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Etchglow

Quote from: Mavchamp on November 22, 2025, 04:09:59 PMChristmas wish list.....

ASC recruits two-three schools to join the conference in the off-season

Wayland Baptist
Louisiana Christian
Sul Ross State
Nelson University
Centenary





I don't think Louisiana Christian will come back.  They just won 1/3 of the conference championship over in the sooner athletic conference. 

Holy cow, just looked at Sul Ross's football record... 0-11, only two close games, 3 point loss to a 2-9 team and a 6 point loss to a 3-8 team.  Outside of those two losses, average margin of victory was 58 2/3 points...  48.8 points total.  Outscored 129 to 666 :O...

crufootball

Quote from: Etchglow on November 22, 2025, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Mavchamp on November 22, 2025, 04:09:59 PMChristmas wish list.....

ASC recruits two-three schools to join the conference in the off-season

Wayland Baptist
Louisiana Christian
Sul Ross State
Nelson University
Centenary





I don't think Louisiana Christian will come back.  They just won 1/3 of the conference championship over in the sooner athletic conference. 

Holy cow, just looked at Sul Ross's football record... 0-11, only two close games, 3 point loss to a 2-9 team and a 6 point loss to a 3-8 team.  Outside of those two losses, average margin of victory was 58 2/3 points...  48.8 points total.  Outscored 129 to 666 :O...

What did LC win besides football? No matter what, yeah I can't see them coming back considering they did share the title in the SAC but still got crushed by HSU.

As for Sul Ross, I would assume playing at UTRGV and at SFA paid for the rest of the season so while it was a hard season, it is the life of a low tier D2 team.

Etchglow

Quote from: crufootball on November 22, 2025, 09:54:31 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 22, 2025, 07:53:30 PM
Quote from: Mavchamp on November 22, 2025, 04:09:59 PMChristmas wish list.....

ASC recruits two-three schools to join the conference in the off-season

Wayland Baptist
Louisiana Christian
Sul Ross State
Nelson University
Centenary





I don't think Louisiana Christian will come back.  They just won 1/3 of the conference championship over in the sooner athletic conference. 

Holy cow, just looked at Sul Ross's football record... 0-11, only two close games, 3 point loss to a 2-9 team and a 6 point loss to a 3-8 team.  Outside of those two losses, average margin of victory was 58 2/3 points...  48.8 points total.  Outscored 129 to 666 :O...

What did LC win besides football? No matter what, yeah I can't see them coming back considering they did share the title in the SAC but still got crushed by HSU.

As for Sul Ross, I would assume playing at UTRGV and at SFA paid for the rest of the season so while it was a hard season, it is the life of a low tier D2 team.

Wow, LC is down to only 5 sports for me and 5 sports for women.

Pat Coleman

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Ralph Turner

I doubt that Centenary would jump. Centenary is competitive in most of the other sports, especially baseball.

Louisiana (College) Christian University is having too much success and with an easier travel budget in the Red River AC.

Sul Ross State won't come back.

IMHO, the only chance the ASC might have is for Wayland Baptist and Nelson, the former SWAGU, to switch. You would make HPU and Wayland travel partners and Nelson is nicely located in Waxahachie (southern DFW area for non-Texans, and phonetically Wahk'-sah-HATCH-ee).

Crubacker

Hated to see Morris enter the portal, he was important piece on defense and JJ Davis.  Now, when these guys enter the portal, if they have no takers, can they come back to the their previous school?

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Crubacker on November 23, 2025, 02:56:51 PMHated to see Morris enter the portal, he was important piece on defense and JJ Davis.  Now, when these guys enter the portal, if they have no takers, can they come back to the their previous school?

Absolutely.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

Mavchamp

Quote from: Ralph Turner on November 23, 2025, 02:12:14 PMI doubt that Centenary would jump. Centenary is competitive in most of the other sports, especially baseball.

Louisiana (College) Christian University is having too much success and with an easier travel budget in the Red River AC.

Sul Ross State won't come back.

IMHO, the only chance the ASC might have is for Wayland Baptist and Nelson, the former SWAGU, to switch. You would make HPU and Wayland travel partners and Nelson is nicely located in Waxahachie (southern DFW area for non-Texans, and phonetically Wahk'-sah-HATCH-ee).

You would think Wayland would like to be with their "Baptist Brethern".  No doubt the travel would be kinder to them. 

Maybe they don't want to take the UMHB and HSU beatdowns..... but it looks like they are taking plenty of beat downs in the SAC.


Etchglow

Since I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.

CruFrenzy

Quote from: Etchglow on November 23, 2025, 09:39:40 PMSince I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.


Yup. Some of the guys I'm not mad at. The JV guys that saw the writing on the wall and just want to play somewhere, no problem. Then you have a guy like D Morris who likely lands on a good FCS or a low end FBS roster, I still don't like it but it's somewhat understandable. JJ Davis probably lands on a mid to low end FCS... I kind of get it but still think it's a mistake. Then you have guys like Battle III that had no business transferring out. Could have stayed and been a damn good corner on a really good defense but instead he jumped on the portal wagon after D Mo and JJ did and he's got no offers. Not saying he's not good enough to get offers but he doesn't have the same body of work yet as Morris or Davis did.. reminds me a lot of Dorien Hill playing 4 games last year in the playoffs and hitting the portal. He showed a ton of promise and might've been our best LB if he had returned this season but instead he hit the portal and got East Central and Trinity and went to Trinity.. that's basically Battle this year... maybe he will come back.

On the positive side of things it looks like we've kept everyone else so far. If that's all we lose we return a way more cohesive group than we have in a few years and will just need to find a few secondary guys to step up.
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Quote from: CruFrenzy on Yesterday at 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 23, 2025, 09:39:40 PMSince I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.


