Quote from: MonroviaCat on August 07, 2025, 09:05:39 PMIt's a long list of Linfield greats at the QB (and other) positions.  This might not be the one your are thinking of though....

I was thinking Aaron Bohme if he's still coaching.

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Quote from: RFBredux on August 07, 2025, 10:38:17 AMFootball season is upon us. Can Redlands break 3 wins this season? I'm not so sure they can.

They absolutely have to win game 1. If they lose to George Fox at home again it's hard to see things trending up from there.

Assuming they get Tremain back they should be improved, right?

I hope Tremain is healthy and Redlands doesn't rely on him solely at the position like years past. It was just 2 seasons ago where the backup couldn't complete a simple pass to save his life.

Quote from: MonroviaCat on August 07, 2025, 02:44:18 PMRumor is it's another former Linfield QB...

Another Linfield great if it's who I think you're talking about.

Football season is upon us. Can Redlands break 3 wins this season? I'm not so sure they can.

This board used to be flush with activity and is just about dead.

Who is replacing Brett Elliott as OC at Linfield?

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Quote from: 10Freeway on July 25, 2025, 12:06:54 PMChapman has promoted their OC to Interim HC.

Chapman Interim HC

Chapman is the most attractive job in the conference in my opinion, and the best they could do is promote an interim? That's how you get a Jim Good type coach to sink your program.

When you take into consideration how short notice they had to fill the head coaching job, an interim-H.C. is to be expected.

They had plenty of time. Lewis & Clark hired Brett Elliott from Linfield in a similar amount of time, so don't buy it.

So Bob retired in early May and we are in July and that is plenty of time?  OK?  Either way, this guy has been with the Panthers for a dozen years, so he is qualified for an opportunity.  Just one Chapman Alumnus opinion.  My son played at CLU.

Jim Good was a lead assistant for a decade as well, and we all saw how that turned out. Sure, let him lead Chapman for a season, and then hire an accomplished coach to lead the program!

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Quote from: RFBredux on July 26, 2025, 11:01:17 AM

Quote from: 10Freeway on July 25, 2025, 12:06:54 PMChapman has promoted their OC to Interim HC.

Chapman Interim HC

Chapman is the most attractive job in the conference in my opinion, and the best they could do is promote an interim? That's how you get a Jim Good type coach to sink your program.

When you take into consideration how short notice they had to fill the head coaching job, an interim-H.C. is to be expected.

They had plenty of time. Lewis & Clark hired Brett Elliott from Linfield in a similar amount of time, so don't buy it.

Quote from: 10Freeway on July 25, 2025, 12:06:54 PMChapman has promoted their OC to Interim HC.

Chapman Interim HC

Chapman is the most attractive job in the conference in my opinion, and the best they could do is promote an interim? That's how you get a Jim Good type coach to sink your program.

Quote from: olddog on July 21, 2025, 11:17:48 AMSome of those weight lifting max's on the board are from the 90's...maybe better supplements back in the day?

Stronger and tougher kids back then. Tuesday night practice/scrimmages were full on wars between the offense and defense. Full bang, kill each other, seat at the table/let the paramedics sort them out type ****.

Quote from: olddog on July 17, 2025, 07:47:17 PMRBF

You are correct, in order to play 20 plus years ago you had to be tougher than today's players. Its not their fault but the new rules make one play soft. The game was may more rugged and violent back in the day, crack backs were legal, leg whips were legal, could hit QBs if within two steps after ball is gone, could hit WR anytime as long as the ball was not in the air, we would hit runners one step out of bounds, we used our helmets as a weapon, we played with inferior equipment compared to today, up until my senior year in HS we did not get water breaks and did three a days (could you imagine the helicopter parents today) , we ran wedges and wedge blockers on kick off, we could hurdle the pile of FG block, we could can the center on field goals, and punts.
About half the kids I see playing HS Football would wilt ...if they were subject this short list above.

Lastly when laid someone out we did not flex or say to the crowd look at me.

Exactly! The game was better then and today's iteration is a watered down powder puff version of what was once a great sport.

Just look at the false start rules being implemented for this season on the defensive line. The stewards of the sport can't get out of their own way and continue to make the game worse.

Quote from: hazzben on July 17, 2025, 03:50:52 PMMy man, if you don't think S&C has evolved in the last 30 years I don't know what to tell you. Again, no offense, but Nebraska's cutting edge stuff under Boyd Epley was more advanced than anything anyone in D3 was doing back in the 90's. And that stuff at Nebraska from the 90's has been lapped by today's best small college programs.

The point isn't that guys came in utterly out of shape and unable to play. It's that they come better conditioned today than they did 20 or 30 years ago. That's just reality. If the stuff Redlands is doing today is the same (or worse than) it was doing in the 90's, then best of luck ever getting competitive on a national level again.   

You guys had a Spring class for lifting ... thanks for proving my point man. A spring class, lol! Compare that to 6am S&C sessions all offseason. Maybe it's an ego thing to think it was a man's game back when you played.

Out of season football activity (organized) was banned in the SCIAC  back then. The Dynanic Fitness class was a way around it without football coaches involved in it, but it was our S&C program in the offseason which was based on Nebraska's Bigger/Faster/Stronger program.

