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#1
I think Chapman is a very attractive football situation and will certainly conduct a nationwide search where they will have several quality candidates. The school is huge compared to the rest of the conference. The OC location is prime in terms of kids with money, quality of life, and football recruiting base. They are good academically but have always had some wiggle room with football players. Best SCIAC job and it's not really close.

No SCIAC teams recieving even a single vote in the D3 Preseason Top 25. Really a bummer the trajectory the conference has been on for the last 5 years. It felt like in 2019 the SCIAC was prime to break out and become nationally relevant. Chapman had their best ever D3 team, hosted two playoff games and beat Linfield. Redlands beat Linfield that year and made the playoffs as an at-large. Chapman led St Johns 3-0 at the end of the 1st quarter in the 2nd round. Since then:

Oxy killed the program for good
2020 season totally scrapped
Maynard cancelled
Whittier killed for a few years and revived
CLU has been nowhere to be found
Conference has largely been dominated by CMS and Pomona and has not been a factor nationally at all

Maybe APU and Whittier picking up will be the jumpstart we need!!
#2
I played in the late 90s early 2000s and everything at practice was filmed and we watched them in meetings every day. Our fall camps were absurdly difficult, long, and physical. Nothing that happens anywhere now is anything like that and that's probably not a bad thing tbh. The game was also much more physical without rules to protect against things like helmet contact and blindside hits. Those used to get us on the highlight film and now they get you ejected. It's not the same world.

I will also say that our offseasons were kind of a joke. Mostly because they weren't allowed to do much with the rules. We had a fitness class but it was much easier than my HS offseasons were. You were mostly on your own to get offseason work in. Some guys worked really hard, other guys cruised and just showed up in camp. We were good but not as good as we could have been with a consistent offseason. We had no spring ball or anything like that (it was against the rules) but the players would get together and do 7 on 7 and other kind of stuff on our own with no coaches.

From what I know of Redlands they were much more involved in the offseasons back then. The Dynamic Fitness class was basically a football offseason training class meeting up to 4 times per week (at least one day was usually a 6 am type thing) and it was a grind. So I think there was a lot of variability based on where you played.

In summary, I would say that most places are likely doing much more in the offseason now than they were in the early 2000s because the rules allow for much more but fall camp and overall physicality of the game and practice was substantially higher back then.
#3
Quote from: Pat Coleman on July 02, 2025, 03:21:18 PMFinlandia has been closed for a while.
The number of days of practice before depends on when the first day of classes is and is not universally 23 days before.
"Under Maynard" what you describe is what the rules allowed and is basically how all D-III schools operated until the member schools voted in rules that were more appropriate for student-athlete well-being.

So I played D3 around the time that they were starting to make changes. My Frosh and Soph season we were doing 2 and 3-a-days for weeks before the first game. I remember they put some limit on it before my Sr season. Not as limited as it is now but something. I remember feeling like camp was a walk in the park that year. Very different world now.
#4
Quote from: Pat Coleman on June 13, 2025, 03:02:46 PMConverting QBs to other positions is quite common.

Just thinking back on this. Josh Herrera (DB), Brenden Barkate (WR), Jared Fink (SS) were all All-SCIAC players at different positions for UR after being recruited as QBs. Jeff Thomas and Danny Ragsdale were HS QBs who became All-Americans at different positions for U of R (Ragsdale obviously moved back to QB for his Jr and Sr seasons and set the world on fire).

Ryan Gocong, who was CMS's all-time leading rusher until Justin Edwards broke his record last year was an option QB in HS. Brad Kertsen was a stud DL for CMS after a very distinguished HS QB career in the state of WA although I'm guessing QB to DL isn't quite as common.

Obviously lots of examples but those were off the top of my head. As someone else said, often in HS you make your best player/best leader/guy who takes it most seriously your QB so it makes sense that those traits can translate into success at other positions.
#5
Quote from: RFBredux on May 30, 2025, 11:00:34 AMRedlands promotes the hell out of their summer camp schedule. Maybe take some of that effort, and learn from the coaches there, and put a better offensive product on the field. Counting on two easy wins against a terrible La Verne program is not acceptable and things need to change.

I don't know how it works now, but I know in the old days these summer camps were a major source of income, particularly for the assistant coaches. I'm with you, the camp promotion was less off-putting when the team was competing for championships every year.

