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D3fanboy

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2025, 11:22:05 AMMount Union on ESPN:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZVx9s62iB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

just a freshman

Mount might have been 2 for 2 in Dodge Rams if Pat McAfee was doing that promotion again this year.  No other D3 program can sniff what Mount has in terms of publicity/notoriety on a national stage.  LK built a monster

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500

D3fanboy

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500


between the complacency of Mount fans, the ease of streaming, the younger generation sort of sucking, the new alumni association leaders, and the lack of a true "rival" Sadly, I think the days of "big" Mount attendance are in the past.   

imo, the greatness of the Mount football program has been extremely taken for granted in the last 5-8 years by the powers that be.  Maybe we're in cost savings mode now as a small college university, but why not market the hell out of the main reason most people have heard of you? or why half of your freshman class is there?

bleedpurple

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 13, 2025, 10:54:51 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 13, 2025, 09:41:43 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Even though it was the most lopsided loss I've seen UW-W take in 60 years, the atmosphere in the 2015 semi's was incredible.

And that's saying a lot considering the huge crowds UWW plays in front of! I think UWW vs UWL broke 20k IIRC

No doubt! The atmosphere when we get on those huge crowd Saturdays is amazing! So much fun! But it's not all about the total number of people. When you pack out a smaller venue, it really does rival the big numbers. The Mount crowd behind our bunch was antagonizing, but in kind of a fun way. And for whatever reason, the crowd felt almost as loud as the huge crowds at the Perk!

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500


between the complacency of Mount fans, the ease of streaming, the younger generation sort of sucking, the new alumni association leaders, and the lack of a true "rival" Sadly, I think the days of "big" Mount attendance are in the past.   

imo, the greatness of the Mount football program has been extremely taken for granted in the last 5-8 years by the powers that be.  Maybe we're in cost savings mode now as a small college university, but why not market the hell out of the main reason most people have heard of you? or why half of your freshman class is there?

It doesn't seem like it's less marketed than it used to be and UMU Football has been all over national news in recent years, Pat Mcafee show, alum winning the superbowl, the LK feature on ESPN about Sirianni etc.



D3fanboy

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500


between the complacency of Mount fans, the ease of streaming, the younger generation sort of sucking, the new alumni association leaders, and the lack of a true "rival" Sadly, I think the days of "big" Mount attendance are in the past.   

imo, the greatness of the Mount football program has been extremely taken for granted in the last 5-8 years by the powers that be.  Maybe we're in cost savings mode now as a small college university, but why not market the hell out of the main reason most people have heard of you? or why half of your freshman class is there?

It doesn't seem like it's less marketed than it used to be and UMU Football has been all over national news in recent years, Pat Mcafee show, alum winning the superbowl, the LK feature on ESPN about Sirianni etc.




and none of that has to do with the current admin.  The national media stuff will take care of itself with the football team winning 99% of its games after LK building the empire.  Retweets and facebook posts are great, but actually do something.  The dwindling student/alumni/local support has to do with the lack of marketing, etc

pradierguy

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500


between the complacency of Mount fans, the ease of streaming, the younger generation sort of sucking, the new alumni association leaders, and the lack of a true "rival" Sadly, I think the days of "big" Mount attendance are in the past.   

imo, the greatness of the Mount football program has been extremely taken for granted in the last 5-8 years by the powers that be.  Maybe we're in cost savings mode now as a small college university, but why not market the hell out of the main reason most people have heard of you? or why half of your freshman class is there?

It doesn't seem like it's less marketed than it used to be and UMU Football has been all over national news in recent years, Pat Mcafee show, alum winning the superbowl, the LK feature on ESPN about Sirianni etc.




and none of that has to do with the current admin.  The national media stuff will take care of itself with the football team winning 99% of its games after LK building the empire.  Retweets and facebook posts are great, but actually do something.  The dwindling student/alumni/local support has to do with the lack of marketing, etc


I completely agree with all of this. Its almost like the current admin is ashamed of the program, when in all reality is the main reason the school is still thriving. Frustrating to say the least.

