Quote from: wally_wabash on October 28, 2025, 01:11:43 PM

Quote from: that guy 31 on October 27, 2025, 05:07:05 PMI think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

I don't think anybody loves it, but the SCIAC has probably made the best of a terrible situation.  Divisions go away next year, so hopefully that's the end of that. 

I agree with this take. I think at the time the SCIAC went to this system they were trying to keep SCIAC football alive while programs were bailing. In that way it accomplished its mission but I think harm was done and it will take time to build back.

Azusa and Whittier coming back is huge and hopefully in a few years we'll all look back and laugh at the division system once we're on the other side of the rebuild.

I think playing so many repeat games is bad for the conference. It's been quite a while since I was a player but if I was being recruited and some schools were playing regular schedules and the others were playing 3 repeat games I feel like that would impact my decision. Just makes it seem small time. Just my opinion

Good for ULV! They've been close and finally broke the door down.

I'm shocked that Claremont was able to run the ball that effectively vs Chapman.

Assuming the tie-breaker is quarters lead in head-to-head, CLU controls their destiny and their game with CMS becomes a big deal. If they can get by the Stags you have to like their chances against a Pomona team that has been decimated by injuries in the 2nd part of the season. Stags also get Redlands the next week so a couple shots at playing spoiler. Bulldogs can't overlook what now seems to be an ascending ULV squad in what has the makings of a trap game.

Chapman has a few weeks to try to get their footing back after not looking particularly impressive in some close victories. Currently not feeling too optimistic about the SCIAC being anything other than a sacrificial lamb in the 1st round of the playoffs.

Quote from: PickSixNick on October 24, 2025, 11:30:38 AMThis is my understanding of the tie breaker. If it is based off the same rules when the sun and surf started, first it is overall SCIAC record. Second, it is head to head. Third, it is quarters led head to head. Fourth, I believe it is quarters led within your pod (I am not 100% sure about this one).

That being said, Cal Lu led all 4 quarters against UR this year. In theory, they would either need to tie or lead at least 1 quarter in their upcoming game against UR.

Below are my SCIAC predictions this week.

UR: 17, CLU: 30
I don't think the tie breakers will matter. I see CLU winning this game comfortably.

CMS: 13, CU: 28
CMS has a good DL, and will need a big game from #44 to stay competitive. I believe CU's OL will be able to move CMS off the ball and have too many weapons at the skill positions for CMS to hang around.

ULV: 21, PP: 24
ULV has looked much better the past couple games and PP's offense has been struggling, but I believe PP has better players and will win a close one.

Thanks for the info PickSix. Bulldogs are going to have to get off to a fast start and keep it going!

On the subject of the stadiums, The Runner in the evening is a great venue. Zinda Field at CMS is super nice in the afternoon. The view from the home stands with the mountains in the background is stunning. It is a great place to see games, especially when the weather starts to cool off.

The Chapman facility is outstanding. I have not been to Cal Lu since they moved into the current facility but have heard really good things about it. Best part about Pomona is the tree behind the goal posts that is very close to being in play. ULV is a pretty little campus and they've done a lot of work since I've been there. I love the brick building behind the north end zone. Are the tents still there?

Not to beat a dead horse here but does anyone know the SCIAC divisional tiebreaker? It has never been used before since they went to this silly intramural system but it is very much on the table this year. If Redlands beats CLU this weekend and they both win their final 2 games (none of that is certain but very possible) they would be tied at 5-2 in the conference. Both would have lost to Chapman and split with each other. How do they break that tie?

I tried to search the SCIAC website for answers but I couldn't find anything. If anyone has contact with a staff or something can they try to get this information. It is a huge difference between playing Chapman for the conference title/playoff berth and playing a throw-away game against Pomona in the cross-over week.

I guess aggregate score in their two games would be the best way but that tends to be more of a soccer thing. Maybe total points against? Score difference against Chapman? Sure would be nice to know. Do they talk about it on flo sports?

Quote from: Dr. Doolittle on October 19, 2025, 11:20:04 AMThree games yesterday in SCIAC and three close games that should have been blow outs.  La Verne made it a game with a week CMS.  Redlands let PP come back and almost pull off a comeback and Chapman should have won by 21.  SCIAC will likely send Chapman to playoff to get smashed in the first round. 

Yeah, it looks like the conference has fallen back to Laverne. They are now able to compete.

Does anyone know the division tie-breaker if Redlands and CLU end up with the same record and split their head-to-head games? Seems like a big deal since one of them will get to play for a playoff spot and the other would be wasting its last week preparing for a meaningless game. CLU could handle business and win it themselves but Redlands is playing much better since the QB switch and I have a feeling they're going to get it done.

Quote from: Kuiper on October 12, 2025, 01:32:40 PMTalk about an early reveal of a team's football schedule!

Whittier is officially on the clock

Thank goodness the conference is done with the Surf and Turf divisional silliness and back to a proper schedule. Glad it helped SCIAC football survive but I feel like that is one of the main reasons the conference is so far down in terms of overall talent.

