FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

That's ridiculous. There are no calculated attempts on the part of SIDs, in collaboration with coaching staffs or otherwise, to game the system by disseminating two-deeps that are crafted to deceive opposing coaches.

As Pat said, coaches put together the two-deeps; SIDs merely distribute them. And I'm not saying that there aren't less-than-honest head coaches (as opposed to merely optimistic ones in the case of player injuries) who play fast-and-loose with two-deeps. But SIDs have professional standards to which they are required to adhere -- standards that don't include conspiring to lie to other schools.

[Titan Q]

A couple things...

#1:
The "two deep" in IWU's game notes is created before the first game of the season and isn't updated.  It's a preseason depth chart to give fans/media personnel an idea who the top guys are coming in. It's not meant to be a week-to-week/real time thing...and not billed as such.

Game 1 (Albion): https://s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/sidearm.nextgen.sites/iwusports.com/documents/2026/9/4/01GameNotes26_Albion.pdf

Game 4 (Wheaton): https://www.iwusports.com/documents/2026/9/23/04GameNotes26_Wheaton.pdf

(Just a copy/paste there.)

If you're looking for updates on Dermot Smyth's shoulder situation, that wouldn't be the place to get it.


#2:
IWU Associate AD for Communications and Marketing Katie Gonzales is a really good person, and is really good at her job.  She is deeply respected across the Division III community and is a leader within her peer group.  For example, was named President of the Division III Sports Directors of American (D3SIDA) in June 2025.

Katie doesn't deserve to have her integrity questioned in this forum...or any forum. 

But I guess that is more of the same from long-time chat board clown Mark/AndOne/NextManUp/GusD.

[WUPHF]

IWU Associate AD for Communications and Marketing Katie Gonzales is a really good person, and is really good at her job.  She is deeply respected across the Division III community and is a leader within her peer group.

Possibly the best SID in Division III.

[USee]

SID's are heroes. They do all the work and usually get none of the credit. They often only get noticed when something goes wrong. The amount of information they process every week and disseminate is impressive. Just read the game notes for each contest each week. Every SID in the CCIW does quality work with multiple sports in season at the same time. I have nothing but respect and admiration for every SID.

[CarollFan]

They just mentioned on IWU stream, QB Dermot Smyth will not be playing. HC mentioned he expects him to get healthy and be back.

[CarollFan]

Week 4 CCIW scores:

Wheaton 28 IWU 7
Augie 58 Elmhurst 14
(Augie RB #21 Ben Ludlum 231 rushing yards on 22 attempts, 4 TD's. Augie DB #12 Kaden McShaw 100 yard pick 6. Elmhurst LB #20 Jace Zeffiro had 2 ints including a 99 yard pick 6.)

Millikin 31 NPU 27
Carroll 20 Carthage 0 (Carroll D with back to back shutouts. Today 11 TFL's, 8 sacks, 3 ints.)

https://www.d3football.com/conf/CCIW/2026/standings

Top 25 scores:
#17 CNU 21  #14 Susquehanna 0

11 top 25 teams did not play. The rest of the top 25 teams that did play all won with many blowouts.

[Gregory Sager]

Millikin 31
North Park 27

For the third time this season NPU lost a close game on the road. The Vikings were up by 10 with 9:23 remaining and had the Big Blue pinned back at their own one-yard-line after a great 49-yard Hugo Backing punt. But MU drove 99 yards in 14 plays to score, and then,  with four minutes and change remaining, the Big Blue recovered an onside kick at the MU 44. Again they drove it in for a TD, this one with only 40 seconds left.

[Patrick Coleman]

I should've noticed that error of Mark's regarding who is ultimately responsible for the configuration of a two-deep, Pat, but I let myself get distracted by his colorful metaphor regarding signal flares in fundaments.

There was plenty to pick apart there -- no harm in dividing and conquering.

[Patrick Coleman]

long-time chat board clown Mark/AndOne/NextManUp/GusD.

Oh. I should have figured.

[Patrick Coleman]

The "two deep" in IWU's game notes is created before the first game of the season and isn't updated.  It's a preseason depth chart to give fans/media personnel an idea who the top guys are coming in. It's not meant to be a week-to-week/real time thing...and not billed as such.

Just for the record, this is atypical.

[CarollFan]

Logan Week 5 Projections

Week 5 CCIW games:

Augie +38.1 @ #1 NCC
NPU +50.8 @ #3 Wheaton
Carthage +24 @ IWU
Carroll -18.4 @ Millikin

Elmhurst has a bye.

Week 5, Top 25 matchups:
New top 25: https://www.d3football.com/top25/2026/week4

#2 UWRF -2.5 @ #6 UWW
#7 Bethel -.3 @ #5 St. John's
#8 JCU -4.4 @ #18 WashU
#16 Berry +11.1 @ #10 Trinity (Texas)
#17 Cortland -2.5 @ #22 Utica

[Jbothe]

Great D3 Saturday coming up.

I watched Illinois Wesleyan vs Wheaton. Wheaton is a very good team but not dominant.

Wesleyan did all they could to hang on and keep it competitive. If they had to play their backup QB again they would be fine against everyone else on their schedule other than North Central.

Smyth does open up the running game though. They missed that. I think they rushed for 11 yards. They had to throw 56 times on Saturday.

[Gregory Sager]

The "two deep" in IWU's game notes is created before the first game of the season and isn't updated.  It's a preseason depth chart to give fans/media personnel an idea who the top guys are coming in. It's not meant to be a week-to-week/real time thing...and not billed as such.

Just for the record, this is atypical.

You have a much better grasp of sports information policies across the breadth of D3 football than I do, Pat, so tell me: How many other programs have a fixed, one-edition-only version of a two-deep? And if there are others, which schools are they?

AFAIK, Illinois Wesleyan is the only CCIW football program that uses this static two-deep model.

[CarollFan]

Great D3 Saturday coming up.

I watched Illinois Wesleyan vs Wheaton. Wheaton is a very good team but not dominant.

Wesleyan did all they could to hang on and keep it competitive. If they had to play their backup QB again they would be fine against everyone else on their schedule other than North Central.

Smyth does open up the running game though. They missed that. I think they rushed for 11 yards. They had to throw 56 times on Saturday.

Yes IWU D looking better this year. I tell you what if the backup starts against Carroll in 2 weeks, I would love to see him try 56 attempts. 

[Patrick Coleman]

It's the only one I've heard of.

Not how it was done at IWU last year. Click for larger size.