I know Mariani is pretty open to new ideas and adjustments on defense. I don't know anything about the new OC. What I know of Jim Good does not give me the impression that he has the desire for a lot of professional growth.
#6
Quote from: olddog on June 09, 2025, 11:10:33 AMMany AP former athletes at APU are not happy about this hire. There were past APU alums that are coaching that got passed up. APU has a history of producing coaches. Its crazy to me, I had a conversation with the APU president 11 years ago and they were contemplating going D1, hence the Felix Center etc.

Hazzben, they should have hired someone that knows So Cal, that is where over 50% of his players will come from and recruiting Oregon, Washington and Arizona kids are ones mainly looking to get out to the weather, aka UR's move. I am not saying the guy can't coach, but it may take a year or two more to get where he wants to be. Lastly when you crap on Alum's and the core, you run the risk of financial support...hence UR, ask Jeff Martinez.




I don't know anything about the new APU guy. I wish him well and will be pulling for him, but I have also heard from several people with APU ties that were not happy with the selection. Shocking to me that they didn't pick someone from the APU tree. That program is rich in history and tradition and has produced many successful coaches.

One person who has APU connections and is generally in the know told me the rumor they heard was that APU admin did not want to bring back football but the SCIAC pushed them to as part of entering the conference in other sports. There is some fear that APU admin's heart may not be fully in the reboot. Will be something to keep an eye on going forward.
#7
Few days late on this but Bob Owens is an awesome dude and a fantastic football coach. He had some war daddy teams at Whittier and made Chapman a consistent force in the SCIAC. He's also a really nice guy and super recruiter who genuinely cares about his players.

Pure class. Enjoy your retirement, Coach!
#8
Bulldogs wrapped spring football yesterday. Any reports from the ground in Redlands?
#9
Citrus College is an extremely sweet facility and would be a excellent addition to a conference that already has a few pretty cool stadiums. Hopefully that is the plan.
#10
APU announcement now official on their twitter and school website. Release says they were unanimously approved by the SCIAC presidents

Absolutely huge day for the SCIAC! A conference where football was on the ropes just a short while ago will get Whittier back and add a an Azusa program steeped in tradition

Hopefully this will mean the end of the divisions and double round robin silliness. The SCIAC is back!!
#11
Word going around is that Azusa Pacific is going to drop from D2 to D3, join the SCIAC, and reinstate their football program!

Announcement could come this week, as soon as Monday!
#12
Quote from: RFBredux on March 07, 2025, 12:59:50 PM
Quote from: 10Freeway on March 07, 2025, 10:12:34 AMAgain, secondhand info.  Heard she did not want the position.  Financially she doesn't need it and she didn't want the headache. 

If true, that's a damning indictment of the position and current state of the athletics department.

I know this may be kicking a hornet's nest here but at any point are they going to do anything for Maynard? The guy was the most important person at the University for years and brought unprecedented success. The reason he was forced out looked unbelievably stupid then but in hindsight it's totally laughable.

Maybe he has bad feelings and doesn't want anything to do with them? Maybe they're embarrassed about it? Maybe they think they were right? How do you guys explain the fact that they haven't done anything to try to mend those fences and start to repair the relationship with all of the football alumni and donors that they alienated?

It just feels like the program can't move forward until it at least makes an effort to right that wrong.
#13
Quote from: olddog on March 05, 2025, 01:11:58 PMJuanita College FB record

2022 - 0-10
2023 - 1-9
2024 - 2-8


Well, on the bright side they improved every year!!  8-)
#14
I think it's a strange hire as well but I am hopeful it works out for them. I know a SCIAC assistant who interviewed and is extremely qualified. I also know a few other SCIAC assistants who they should have reached out to. Maybe they did and they weren't interested.

For ULV to succeed they will need to do very well with local SoCal recruiting. ULV is not going to get a bunch of out-of-staters like Claremont and Pomona. We'll have to see if Sanchez has the SoCal high school recruiting ties to make that happen. Obviously he convinced the hiring committee that he does.
#15
Glad you got to see them. Sounded like a bunch of barn burners! I'm interested to see if any of the SCIAC teams can make any noise this year. I saw Claremont a couple times live and I thought they were pretty good.

I can't argue about the feed quality since I watched tons of games over the last few years and 0 this year, but I will take your word for it haha