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The Third Division

This also leads me to believe that UMHB is gonna continue playing whitewater until whitewater says no.

Ron Boerger

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Quote from: UMHB03 on February 15, 2026, 10:17:34 AM
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 14, 2026, 08:35:05 PMSadly, a 2-yr series with SRSU might be better than Keystone.
If they dropped back down to D3 they might be, but we need any opponent we can get from our own division. Being forced to play 3 non-division opponents kept us out of the playoffs last year, and we have to find even more non-conference opponents in 2026 now that we presumably aren't playing a round robin.

I'd love it if the arrogant, clueless fans of schools from regions that have plenty of neighboring programs to schedule could explain what their solution would be. Instead they just stand on their soapbox, looking down their noses and criticizing while failing to give any better suggestions.
^^^ all of this.

Keystone is making strides after they were told they were going to lose accreditation, were required to come up with teach out plans, and couldn't even do any kind of recruiting in 2024 into early 2025.  A lot of players left after that fall as a result.  They then were told at the end of February 2025 "never mind, we're not going to do that" and only had a few months to put together a team.  They added 41 freshmen in that time and played a JV schedule.  If they can keep most of those guys and recruit that well again for the upcoming season they should be on their way back to playing in the Landmark as a regular member the following season.  It takes a lot of balls to put a UMHB on the schedule for two years given that situation and I salute them for doing it ... payday or not.

IC798891

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Quote from: UMHB03 on February 14, 2026, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on February 14, 2026, 01:15:30 PMUMHB's two year scheduling agreement with Keystone screams desperation. It is not a good look for the program.
Go ahead and list the teams who are interested in scheduling a series with us. Then we can discuss which ones would be better options.

One would think the Division 3 philosophy is grounded in conference and regional competition rather than national and most schools are interested in scheduling as such.

Oh wait: It is

I know you all filter everything through the lens of "What's best for the football team?" which means you think everyone's just too scared to play you, but the sooner you realize that most D3 institutions have bigger concerns than the football team picking up an elite OOC game, the easier it'll be for you.

D3fanboy

Quote from: IC798891 on Yesterday at 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on February 14, 2026, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on February 14, 2026, 01:15:30 PMUMHB's two year scheduling agreement with Keystone screams desperation. It is not a good look for the program.
Go ahead and list the teams who are interested in scheduling a series with us. Then we can discuss which ones would be better options.

One would think the Division 3 philosophy is grounded in conference and regional competition rather than national and most schools are interested in scheduling as such.

Oh wait: It is

I know you all filter everything through the lens of "What's best for the football team?" which means you think everyone's just too scared to play you, but the sooner you realize that most D3 institutions have bigger concerns than the football team picking up an elite OOC game, the easier it'll be for you.

nobody is scared to play UMHB.  Pick them up in week 4 or 5 and a third of their team has re-entered the portal after transferring in a couple of months earlier.  That non-D3 culture paired with being the only D3FB school to ever vacate a national championship...why would any D3 program fly to Texas?

UMHB03

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Quote from: IC798891 on Yesterday at 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on February 14, 2026, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on February 14, 2026, 01:15:30 PMUMHB's two year scheduling agreement with Keystone screams desperation. It is not a good look for the program.
Go ahead and list the teams who are interested in scheduling a series with us. Then we can discuss which ones would be better options.

One would think the Division 3 philosophy is grounded in conference and regional competition rather than national and most schools are interested in scheduling as such.

Oh wait: It is

I know you all filter everything through the lens of "What's best for the football team?" which means you think everyone's just too scared to play you, but the sooner you realize that most D3 institutions have bigger concerns than the football team picking up an elite OOC game, the easier it'll be for you.
Thanks, you just proved my point.

We have limited options in our region to schedule, and few schools from outside our region want to play us, so we're forced to schedule those who do. Then you trolls come around offering unsolicited critiques of our scheduling without offering any ideas for what a program in our position should do differently.
2016, 2018, and 2021 D3 Football National Champions

HSCTiger74

Quote from: UMHB03 on Yesterday at 03:06:22 PM
Quote from: IC798891 on Yesterday at 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on February 14, 2026, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on February 14, 2026, 01:15:30 PMUMHB's two year scheduling agreement with Keystone screams desperation. It is not a good look for the program.
Go ahead and list the teams who are interested in scheduling a series with us. Then we can discuss which ones would be better options.

One would think the Division 3 philosophy is grounded in conference and regional competition rather than national and most schools are interested in scheduling as such.

Oh wait: It is

I know you all filter everything through the lens of "What's best for the football team?" which means you think everyone's just too scared to play you, but the sooner you realize that most D3 institutions have bigger concerns than the football team picking up an elite OOC game, the easier it'll be for you.
Thanks, you just proved my point.

We have limited options in our region to schedule, and few schools from outside our region want to play us, so we're forced to schedule those who do. Then you trolls come around offering unsolicited critiques of our scheduling without offering any ideas for what a program in our position should do differently.

What about the possibility that it's not that they don't want to play you, but rather that they are unwilling to take on the extra cost of a trip to Texas?
TANSTAAFL

UMHB03

Quote from: HSCTiger74 on Today at 04:22:28 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on Yesterday at 03:06:22 PM
Quote from: IC798891 on Yesterday at 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: UMHB03 on February 14, 2026, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: The Third Division on February 14, 2026, 01:15:30 PMUMHB's two year scheduling agreement with Keystone screams desperation. It is not a good look for the program.
Go ahead and list the teams who are interested in scheduling a series with us. Then we can discuss which ones would be better options.

One would think the Division 3 philosophy is grounded in conference and regional competition rather than national and most schools are interested in scheduling as such.

Oh wait: It is

I know you all filter everything through the lens of "What's best for the football team?" which means you think everyone's just too scared to play you, but the sooner you realize that most D3 institutions have bigger concerns than the football team picking up an elite OOC game, the easier it'll be for you.
Thanks, you just proved my point.

We have limited options in our region to schedule, and few schools from outside our region want to play us, so we're forced to schedule those who do. Then you trolls come around offering unsolicited critiques of our scheduling without offering any ideas for what a program in our position should do differently.

What about the possibility that it's not that they don't want to play you, but rather that they are unwilling to take on the extra cost of a trip to Texas?
That's probably the case with many of them. That doesn't explain why so many are unwilling to schedule us at home, given that Harmon has been willing to schedule standalone road games, but I'm sure geography is a factor.

However, the scheduling challenges remain regardless of the reasons they don't want to schedule us, which is why we are forced to schedule whoever is willing to play us. I still haven't seen any suggestions from the backseat drivers as to what UMHB should be doing differently.
2016, 2018, and 2021 D3 Football National Champions