If I was a player looking at D3's and my choices were schools playing a real schedule and schools crossing over and playing the same teams 3 times I would leave SoCal too.

Just back from Claremont where the Bulldogs were clearly the better team today and the score was closer than the action on the field. Redlands offense looked just fine to me. They have a couple WRs who can play and the QB they played today, Schmidt, was very efficient. He's not a great athlete but he can move around in the pocket. He had a couple really nicely placed corner/slot-fade throws. Their run game needs to improve but they stuck with it and it allowed them to run some clock and opened up some play action.

If anything I would say Redlands was too conservative offensively at times, especially in the 3rd quarter. It was pretty clear that CMS couldn't do much on offense. Every run play CMS called seemed to go backwards. They'd run zone or stretch on 1st down and be in 2nd and 11. Rinse and repeat. Redlands is very solid in the defensive front. I was especially impressed with the OLB Thorn and the FS Ybanez.

CMS can't run the ball. Their WRs are ok but don't create a ton of separation. Their OL got handled pretty well by the Redlands defensive front. The only real chance they had was to hit a deep pass, which is what they did to score their TD. They will need to improve their overall talent level on offense through recruiting. They just don't have enough. I was surprised that Redlands was as effective as they were against the CMS defense. The Stag D kept them in the game but they don't have enough to compensate for their offense right now.

Redlands hosts Pomona and then travels to CLU in the next two weeks. They need to win both to get right back in the mix for a shot at Chapman in the conference title game. Still a lot of football to play but Chapman has to feel pretty good about their chances to win the SCIAC this year.

I'll be at Zinda Field in Claremont on Saturday for Stags vs Bulldogs. This game feels like a big one, even with the teams both sitting at 0-2 in conference play.

A loss for either team would put them at 0-3 and seemingly put the division title out of reach. The winner is still very much in the mix with Cal Lu feeling like a vulnerable front runner. Claremont has been in the thick of things for the last few years so dropping to 0-3 would be a big step back for them. Redlands needs to get it going pretty soon or face a program reset. They haven't been up to their standard for quite a while now. Either way being 3 games out with 4 to play is a pretty not-great place to be so my guess is we'll see some desperation on 6th Street.

CMS will need to have some balance on offense to move it against a stout Bulldog D. Redlands hasn't shown much life on offense at all this year with the exception of the 2nd half in the Pine Bowl.

Should be hard-hitting, low-scoring fun!!

Happy for Cal Lu after a big comeback win! CMS can't run the ball at all so I knew it would be hard for them to hold any leads. They can't get the game under control and they throw it ok but not efficiently enough to close anyone out. This will continue to be a problem for the Stags. Kingsmen in the drivers seat for the division.

71 total yards in a whole college football game and 4 first downs (1 by penalty) for the Bulldogs. That sums it up about as well as any analysis I could provide.

I was at Pomona vs CMS. The rain was pretty bad for much of the game. Neither team is as good as they have been for the past few years.

Pomona lost their QB right before halftime and the guy who finished the game was the 3rd stringer. Pomona has a stud DL in #97 who impacted the game in a major way. He was in the backfield all night and forced the fumble for a TD late. They don't have a RB, the quarterbacks are their run game and they don't get much out of it. Their WRs are down from what they have been. Olsen didn't play and didn't play last week either so he must be hurt. He would make a difference on the outside. Their OL is smaller than they have been the past couple of years. This is much more similar to old school Pomona. They are small, they are super scrappy, they are tough and well coached but not a lot of athletes jump out at you.

CMS can't run the football at all. They tried to run mostly stretch and outside stuff and they couldn't get the corner. They don't get any movement. Really a big departure from the kind of run heavy teams they have had in recent years. They were able to throw it effectively late in the game but it was too little too late. They have a good defense, super well coached and they tackle well but not dominant. The 44 kid is all over the place at LB and they have some secondary guys who can cover. They'll need to get way better on offense if they're going to be anything other than a spoiler.

Redlands meanwhile gained 117 total yards and got thumped by Cal Lu. Great win for the Lutherans who appear to have had quite the defensive reformation. I'll see myself out...

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Quote from: olddog on September 22, 2025, 11:06:08 AMUR last Saturday in the Pine Bowl.

Fun Fact, UR has beaten WW six times in a row now dating back to 2009..forgot about the Selway days...

UR wins by 17, despite spotting WW a touchdown with a fumble.

Week 1 to Week 2, what did I see....Improvement, which is really nice to see, props to coaches and players

Special teams, we cleaned it up....Our punts were clean, good snaps, blocked well etc, our FG group got on the same page, holder has learned how to ask for the ball, blocked it better and the kicker calmed down. Good job

Offense, SCIAC DC's have to be bummed, instead of breaking out the same play cards for the last five years with four sets on them, three patterns, and four running plays...They have to update their UR play list...A lot more work for DCs. I saw nine different base formations, could have been more..Let alone variations off these sets the SCIAC has not seen. I really liked the play calling, the fact is it did not force the qb to do more than he is capable of doing. He did a good job of playing within himself. We have some nice RBs and the OL blocked fairly well. I saw some backers getting blocked and some pulling linemen get to someone. Let hope UR players have bought in and at this point refine what they do. It was nice to see the defense get off the field, we all saw what happens when its not backed up all game.

