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[uvmcatamount14]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

[WRMUalum13]

I remember watching the Wartburg at Mount Union semifinal game with my dad a few years ago and Mount got to the 1-yard line for first and goal. I told my dad that Coach Brain Fart is going to have Plunk throw a corner fade and get it picked off. Sure enough. That is exactly what happened.

I emailed the Coach and he clearly had a thin skin about it. If you cannot get one yard in four tries, you are not winning a title. If I knew that play was coming and the Wartburg coaches knew it was coming, who messed up? I will wait. Coach Brain Fart and I have the same number of national championships as a coach. Zero! Mic drop. 

LOL, you think? That cracks me up, did he respond to you?

[D3fanboy]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

[uvmcatamount14]

He did. He was not happy and then the next year asked if I would join their Spring season because of my coaching expertise. I replied kindly and said thanks, but I am working with North Central. Hard to talk smack after getting beat by NC. But he tried. 

[Fido0650]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

My hand is up.
As far as non-D3 schools, there will be more than a handful of high schools that will be looking for a new head coach for next season.

[MUC 2008]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

I am starting to wonder if/when this will happen. Toledo hasn't looked its best this year. Plus MAC coordinators often don't get offers to coach even Northwestern from there - my guess is VK would have to go to an FCS or maybe an (admittedly, FBS) MAC/G5 school, and so far he's in the same place he was in January of 2020.

[D3fanboy]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

I am starting to wonder if/when this will happen. Toledo hasn't looked its best this year. Plus MAC coordinators often don't get offers to coach even Northwestern from there - my guess is VK would have to go to an FCS or maybe an (admittedly, FBS) MAC/G5 school, and so far he's in the same place he was in January of 2020.

VK has built Toledo into a pretty good defense, their issues aren't really the defense's fault.  I think that VK would have been the no doubt next HC if Candle would have left.  But with their struggles, Candle might be back again.  VK is a hot commodity as a DC at the big school level.  If Candle is going to be a Toledo lifer, VK might need to jump

[MUC 2008]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

I am starting to wonder if/when this will happen. Toledo hasn't looked its best this year. Plus MAC coordinators often don't get offers to coach even Northwestern from there - my guess is VK would have to go to an FCS or maybe an (admittedly, FBS) MAC/G5 school, and so far he's in the same place he was in January of 2020.

VK has built Toledo into a pretty good defense, their issues aren't really the defense's fault.  I think that VK would have been the no doubt next HC if Candle would have left.  But with their struggles, Candle might be back again.  VK is a hot commodity as a DC at the big school level.  If Candle is going to be a Toledo lifer, VK might need to jump

Seems reasonable to me. I don't follow the MAC as much as I should; November MACtion is a great time to start!

[Dr. Acula]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

I am starting to wonder if/when this will happen. Toledo hasn't looked its best this year. Plus MAC coordinators often don't get offers to coach even Northwestern from there - my guess is VK would have to go to an FCS or maybe an (admittedly, FBS) MAC/G5 school, and so far he's in the same place he was in January of 2020.

VK has built Toledo into a pretty good defense, their issues aren't really the defense's fault.  I think that VK would have been the no doubt next HC if Candle would have left.  But with their struggles, Candle might be back again.  VK is a hot commodity as a DC at the big school level.  If Candle is going to be a Toledo lifer, VK might need to jump

In talking with some UT buddies it seems a growing portion of the fanbase is getting tired of having the best recruiting class every year, being picked near the top in preseason only to then (in their minds) underachieve.  The BG loss this year did not do Candle any favors, but this has been simmering for a little while.  I don't see it nearly as bad as they do, but in fairness I'm sure they think I'm a lunatic for complaining about a team that goes 10-0 every year.

[D3fanboy]

Ok, if referring to the past handful of years (seven?). Curt Fitzpatrick actually beat Brad Spencer in the Stagg Bowl and then was hired by Colgate. Who here sees Dartt getting hired by a FCS school or any other non-D3 school? Show of hands?

does LK make VK hire his brother-in-law when VK gets his first FBS HC job?  GD has a 94% winning percentage and never lost a conference game!!!  he'd be a tremendous hire at TE or OL coach on the FCS level!!! please...please

I am starting to wonder if/when this will happen. Toledo hasn't looked its best this year. Plus MAC coordinators often don't get offers to coach even Northwestern from there - my guess is VK would have to go to an FCS or maybe an (admittedly, FBS) MAC/G5 school, and so far he's in the same place he was in January of 2020.

