rising up the ranks for NESCAC ?
#6
Has anyone heard any updates on Football playoff for NESCAC ?

Also how do teams handle the roster limits with potential injured players coming back. Do they get a roster exemption for those individuals or do they still count on roster limit size ?
#7
Interesting take on the Podcast with Coach Devanney from Trinity. He stated that no other NESCAC sport has roster limitations and made many compelling arguments as to the reasoning for this and the fact that this is Division 3 football. The fact that the Presidents of the league feel it is necessary to single out football for this is amazing.In addition while they are potentially allowing the NESCAC to go into the playoffs they are going to be competing against schools that have potential roster limits of 125 or more.So it is clear that there is a definite discriminatory power existing in the NESCAC towards football. I am surprised that this stance on both has not been argued or even brought to a legal proceeding.

If a school like a Williams , Amherst and to a smaller extent Middlebury and Hamilton do not want larger rosters that is a an individual school decision. I find it odd that no one says anything about Tufts having the largest Lacrosse Roster in the NESCAC or some of the swimming teams having 20 to 30 players yet football always is looked at.

If you are a so called elite academic school so be it no one is asking that you sacrifice your academic standards. If you value football and want a big roster then you should be allowed to have as many players as you want.I find it odd that the Presidents and the NESCAC athletic board dictate this for football when they do not interfere with any other sports.

Let's also keep this in mind Coach Devanney pointed out that girls lacrosse last year players missed finals and graduation and that schools adjusted this for them and had a separate graduation. So this can be done very easily in football. It is clear that this discrimination will reach a court proceeding at some point and questions will have to be answered.
#8
Have the final recruiting list been made public yet for the NESCAC. I have not seen Trinity , Middlebury or Colby and a few others final list and numbers
#9
I heard rumors that the NCAA could potentially allow players 5 years of athletic eligibility across all sports. This is under serious consideration and could be implemented in under a year. Does anyone know how this would affect the NESCAC landscape if at all ?
#10
I am not saying it will happen and there were other factors involved but we have seen in the past what a change in President and Athletic Director can do to a football program. If we look at what happened to Amherst when they had that 5 to 7 in NESCAC football. There was a philisophical change in recruitment by the President and the AD and the program has not been the same.
#11
Heard some intersting news today that Trinity Athletic Director will be leaving Trinity College. This will be an intersting year in the Hartford State as a new President of the College was also introduced. This could have a major impact going forward for the football program at Trinity. We have all seen what incoming Presidents and Athletic directors have done to sports programs.
#12
Will the addition of NESCAC going into potential playoffs either in 2025 or 2026 have an impact on roster sizes. I was also told that teams going into the D3 playoffs have to bring a reduced roster. Has anyone else heard these same conditions and playoff roster adjustments ?
#13
Quote from: Nescacman on December 18, 2024, 10:01:37 AM
Quote from: Garnet on December 18, 2024, 09:03:41 AMThe Ivy League has agreed to participate in the NCAA Division I FCS playoffs, starting with the 2025 season. The league had long ended its season at the end of the regular season. Marks a distinct shift for Ivy League football, which can now play for national title.

The genesis of the idea for the Ivy League to play in FCS playoffs came via a proposal from Ivy League student athletes. The proposal from the league's Student-Athlete Advisory Committee (SAAC) was approved Tuesday by a vote of the Ivy League Council of Presidents. - Pete Thamel ESPN

will NESCAC do the same?

Our belief, as previously stated, is that the NESCAC will commence their participation in the D3 Play-offs in 2026. Finally...

Curious as to why wait for 2026 easily to implement for next year does not affect regular season they just start a week or two earlier. This would not affect school academic calendar just preseason dating. In addition only the winner of the league goes into playoffs to the best of my knowledge so why wait another year ?
#14
Quote from: oldezra on December 09, 2024, 12:32:54 AMSo, we're up to three now. Thanks!

Lets also not forget Mark Ruben DL played for Tufts and played for Patriots as well.

Jean Fugett TE played for Amherst College and Dallas Cowboys won a Super Bowl and Pro Bowl selection.
#15
Quote from: BigKat on December 03, 2024, 08:41:06 AMChaz and fellas, just like the Ivy's, this isn't a coach or AD in favor of thing. Of course they are in favor of playoffs as are all of us fans. The Nescac presidents would have to vote and approve it. From those who have spoken with Robin Harris recently, the Ivy presidents are lukewarm on playoffs as we stand here today fwiw.

Just curious other then the Presidents of NESCAC being against the extra game or playoffs are there any other compelling issues. I understand they are worried that the extra game would cut into there academic studies just curious if there are any other issues ?

I thought possibly travel expenses but they send other sports teams to various tournaments and playoffs out of State so it cant be a financial issue.