FB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[Whitecarrera]

Dr - that is a perfect example, as this Twitter post confirms. And if you look at the pictures you'll see two sets of hash marks (pic 1) and adjustable goalposts (pic 2).

https://x.com/ohiostadiums/status/690325494827474945?s=46&t=57Idl2kdBt4XRffKcNPGpA

[D3 Poster]

Tough day for JCU vs JH.  More freshmen getting playing time for the Blue Streaks than I expected.  Impressed with starting a freshman center, future will be bright for him.  Saturday was a big day of learning!

[Crawford]

Maybe I'm just a bit of a purist, but my suggestion is that if a field would not be approved/suitable to start a game, then it shouldn't somehow become suitable to finish the game.

Pat's Hickory reference seems a little off to me. When measuring the court in Hinkle, the lane was the  exact same length; the rim the exact same height. Wasn't that the point of the scene? Not the case with HS posts and markings.

Can you imagine a potential game winning field goal ricocheting through after bouncing off a HS post, or a doink rejection from an NFL post?

If both teams agree to play on the field, what difference does it make?  I could see a field goal kicker setting an NCAA a record in a wider goal causing some issues, but that is it.

[Crawford]

Wabash was tied for 38 in the latest poll! Seems like the first time Wabash got votes in a long time, not that we deserved them before.

Wabash was among the others receiving votes -- you can't be tied for 38 in a Top 25.

I concede your point Pat.  But it's fun to think outside the box.

[Crawford]

Looks like Oberlin is dressing 27 players for the John Carroll game.  😳

[Crawford]

Dr - that is a perfect example, as this Twitter post confirms. And if you look at the pictures you'll see two sets of hash marks (pic 1) and adjustable goalposts (pic 2).

https://x.com/ohiostadiums/status/690325494827474945?s=46&t=57Idl2kdBt4XRffKcNPGpA

Whitecarrera, Did you see both teams and the NCAC officials allowed the Oberlin / John Carroll game to have 12 minute quarters instead of 15 minutes?  Perfect example if both teams agree to a slight change from the normal NCAA regulations, it is fine.  The shorter game potentially hurt John Carroll players from making more yardage or setting records, and thus not getting potential awards or recognition.  But the shorter game was for player safety, so a good move.

[CollegeGolf18]

Just finished watching the Wabash/Wooster game.

Wabash defense is pretty solid. Lots of slipping on the field today by both teams. Is it new turf or recently new?

[Whitecarrera]

Crawford - I did not see that, but it makes sense. It's also a situation that is specifically addressed and allowed in the NCAA rulebook. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know what Wabash did last week is neither addressed nor allowed anywhere in the rule book.

I said early on that I'm happy to agree to disagree, but when folks keeps citing situations that are just not the same, I'm going to respond.

[Crawford]

Crawford - I did not see that, but it makes sense. It's also a situation that is specifically addressed and allowed in the NCAA rulebook. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know what Wabash did last week is neither addressed nor allowed anywhere in the rule book.

I said early on that I'm happy to agree to disagree, but when folks keeps citing situations that are just not the same, I'm going to respond.

You can respond all you want.  It just seems you are making an issue where no one other than you seems to care.  As I've mentioned several time, both teams agreed to the change of venue.  So there is no issue.  Imagine if the Case Western players had had to drive back to Cleveland because it got too dark to play. That would have been two games in a row (20% of their season) that they didn't get to finish a game.

[Crawford]

Watched the first half of the Wittenberg / Ohio Wesleyan game.  What happened to Ohio Wesleyan?  They looked terrible.  No one covered a 35 yard kick off, blown coverages and a porous defense line. OWU seemed to be turning their program around the last few years.  Was this just a really bad showing, or has something happened with the program?  Nice win for Wittenberg.

[Whitecarrera]

Crawford - again, happy to have differing opinions, but you can't cite something that's specifically allowed in the rulebook to justify something that isn't.

[Crawford]

Crawford - again, happy to have differing opinions, but you can't cite something that's specifically allowed in the rulebook to justify something that isn't.

Is it in the rule book that two schools can decide to declare the game a tie, even if the game is not over and one team had the lead?  Seriously. Is there a rule that allows that? I suspect there are many example of things that happen in games that are not in the rule books.  Anyone else have any example?

[Crawford]

Crawford - again, happy to have differing opinions, but you can't cite something that's specifically allowed in the rulebook to justify something that isn't.

I know you can't trust Ai for everything but I just looked up if an NCAA game must be played on an NCAA approved field :

NCAA football game can be legally played on a high school field, as the NCAA does not mandate that all games must take place on an official NCAA-branded facility. The primary requirements are that the field meets safety and regulatory standards, and the school or host institution agrees to the use of their facility.

Also asked if Wabash College violated any NCAA rules by moving the game and got this:

No, Wabash College did not violate NCAA rules by moving its football game to a high school field; the change was due to weather and the host stadium's lack of lights, making it a necessary response to an unusual circumstance to allow the game to continue. The relocation to Crawfordsville High School was a practical solution to continue the game after multiple lightning delays and to avoid playing in the dark.

[Crawford]

Hey Pat, Wabash moved up to #33 in my fictitious poll! 😉

[JCUStreaks70]

Dr - that is a perfect example, as this Twitter post confirms. And if you look at the pictures you'll see two sets of hash marks (pic 1) and adjustable goalposts (pic 2).

https://x.com/ohiostadiums/status/690325494827474945?s=46&t=57Idl2kdBt4XRffKcNPGpA

Whitecarrera, Did you see both teams and the NCAC officials allowed the Oberlin / John Carroll game to have 12 minute quarters instead of 15 minutes?  Perfect example if both teams agree to a slight change from the normal NCAA regulations, it is fine.  The shorter game potentially hurt John Carroll players from making more yardage or setting records, and thus not getting potential awards or recognition.  But the shorter game was for player safety, so a good move.

The announcers stated that all NCAC coaches agreed that their games against Oberlin would be 12 min quarters.. I cannot confirm that is the case, but guess we'll see with each game for Oberlin moving forward? Either way, as a new member to the conference, I cannot help but wonder how long will Oberlin field a team? Is there a world where they drop football outright? Obviously one big reason schools have been fielding, or adding, football was for the enrollment boost; but with Oberlin being a school that has no worries of closing while only fielding 30 plus players, it does not seem that they need football? Just curious as the Newb to the NCAC