VK has built Toledo into a pretty good defense, their issues aren't really the defense's fault.  I think that VK would have been the no doubt next HC if Candle would have left.  But with their struggles, Candle might be back again.  VK is a hot commodity as a DC at the big school level.  If Candle is going to be a Toledo lifer, VK might need to jump

In talking with some UT buddies it seems a growing portion of the fanbase is getting tired of having the best recruiting class every year, being picked near the top in preseason only to then (in their minds) underachieve. The BG loss this year did not do Candle any favors, but this has been simmering for a little while.  I don't see it nearly as bad as they do, but in fairness I'm sure they think I'm a lunatic for complaining about a team that goes 10-0 every year.

sounds sort of familiar

[Captainred81]

A lot of the feelings i have about this game have already been said. 

I think this was completely uninspired football.  They played flat almost the whole.  It was very cliche, like they were expecting Marietta to lay down and let them win.  Don't get me wrong, I think the coaching has responsibility to create inspiration and motivation, but if not for their coaching and talent, they lose that game.  Between drops, bad passes, bad play calling, missed blocks, penalties, penalties, penalties, missed tackled, missed coverages.. They scored 30 points in 2 quarters (2nd and 3rd).  The best teams find a way to win, even when it seems like they shouldn't.  Maybe this team thought they were going to have to grind to get through games 1 and 2, and when they didn't they thought, hmmm maybe we are the best. 

My hope is that, this team will watch this tape, and these coaches will see this as an area of need.  Come into Muskingum, knowing that they could lose and playing like it needs to be their best game.  I would love to see them win that game 50+ to 0.  If Cap held them to 7, Mount should be able to do better.  Like their season depends on it. 

NCC is still on their way up.  7 years at the top is different than 30+.  They are not taking any wins for granted.  I think this team at Mount is...  Should Mount be beating Otterbein and Capital and Marietta by 50+... yes... But they still have to play hard and try hard, they don't just give it to you

T

[D3fanboy]

NCC is still on their way up.  7 years at the top is different than 30+.  They are not taking any wins for granted.  I think this team at Mount is...

That is a huge part of the problem.  Mount hasn't been at the top in 7+ years.  There is nobody in their program that has won anything other than an OAC title.  Mount should be grinding to get back on top, but they use lame sayings like "1-0 each week" and "the standard...". 

[BergAlum2]

Mount Union's Averages Against OAC Regular Season Opponents                
       

YEAR	PNTS SCORED	PNTS ALLOWED	MARGIN OF VICTORY
2025	47.0	11.3	35.7
2024	44.3	15.1	29.2
2023	51.6	6.1	47.3
2022	46.1	8.8	37.3
2021	49.0	9.3	39.7
2019	53.2	6.8	46.4
2018	52.8	10.7	42.1
2017	48.5	9.6	39.3
2016	50.0	9.3	40.7
2015	54.6	3.8	50.8
2014	61.1	7.9	53.2

Did some analysis of the last 11 seasons for Mount Union's performance against OAC teams in the regular season, and the last two years are definitely down compared to years past.  The average margin of victory is down, and the average amount of points scored on Mount is higher.   This year doesn't even seem to have a strong 2nd place OAC team, and Mount has one less tough conference game this year with the quitters JCU leaving.  What does this mean?  Who knows?  Is Mount less dominant than it used to be or is the OAC better on the aggregate then we used to be?  Don't think we did that great this year in terms of OOC game winning percentage either.  Don't have the time but would be interesting to see how the average yards allowed in total and by type (rushing/passing) has changed or remained stable.  I def. think ya'll are giving up more yards this year.

[mc1983]

Should Mount be beating Otterbein and Capital and Marietta by 50+... yes...

It's been a tough year for Marietta. But, c'mon, I don't think we're quite in that group yet... 

Seriously, though, there was a consensus among some of the Marietta parents and fans that "something" got figured out at the Wilmington game. We finally looked a bit like last year's team, particularly playing faster on defense and stopping the run.

I know that all of the Mount fans here think that the Raiders played poorly (and they did), but Marietta had a lot to do with it. Tenta is going to be a good QB in this league. I think that the new Marietta staff is figuring out how best to use the personnel. Big offseason for recruiting, but the Pioneers are not done yet. There were a lot of recruits in the house on Saturday. Taking Mount to the wire was important to show that we aren't far away from being nationally competitive again.

[BergAlum2]

Taking Mount to the wire was important to show that we aren't far away from being nationally competitive again.

It be interesting to see where ya'll land next year.  This year you had a new coach and a lot of talent graduate, and you had a great opener against Westminister. If you hadn't blown the Berg Game and played just a bit better against the Muskies, you'd be a more respectable 6-3 and end the season in 3rd place in the OAC at 7-3.  I think the perceived downfall is premature, but next year will be interesting to see what happens.  I'm a fan of any OAC team that can keep the Mount game competitive going into the 4th quarter, hopefully someone finishes the job soon again.