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What's the outcome of Saturday's MIAC v WIAC showdown?

MIAC Sweep
WIAC Sweep
Split - SJU and UWP advance
Split - UWRF and Bethel advance

hazzben

#110370
MIAC Tier 2 looks a bit better IMO coming out of this weekend. Monmouth didn't look any different from a Carleton, GAC, or Concordia. I'd put Tier 2 just behind Coe and honestly probably similar to Central, the Dutch with a better D but better offenses on the MIAC side. GAC played a competitive game with Whitworth and would have been in the thick of things in a down NWC.

Wheaton looked really good. Passing efficiency, a mobile QB, and really solid Oline play are a pretty good recipe for post-season success. I think they'll beat DePauw and if so that'll make for a fascinating offensive matchup with the winner of UWRF and SJU.

SJU v UWRF ... can't wait to dig into this matchup a bit. Early thoughts before I watch the UWRF's game, which D can tip the scales against an elite scoring O?

Mister36

#110371
I hope the Bethel coaches are emphasizing special teams a bit this week. Slow punts leading to a block and some leaky return coverage will be heavily exploited by better teams. Obviously some of it could have been elements - but truth is they don't have much punting experience this year

CHUBBS PETERSON

Quote from: hazzben on Yesterday at 08:56:04 AMMIAC Tier 2 looks a bit better IMO coming out of this weekend. Monmouth didn't look any different from a Carleton, GAC, or Concordia. I'd put Tier 2 just behind Coe and honestly probably similar to Central, the Dutch with a better D but better offenses on the MIAC side. GAC played a competitive game with Whitworth and would have been in the thick of things in a down NWC.

Wheaton looked really good. Passing efficiency, a mobile QB, and really solid Oline play are a pretty good recipe for post-season success. I think they'll beat DePauw and if so that'll make for a fascinating offensive matchup with the winner of UWRF and SJU.

SJU v UWRF ... can't wait to dig into this matchup a bit. Early thoughts before I watch the UWRF's game, which D can tip the scales against an elite scoring O?
Agree about Wheaton. That said, watching what NCC did to them makes for sobering viewing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmthw2EOzU
Bethel Royals on to victory as we proudly sing your name, HEY HEY HEY!

hazzben

There's a reason NCC had a better than 50% chance to win the Stagg against the entire field  :o  A healthy NCC is still the favorite in this tourney.

gobigred425

UWRF has forced 33 turnovers this year, good for #1 in the country and 3 turnovers per game. If the Johnnies turn it over 3 times, they certainly won't win.

Coincidentally, the one game they lost the turnover battle this year, they took the L. They have also only trailed in the 2nd half of one game, the L. If the Johnnies can go into halftime with the lead, the Falcons will be in full panic mode.

sjujohnnie

Apparently no one's giving St John's a chance whatsoever. I hope the team is aware of that & proves the naysayers wrong!

DuffMan

Quote from: sjujohnnie on Yesterday at 10:30:21 PMApparently no one's giving St John's a chance whatsoever. I hope the team is aware of that & proves the naysayers wrong!

Do you really think the team cares what a handful of aging keyboard warriors thinks?

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

sjujohnnie

Quote from: DuffMan on Today at 08:35:19 AM
Quote from: sjujohnnie on Yesterday at 10:30:21 PMApparently no one's giving St John's a chance whatsoever. I hope the team is aware of that & proves the naysayers wrong!

Do you really think the team cares what a handful of aging keyboard warriors thinks?


Hopefully they don't need any additional motivation, but if they do I'd start there.

CHUBBS PETERSON

Quote from: sjujohnnie on Yesterday at 10:30:21 PMApparently no one's giving St John's a chance whatsoever.

I'd characterize it more as calling UWRF the most formidable opponent SJU has met so far this year, and even through navy tinted goggles I'd not disagree with that assessment. Acknowledging the difficulty of the task ahead and saying it's insurmountable are two different things.

This is also a vestige of the lasting impression Coach Gagliardi (John, sorry) left on his players and fans. He often talked up opponents during the week and then his teams went through said opponents "like ___ through a tin horn" (banger quote from Coach Saban) on Saturday. Austin Murphy mentioned this at least once in his book on SJU.

Bethel Royals on to victory as we proudly sing your name, HEY HEY HEY!

DuffMan

LOL, John was the master of it.  "$hit, these Macalaster guys are good.  They don't just pull guys out of the hallway to play football."

Seriously, though, I think UWRF could be the best team in the nation right now.  Blaha must be about finished with his PhD for how long he's been there.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

gobigred425

Some of the "experts" have SJU as a 12.5 point underdog at UWRF. They also have Bethel as 4 point favorite.

I'll take MIAC moneyline parlay to win, and use the money to pick up the tab for the boys at Sal's on Saturday night.

CHUBBS PETERSON

Quote from: DuffMan on Today at 11:22:57 AM"$hit, these Macalaster guys are good.  They don't just pull guys out of the hallway to play football."

"Uh, Sir? What if I told you that is EXACTLY what they're doing?" ;D
Bethel Royals on to victory as we proudly sing your name, HEY HEY HEY!

DuffMan

Quote from: CHUBBS PETERSON on Today at 11:26:36 AM"Uh, Sir? What if I told you that is EXACTLY what they're doing?" ;D

It seemed like they may have been doing just that, except for Andrew Porter.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

Redtooth

Quote from: DuffMan on Today at 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: CHUBBS PETERSON on Today at 11:26:36 AM"Uh, Sir? What if I told you that is EXACTLY what they're doing?" ;D

It seemed like they may have been doing just that, except for Andrew Porter.


He was their best player in the last 50 years at Mac......

Retired Old Rat

Quote from: Redtooth on Today at 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on Today at 11:55:47 AM
Quote from: CHUBBS PETERSON on Today at 11:26:36 AM"Uh, Sir? What if I told you that is EXACTLY what they're doing?" ;D

It seemed like they may have been doing just that, except for Andrew Porter.


He was their best player in the last 50 years at Mac......
Ron Groce and Elmer Bailey might disagree with that assessment.  Ron Groce* (2011) - Hall of Fame - Macalester College,  Elmer Bailey Pro Football Stats Athletics
   
National Champions: 1963, 1965, 1976, 2003