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wally_wabash

I would absolutely love to see the fish stringer come back out. 
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WabashBob

Wabash announces coaching hires. Coach Fendley is a great guy, don't know the others. Welcome!

https://sports.wabash.edu/news/2026/1/20/wabash-adds-three-to-football-coaching-staff.aspx
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wally_wabash

We've got a segment in today's new ATN pod with WashU head coach Aaron Keen.  Should be a nice listen for those who want to get acquainted with the NCAC's newest football affiliate.
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DePauwalum05

Blackstock Stadium and Performance Center plans look stunning.  Best football stadium in D3?

(scroll to bottom for renderings)
https://www.depauw.edu/about/capital-projects/blackstock-stadium-and-performance-center/

maripp2002

Quote from: DePauwalum05 on April 20, 2026, 04:06:09 PMBest football stadium in D3?

A nice stadium, maybe even top 10 - sure. But let's be honest, probably nothing will touch UMHB crusader stadium and for good reason. I don't think it's even close, and I'm not just saying that as a Wally, I'm just saying that as someone with eyes.

https://youtu.be/3Mnlec3ouOA
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Patrick Coleman

Agreed, probably top 10, and DePauwalum05, gotta be a little less out of touch. UHMB's stadium is better than everything else in D3 and just about everything in D2.
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DePauwalum05

Quote from: Patrick Coleman on April 21, 2026, 02:25:13 PMAgreed, probably top 10, and DePauwalum05, gotta be a little less out of touch. UHMB's stadium is better than everything else in D3 and just about everything in D2.

Geesh, Pat. Sorry to pose a question on a silent discussion board.  Will let it return to silence

maripp2002

To be clear, everyone at DPU and anyone visiting should be very excited to play in a lovely new stadium. Definitely an upgrade over the existing Blackstock.

I'd argue that across the board, the NCAC has some of the best facilities per capita, and this will definitely up the ante. I know the NESCAC throws a ton of resources at their athletics and their facilities reflect that. The liberty league has some nice stadiums too. I really enjoy watching Union home games as they have an interesting setup (at least across the field). All of the WIAC stadiums I've been to are quite large, but, imo, nice but not competing for best facilities.   

My point wasn't to demean Depauw's setup, just to say that UMHB threw a TON of money at their stadium, and as a consequence, it's just above and beyond what everyone else has. Thankfully, in the NCAC we ALSO remember to throw $$ at academics too.  :) So we can always celebrate that.

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Patrick Coleman

Quote from: DePauwalum05 on April 21, 2026, 07:55:49 PM
Quote from: Patrick Coleman on April 21, 2026, 02:25:13 PMAgreed, probably top 10, and DePauwalum05, gotta be a little less out of touch. UHMB's stadium is better than everything else in D3 and just about everything in D2.

Geesh, Pat. Sorry to pose a question on a silent discussion board.  Will let it return to silence

I think you know full well there was a way to do that without the hyperbole -- I was glad that someone else called it out before I did.
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Jbothe

WIAC stadiums and facilities are ridiculously good.

I'm not sure facilities at the D3 level are as big of a deal in recruiting as other levels.

AndrewB

Quote from: Jbothe on May 31, 2026, 11:31:25 AMWIAC stadiums and facilities are ridiculously good.

I'm not sure facilities at the D3 level are as big of a deal in recruiting as other levels.

If you look at recent history, facilities play a huge part in recruiting.  There's a reason UW-Whitewater won 6 titles. (Biggest stadium) & Amazing locker room. SUNY Cortland A+ facilities.  UMHB as Pat said, best stadium in D3.  UWRF new $60 million dollar improvements. The elite players want to feel as though they are D1 players.  Now the arms race is getting out of hand.  UWEC with a 100 million plus facility along with DePauw. 

Jbothe

The coaches have made the biggest difference. Lance at UW-Whitewater. Coach Fred at UMHB. Thorne family at North Central.

I agree though that facilities get recruits to campus.

I also really worry about the spending on facilities at the D3 level. Enrollments have dropped and fewer kids entering the pipeline for colleges in the near future.

Not a month goes by without hearing about a D3 college or the financial brink.


maripp2002

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https://www.news-herald.com/2026/06/09/john-carroll-to-add-tyler-green-a-record-setting-qb-from-denison/ 

Does anyone else hate this as much as I do? I mean, I get this is how it works now, and I'm not mad at him or JCU. But to me an inter-conference transfer in D3, and maybe especially in the NCAC just feels - gross.

I don't know what I was expecting. Teams want to win, but I think maybe I was just hoping that the schools in the NCAC would try to prioritize helping athletes graduate as efficiently as possible and not poach student athletes. If someone had said that he was transferring OUT of conference I wouldn't bat an eye-lash, but in conference is just no bueno. It just feels like something you read about at the D1 level, and not where no one is "getting paid".

I wish both him and his new school success (but not too much obviously, a few nice 3rd places finishes would be about perfect) but also I just don't like anything about it. I still also struggle with the fact that the NCAC is a far less level playing field than it was in recent years, with both Wash U and JCU having hearty graduate schools (yes, Wittenberg has one, but they need all the help they can get with enrollment it seems) - and there being no prohibition on redshirts coming in from other divisions, and the whole 5 years thing the government seems to be proposing.

Also, FWIW, I would feel this way about any inter-conference transfer - hell if Wabash suddenly started poaching players I wouldn't like it either, and I would be issuing some strongly worded emails and making some phone calls. The fact that it's JCU bugs me, I think just because they least fit the profile of other NCAC schools, and also because they're our newest full time member. The fact is, the teams inside of the NCAC are far more similar than they are different and it feels like poaching COULD be a huge thing but it never has been, and now it's a thing (I feel a bit like Mugatu there).

Anyway, I'm wondering if I'm totally off base with the yuck of this, or others are feeling similar.
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