Yup. Some of the guys I'm not mad at. The JV guys that saw the writing on the wall and just want to play somewhere, no problem. Then you have a guy like D Morris who likely lands on a good FCS or a low end FBS roster, I still don't like it but it's somewhat understandable. JJ Davis probably lands on a mid to low end FCS... I kind of get it but still think it's a mistake. Then you have guys like Battle III that had no business transferring out. Could have stayed and been a damn good corner on a really good defense but instead he jumped on the portal wagon after D Mo and JJ did and he's got no offers. Not saying he's not good enough to get offers but he doesn't have the same body of work yet as Morris or Davis did.. reminds me a lot of Dorien Hill playing 4 games last year in the playoffs and hitting the portal. He showed a ton of promise and might've been our best LB if he had returned this season but instead he hit the portal and got East Central and Trinity and went to Trinity.. that's basically Battle this year... maybe he will come back.

On the positive side of things it looks like we've kept everyone else so far. If that's all we lose we return a way more cohesive group than we have in a few years and will just need to find a few secondary guys to step up.

You got BJ Stewart, we got Dorien Hill.  Both fine athletes who found better fits.

Etchglow

Quote from: D3Navy on Yesterday at 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: CruFrenzy on Yesterday at 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 23, 2025, 09:39:40 PMSince I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.


Yup. Some of the guys I'm not mad at. The JV guys that saw the writing on the wall and just want to play somewhere, no problem. Then you have a guy like D Morris who likely lands on a good FCS or a low end FBS roster, I still don't like it but it's somewhat understandable. JJ Davis probably lands on a mid to low end FCS... I kind of get it but still think it's a mistake. Then you have guys like Battle III that had no business transferring out. Could have stayed and been a damn good corner on a really good defense but instead he jumped on the portal wagon after D Mo and JJ did and he's got no offers. Not saying he's not good enough to get offers but he doesn't have the same body of work yet as Morris or Davis did.. reminds me a lot of Dorien Hill playing 4 games last year in the playoffs and hitting the portal. He showed a ton of promise and might've been our best LB if he had returned this season but instead he hit the portal and got East Central and Trinity and went to Trinity.. that's basically Battle this year... maybe he will come back.

On the positive side of things it looks like we've kept everyone else so far. If that's all we lose we return a way more cohesive group than we have in a few years and will just need to find a few secondary guys to step up.

You got BJ Stewart, we got Dorien Hill.  Both fine athletes who found better fits.

I joke that we made a good trade lol!

Crubacker

If Dorien transferred due to distance, he wasn't saving much time, maybe 5-10 minutes tops.  Had to be other reasons he left.  He would have no doubt been a starter this year for UMHB.

crufootball

Quote from: D3Navy on Yesterday at 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: CruFrenzy on Yesterday at 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 23, 2025, 09:39:40 PMSince I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.


Yup. Some of the guys I'm not mad at. The JV guys that saw the writing on the wall and just want to play somewhere, no problem. Then you have a guy like D Morris who likely lands on a good FCS or a low end FBS roster, I still don't like it but it's somewhat understandable. JJ Davis probably lands on a mid to low end FCS... I kind of get it but still think it's a mistake. Then you have guys like Battle III that had no business transferring out. Could have stayed and been a damn good corner on a really good defense but instead he jumped on the portal wagon after D Mo and JJ did and he's got no offers. Not saying he's not good enough to get offers but he doesn't have the same body of work yet as Morris or Davis did.. reminds me a lot of Dorien Hill playing 4 games last year in the playoffs and hitting the portal. He showed a ton of promise and might've been our best LB if he had returned this season but instead he hit the portal and got East Central and Trinity and went to Trinity.. that's basically Battle this year... maybe he will come back.

On the positive side of things it looks like we've kept everyone else so far. If that's all we lose we return a way more cohesive group than we have in a few years and will just need to find a few secondary guys to step up.

You got BJ Stewart, we got Dorien Hill.  Both fine athletes who found better fits.

Well I can't speak for everyone but I hope Dorien has a great game this weekend.  ;D

Etchglow

Quote from: crufootball on Today at 08:34:11 AM
Quote from: D3Navy on Yesterday at 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: CruFrenzy on Yesterday at 12:59:27 PM
Quote from: Etchglow on November 23, 2025, 09:39:40 PMSince I was bored, I went and looked at the folks who have announced they were transferring from UMHB.  Only 9 of the 29 have offers.  7 of the offers are D3, 3 are NAIA, 2 are FCS, and 1 is for a community college.


Yup. Some of the guys I'm not mad at. The JV guys that saw the writing on the wall and just want to play somewhere, no problem. Then you have a guy like D Morris who likely lands on a good FCS or a low end FBS roster, I still don't like it but it's somewhat understandable. JJ Davis probably lands on a mid to low end FCS... I kind of get it but still think it's a mistake. Then you have guys like Battle III that had no business transferring out. Could have stayed and been a damn good corner on a really good defense but instead he jumped on the portal wagon after D Mo and JJ did and he's got no offers. Not saying he's not good enough to get offers but he doesn't have the same body of work yet as Morris or Davis did.. reminds me a lot of Dorien Hill playing 4 games last year in the playoffs and hitting the portal. He showed a ton of promise and might've been our best LB if he had returned this season but instead he hit the portal and got East Central and Trinity and went to Trinity.. that's basically Battle this year... maybe he will come back.

On the positive side of things it looks like we've kept everyone else so far. If that's all we lose we return a way more cohesive group than we have in a few years and will just need to find a few secondary guys to step up.

You got BJ Stewart, we got Dorien Hill.  Both fine athletes who found better fits.

Well I can't speak for everyone but I hope Dorien has a great game this weekend.  ;D

Event if Dorien wasn't down there, I'd be rooting for Trinity this weekend :D