And I'm well versed on modern day S&C as my daughter just graduated HS and was a starting guard on one of the best basketball teams in San Diego. I trained her and many other  athletes myself, so save me the lecture.

Quote from: hazzben on July 16, 2025, 11:51:53 AMMeh, the whole "back when football was a man's sport" is simplistic. These athletes aren't sitting around playing Call of Duty in their dorms for most of camp. It's become much more mental and film driven. At top programs every rep of practice gets filmed and then a significant amount of time gets taken breaking that down and teaching from the film. So no, it's not 3 a days like in the 70's or 90's or whatever. But the mental grind is at a whole new level.

Combine that with the fact that off season programs have come light years from what even guys like me were doing in the early 2000's. My son is going into his junior year of HS. It's amazing to me to see the level of strength, speed, and nutrition work he's been doing since 6th/7th grade. We lifted hard in HS and especially in college, but it wasn't nearly as scientific. Go squat and clean and bench, rinse repeat ... college was advanced because we went from 3 lifts a day to 4 lifts a day with agility work mixed in (but still nothing like today's approach). Point being, any good D3 program will have a finely tuned offseason strength and speed program that brings guys into camp already in awesome shape.

Back in the day, a major part of the 2 a days methodology was that you were getting guys into shape during camp. Fast forward, these athletes from HS to D3 to the pro's come into pre-season camp in phenomenal shape. Camp is about taking that the final step, and also doing all the install work that you can't replicate in the offseason.

And to be honest, that level of intentionality with off season programs (plus player commitment) and film work is something that separates the haves from the have not's in D3. I was shocked to hear a decade ago about a perennial Top 10 program that wasn't filming practice under the previous HC and the new HC was shocked to learn how much the other top teams were doing it. They adapted immediately ... The game has evolved.

Redlands was a top 20 program when I was there in the early to mid 90's. We had 150 players in camp every season, and if you were not in shape and ready to go day one, you would find yourself last on the depth chart and on your way out of the program. It was a competitive environment, and 90% of the players came in ready to go.

Every practice was filmed from team to position group. And we had a robust strength and conditioning program back then with two early lifts per week in season, and an off season program that while voluntary (wink wink) in public perception, it was not actually voluntary. It was a spring class called Dynamic Fitness that was specifically designed for the football program, and guess what happened to players who did not take that class.

I say it was a man's sport, because that's exactly what it was. We had full contact in practice just about every day, so the physical challenge was high to go a long with the mental obstacles of doing it day in and out multiple practices a day for weeks.

Today's game is soft as ****. A flag on just about every play and defenses with hands tied behind their backs. That's the undeniable truth and facts!

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Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2025, 03:21:18 PMFinlandia has been closed for a while.
The number of days of practice before depends on when the first day of classes is and is not universally 23 days before.
"Under Maynard" what you describe is what the rules allowed and is basically how all D-III schools operated until the member schools voted in rules that were more appropriate for student-athlete well-being.

So I played D3 around the time that they were starting to make changes. My Frosh and Soph season we were doing 2 and 3-a-days for weeks before the first game. I remember they put some limit on it before my Sr season. Not as limited as it is now but something. I remember feeling like camp was a walk in the park that year. Very different world now.

Same. Coach Maynard was diabolical for training camp when I was there. No soft **** allowed as we were pushed to the brink. Back when football was a man's sport.

Quote from: that guy 31 on July 14, 2025, 05:30:28 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2025, 03:02:46 PMConverting QBs to other positions is quite common.

Just thinking back on this. Josh Herrera (DB), Brenden Barkate (WR), Jared Fink (SS) were all All-SCIAC players at different positions for UR after being recruited as QBs. Jeff Thomas and Danny Ragsdale were HS QBs who became All-Americans at different positions for U of R (Ragsdale obviously moved back to QB for his Jr and Sr seasons and set the world on fire).

Ryan Gocong, who was CMS's all-time leading rusher until Justin Edwards broke his record last year was an option QB in HS. Brad Kertsen was a stud DL for CMS after a very distinguished HS QB career in the state of WA although I'm guessing QB to DL isn't quite as common.

Obviously lots of examples but those were off the top of my head. As someone else said, often in HS you make your best player/best leader/guy who takes it most seriously your QB so it makes sense that those traits can translate into success at other positions.

I played with Ragsdale early in his career at Redlands. Danny Green started at QB for Rags freshman season (1995) and Rino Marconi his sophomore season (1996) when Danny Green got hurt in the season opener. Rags had an injury and missed most of the 1996 season which allowed him get that year back medically.

He moved to WR for the 1997 season and played well (60+ catches) before moving back to QB for the 1998 and 1999 record breaking and Gagliardi trophy winning season.

He's a good dude who I got a long with, but there were quite a few on the team who didn't like him at all due to his ego. I never saw it as a problem, he was just cocky and confident which are traits I want in a QB.

Redlands promotes the hell out of their summer camp schedule. Maybe take some of that effort, and learn from the coaches there, and put a better offensive product on the field. Counting on two easy wins against a terrible La Verne program is not acceptable and things need to change.