Quote from: FiredCoachesPod on Yesterday at 01:19:10 PMAs everyone stated, Carroll is not in financial trouble.
Carroll is the oldest institution in Wisconsin.
Just had the largest freshman class in school history.
$52.5 million dollar facilities plan in place. Have you ever looked at the facilities work they have done over the past fifteen years?

Meanwhile, at least five institutions (in the B- or above range) have had public cuts over the past six years! But, let's go off a letter grade by Forbes.

The Forbes grade is not a hot take based on someone's opinion. Its a quantitative model. Carroll had operating deficits in 2023 and 2024 (combined almost $14M) but then swung back with a slight surplus in 2025, which is a good sign. Forbes grades have 9 factors they measure for their grades including: reserve ratio/liquidity, tuition as a % of revenue, assets vs liabilities, operating, etc. Their relatively high dependence on tuition (90%) with low investment income (3-4%) along with the 23/24 deficits are likely what's driving their grade. Forbes may be relying on lagging NCES data and Carrol's 2025 surplus may not have been factored in.

Carroll has definitely improved their balance sheet recentl (growing net assets and low liabilities relative to assets) so I don't see any near term cause for concern. If that trend continues they will be just fine. But you can't run operating deficits very often and be considered healthy. That said, I think Carroll has made some solid adjustments and should be trending stronger.

Agree with the hockey comparison.  I'd like to see 10 v 10 and shorten the field by 10 yards at both ends to manage fatigue.  Yeah, you'd have to re-line the ends but it's more like the soccer you've been watching for 90 minutes instead of something you could go several games without seeing (PKs).

Quote from: MCScots2013 on Yesterday at 02:23:44 PMIs there some sort of federal aid/grant advantage or a difference to the discount rate for schools to go the D2 or NAIA route and give small athletic scholarships?  Seems like they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and, as you allude to, would rather have the prestige of being a scholarship school.  (Sadly, I think that is not working for a lot of D2's in the Southeast.  Several seem to be running into trouble.)

Don't think so. I think it's just a recruiting advantage. I know E&H was pretty clear when they left the ODAC for D2. They looked around, saw tons of D3 schools that were... outcompeting them across the board, and said there is less competition in D2. Off they went. Honestly, they seem to be doing fine in D2, better than they were in the ODAC anyway, where they were pretty much the bottom of the barrel in every sport but football.

But E&H had an absurd reliance on athletes. It was one of those schools with a ridiculous percentage of students played NCAA sports. So they had to do something because that was pretty much all they had going for them. Not much endowment, not much alumni support, not much academic credentials... pretty campus though!

Is there some sort of federal aid/grant advantage or a difference to the discount rate for schools to go the D2 or NAIA route and give small athletic scholarships?  Seems like they are robbing Peter to pay Paul and, as you allude to, would rather have the prestige of being a scholarship school.  (Sadly, I think that is not working for a lot of D2's in the Southeast.  Several seem to be running into trouble.)

As everyone stated, Carroll is not in financial trouble.
Carroll is the oldest institution in Wisconsin.
Just had the largest freshman class in school history.
$52.5 million dollar facilities plan in place. Have you ever looked at the facilities work they have done over the past fifteen years?

Meanwhile, at least five institutions (in the B- or above range) have had public cuts over the past six years! But, let's go off a letter grade by Forbes.

Williams rarely updates its position listings to account for changes, so I'd take nothing whatsoever from the roster designations. 

I'd be absolutely stunned if Johansen, who was the best QB in the league when he got hurt, isn't the starter heading into next season.  McHugh who is likewise an elite athlete I see in more of a wildcat QB / WR type role.  Both have two years of eligibility left, so hopefully at lease one sticks around for an extra season.

Not a comment on D3 or Bowden, but in general I like the 5 in 5 rule if it provides clarity for both schools and athletes.  Between COVID and the complete lawlessness D1 is having currently it'd be great to get back to some clear rules everyone can follow.

Also, I saw there are now 4 D1 recruits that have transferred to Massillon this offseason.  Perpetual free agency from D1 down to high school is just how stuff works now it seems.

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Quote from: FiredCoachesPod on June 24, 2026, 05:43:03 PM

Quote from: USee on June 23, 2026, 10:28:19 PM

Quote from: FiredCoachesPod on June 23, 2026, 11:56:00 AMThe article from Forbes is nothing more than a "we don't have all the facts piece."

What do you base this opinion on? What facts do you have?

Follow along with the links that have been shared.

So you have no facts, just links someone else provided?

Very curious to see how the Ephs QB situation unfolds. Presumably MvHugh's arm/shoulder will be healthy. It doesn't look like he saw any Baseball action this spring but would think this is part of normal recovery time frame for the injury. He's listed as a Senior but does have 2 years of Football eligibility remaining.

Notable that Johansen is listed on current roster as QB......and TE. It will be interesting to see how the situation plays out.

Some may not be aware that the QB coach at Williams is Chris Rorke who is arguably the top QB mentor in the league so the Eph QB room is in very qualified, experienced hands.
 
Always baffled me that Rorke has not landed a HC job somewhere given his resume and reputation. He was a candidate at Bowdoin when they hired JB Wells but have not heard his name mentioned in other HC openings. Williams is lucky to have him.