The defense was solid, this d line we have is big and about as good as I have see in the last 5 years. UR runs a 3-5-3, our inverts are brand new and learning, clearly WW game plan was to attack them. They held up and will get better as the season goes on. Prop to the DC and players giving up 10 points, and a 200 yards game net, we win 95% of the time. WW had no running game with just 6 in the box at times. Tough to win if you are WW and six man box is controlling the run. Young QB struggle with UR d line on his tail all day.

It was one game, lets see if they can duplicate it, if so we all might have under estimated them.

Thanks for the report! Bulldog D has been anywhere from solid to spectacular for the better part of the last 20 years. If the offense can start to pull its weight the Dogs will be back to playing for championships year in and year out. Glad to hear the new OC is off to a good start.

6 straight vs WW is impressive. I know the Pirates had a few down years in there but the 2007 win in the Pine Bowl that started the streak is one of Redlands best wins. That WW team was really good and that win propelled Redlands back into relevance for a long time after a few bad seasons. Maybe this one will do the same!

Don't get me wrong, that was a very good win for Redlands but it's not like they beat a playoff level Whitworth squad. I think the current Whitworth QB will be replaced at some point this season.

CMS pulled a rabbit out of their hat but give some thanks to GFU's coaching staff for being complete dunderheads in running a sweep with 1:20 left on 2nd & 8 with the CMS only having 1 timeout left.  That is malpractice. 

Cat,

I was following the stats and saw the highlight of the long TD. Did you see the whole final sequence? Did Fox have to run plays or could they have kneeled it out?

Quote from: olddog on September 22, 2025, 11:06:08 AMUR last Saturday in the Pine Bowl.

Fun Fact, UR has beaten WW six times in a row now dating back to 2009..forgot about the Selway days...

UR wins by 17, despite spotting WW a touchdown with a fumble.

Week 1 to Week 2, what did I see....Improvement, which is really nice to see, props to coaches and players

Special teams, we cleaned it up....Our punts were clean, good snaps, blocked well etc, our FG group got on the same page, holder has learned how to ask for the ball, blocked it better and the kicker calmed down. Good job

Offense, SCIAC DC's have to be bummed, instead of breaking out the same play cards for the last five years with four sets on them, three patterns, and four running plays...They have to update their UR play list...A lot more work for DCs. I saw nine different base formations, could have been more..Let alone variations off these sets the SCIAC has not seen. I really liked the play calling, the fact is it did not force the qb to do more than he is capable of doing. He did a good job of playing within himself. We have some nice RBs and the OL blocked fairly well. I saw some backers getting blocked and some pulling linemen get to someone. Let hope UR players have bought in and at this point refine what they do. It was nice to see the defense get off the field, we all saw what happens when its not backed up all game.

The defense was solid, this d line we have is big and about as good as I have see in the last 5 years. UR runs a 3-5-3, our inverts are brand new and learning, clearly WW game plan was to attack them. They held up and will get better as the season goes on. Prop to the DC and players giving up 10 points, and a 200 yards game net, we win 95% of the time. WW had no running game with just 6 in the box at times. Tough to win if you are WW and six man box is controlling the run. Young QB struggle with UR d line on his tail all day.

It was one game, lets see if they can duplicate it, if so we all might have under estimated them.

Thanks for the report! Bulldog D has been anywhere from solid to spectacular for the better part of the last 20 years. If the offense can start to pull its weight the Dogs will be back to playing for championships year in and year out. Glad to hear the new OC is off to a good start.

6 straight vs WW is impressive. I know the Pirates had a few down years in there but the 2007 win in the Pine Bowl that started the streak is one of Redlands best wins. That WW team was really good and that win propelled Redlands back into relevance for a long time after a few bad seasons. Maybe this one will do the same!

The video of the CMS winning TD is bananas. While it's a feel good win, the Stags should have some concerns. They only ran the ball for 56 yards while Fox rushed for over 150. Through 2 games the Stags have a total of 87 rushing yards and are gaining an almost unbelievable 1.3 yards per carry. People wondered how they'd replace a generational type player like Justin Edwards and so far they haven't at all. It is basically an actual miracle that they are 2-0. The CMS program resurgance was built on running the ball and playing defense. They are doing one of those things so far through 2 games. If they don't figure out how to do the other one, they're not going to be a factor in the SCIAC race.

I'll be in the house on Saturday for Stags at Pomona, The Battle of Sixth Street. Jonathan Samples would be offended to hear that the Sagehens rushed for just 30 yards against a suddenly good (??) Lewis and Clark. Might be a long night with all the passing at Merritt Field. Hopefully someone kicks a ball into the tree at some point!!

Great win for the Bulldogs at the Pine Bowl! One of their best wins in years.

But what kind of voodoo witchcraft stuff does CMS have going on? A completely unbelievable finish. George Fox must be sick.