2025 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

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Quote from: stlawus on July 19, 2025, 06:41:39 PMI actually thought about referencing Stern in my post lol.  I thought his first contract at sirius was some of his best years, but it was when he went to 3 days a week is when it really cratered.  Someone said "these reduced hours have led to some reduced listening", and that's basically how it's going to be with FLoSports now.

Yeah, hopefully he only got better, but I was not going to pay for satellite radio and I was a huge Stern fan. Plus now he just seems to go on an apology tour. Putting D3 sports behind payways makes it even more irrelevant imo

Hopkins92

I will just reiterate what I posted the other day, but put a finer point on this: The vast majority of D3 sports are free to attend in person. I understand a lot of folks aren't within striking distance of their alma mater or even where their kid is attending a D3 school.

But the value prop here is completely out of line with what you are getting for your money. At least with Sirius and their paywall, you are getting a pretty wide range of channels.

Kuiper

Quote from: Hopkins92 on July 21, 2025, 03:21:17 PMI will just reiterate what I posted the other day, but put a finer point on this: The vast majority of D3 sports are free to attend in person. I understand a lot of folks aren't within striking distance of their alma mater or even where their kid is attending a D3 school.

But the value prop here is completely out of line with what you are getting for your money. At least with Sirius and their paywall, you are getting a pretty wide range of channels.

I'm pretty sure this is a feature, not a bug, in the FloSports business model.  They are charging a premium price for products for which the demand is highly inelastic.  I think I read a quote from the founder that made this point.  In the case of FloCollege, that is because parents or alums aren't choosing which DIII or college soccer games to watch based upon price.  You can do ESPN+ and watch whatever college soccer game happens to be on or you can subscribe to some mainstream network and watch whatever sports they show.  Flo Subscribers, by contrast, want to see a specific game/sport - the one their kid's or alma mater's game is on - and there is no substitute for their service.  In the case of the other sports in the FloSports network (which you get access to with a subscription even if it's through your school or conference), they are choosing to air sports like track and field (Diamond League, Penn Relays), wrestling, lacrosse, field hockey, rugby or other niche sports, where there is a small, but dedicated, following in the U.S. and the economics don't pencil out at the price points more mainstream services offer.  People aren't choosing to watch those because those happen to be the sports their affordable cable package or streaming service shows; they're seeking out the only service that offers those particular sports.  I don't know if it's profitable, but their target audiences are probably pretty loyal.

By the way, from my tour through websites for schedules and rosters, I've noticed a decent number of D3 schools that at least advertise that they charge for tickets.  I see it more for football and basketball, but it exists for men's soccer too in places.  It's not the standard as far as I can tell, but it's more common than I expected.  Here are a sample (prices are for soccer):

North Park ($10)
Calvin ($7)
Kalamazoo ($8)
Rowan ($5)
Central ($8)
TCNJ ($5)
Montclair State ($6)
Shenandoah ($6)
Arcadia ($5)




Kuiper

A recruiting service posted a "Top 40" ranking of D3 men's soccer teams. It's purely to get clicks.  They didn't even get to 40 because they skipped #9.  Plus, it has some silly schools on it (Mitchell? Willamette?, Dubuque?) Nevertheless, it's the dog days of summer, so have at it

Here are the top "ten" (actually 9), which at least are programs that have had success recently

1. St. Olaf
2. Amherst
3. Stevens
4. Washington & Lee
5. Cortland
6. Franklin & Marshall
7. Connecticut College
8. Johns Hopkins
10. Williams


Ron Boerger

Quote from: Kuiper on July 25, 2025, 03:04:56 PMA recruiting service posted a "Top 40" ranking of D3 men's soccer teams. It's purely to get clicks.  They didn't even get to 40 because they skipped #9.  Plus, it has some silly schools on it (Mitchell? Willamette?, Dubuque?) Nevertheless, it's the dog days of summer, so have at it

Here are the top "ten" (actually 9), which at least are programs that have had success recently

1. St. Olaf
2. Amherst
3. Stevens
4. Washington & Lee
5. Cortland
6. Franklin & Marshall
7. Connecticut College
8. Johns Hopkins
10. Williams



I like Colorado College getting ranked twice - did not know their reserve team would be in the top 40 too

And check out #19:  BOWDOYI MARGAT

Dark Knight

Quote from: Ron Boerger on July 25, 2025, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: Kuiper on July 25, 2025, 03:04:56 PMA recruiting service posted a "Top 40" ranking of D3 men's soccer teams. It's purely to get clicks.  They didn't even get to 40 because they skipped #9.  Plus, it has some silly schools on it (Mitchell? Willamette?, Dubuque?) Nevertheless, it's the dog days of summer, so have at it

Here are the top "ten" (actually 9), which at least are programs that have had success recently

1. St. Olaf
2. Amherst
3. Stevens
4. Washington & Lee
5. Cortland
6. Franklin & Marshall
7. Connecticut College
8. Johns Hopkins
10. Williams



I like Colorado College getting ranked twice - did not know their reserve team would be in the top 40 too

And check out #19:  BOWDOYI MARGAT

AI generated, as is much of the web these days. And not high quality even for that.

Ron Boerger

#21
The post has apparently since been removed. 

Edit:  the entire IG account for "thetalentrecruiters", with its 41.3K followers, is gone (https://www.instagram.com/thetalentrecruiters/).  Their website (www.thetalentrecruiter.com) is still up, for what it's worth.

EnmoreCat

I saw a similar thing for D2 which had Alderson-Broaddus, which has closed.

Kuiper

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Quote from: Ron Boerger on July 26, 2025, 07:55:08 AMThe post has apparently since been removed. 

Edit:  the entire IG account for "thetalentrecruiters", with its 41.3K followers, is gone (https://www.instagram.com/thetalentrecruiters/).  Their website (www.thetalentrecruiter.com) is still up, for what it's worth.

Sorry for clogging the board with this nonsense.  I thought it was silly from the start, but apparently it was even sillier than I thought.  Still, you know some parents/recruits saw it before it was removed and believe it as gospel

Ejay

It just popped up in my feed today, so it's not gone.