Dr. Acula

I will mention something anecdotally from dealing with HS baseball players the last decade - when they visit certain D3 schools, and Mount specifically, they talk about how much energy there is around athletics within the "family".  I've had kids do overnight visits.  Depending on the time of year their host player will take them to the football game or basketball game.  They've all liked that when they went to the basketball game there was a crowd of other baseball players and athletes from other sports there supporting their fellow Raiders.  Point being that the school should be doing everything they can to promote that experience across the board in athletics because the kids notice it and enjoy it.  And whether they like it or not, athletics drives enrollment.

p.s. the other thing that draws them is not shockingly facilities.  Musky's new facility, Witt's indoor facility, etc. are a magnet to at least get the kids to visit campus.

#1OacFan

Quote from: Dr. Acula on October 15, 2025, 08:40:03 AM.

p.s. the other thing that draws them is not shockingly facilities.  Musky's new facility, Witt's indoor facility, etc. are a magnet to at least get the kids to visit campus.
Witt's Football profile has gone down dramatically since opening up their indoor facility (currently 2-4) in fact of the last three weeks they've lost three games. Are they total score of 86-19.

Dr. Acula

Has Witt's roster size gone down dramatically from year to year of the Collins era?  I don't know the answer to that, but that would tell me more than their record in terms of the effectiveness of the facilities in drawing players.

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2025, 11:22:05 AMMount Union on ESPN:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZVx9s62iB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

just a freshman

Mount might have been 2 for 2 in Dodge Rams if Pat McAfee was doing that promotion again this year.  No other D3 program can sniff what Mount has in terms of publicity/notoriety on a national stage.  LK built a monster

Sophomore / Redshirt freshman, feels like a notable distinction, big difference between somebody who's experienced college game speed and is in their true first season seeing it

D3fanboy

Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 15, 2025, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2025, 11:22:05 AMMount Union on ESPN:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZVx9s62iB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

just a freshman

Mount might have been 2 for 2 in Dodge Rams if Pat McAfee was doing that promotion again this year.  No other D3 program can sniff what Mount has in terms of publicity/notoriety on a national stage.  LK built a monster

Sophomore / Redshirt freshman, feels like a notable distinction, big difference between somebody who's experienced college game speed and is in their true first season seeing it

tomato/tomahto.  Maloney has three more years of eligibility after this year.  A couple dozen snaps vs Ferrum, Wilma and BW backups last year isn't exactly "experiencing college speed".  IMO, it makes you wonder more about last years playoff run and how that would have looked if Maloney would not have been injured...I appreciate what DeShields did for Mount, but Maloney is different

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on October 15, 2025, 01:32:05 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 15, 2025, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on October 14, 2025, 11:22:05 AMMount Union on ESPN:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZVx9s62iB/?mibextid=wwXIfr

just a freshman

Mount might have been 2 for 2 in Dodge Rams if Pat McAfee was doing that promotion again this year.  No other D3 program can sniff what Mount has in terms of publicity/notoriety on a national stage.  LK built a monster

Sophomore / Redshirt freshman, feels like a notable distinction, big difference between somebody who's experienced college game speed and is in their true first season seeing it

tomato/tomahto.  Maloney has three more years of eligibility after this year.  A couple dozen snaps vs Ferrum, Wilma and BW backups last year isn't exactly "experiencing college speed".  IMO, it makes you wonder more about last years playoff run and how that would have looked if Maloney would not have been injured...I appreciate what DeShields did for Mount, but Maloney is different

That extra year of development is a pretty big deal though, there's a good reason so many D1 schools red shirt there players.
Quote from: pradierguy on October 15, 2025, 08:03:03 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 14, 2025, 11:58:59 AM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on October 14, 2025, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: D3fanboy on October 12, 2025, 10:27:03 PMunfortunately, with the expanded playoffs pushing everything back a week.  I doubt that you'll ever see those large attendance numbers at Mount again.  Maybe if you got JCU in a round that isn't over Thanksgiving, maybe.  The UWW semi-final was something special

Yeah even the last JCU playoff game that wasn't during thanksgiving weekend only got about 4500


between the complacency of Mount fans, the ease of streaming, the younger generation sort of sucking, the new alumni association leaders, and the lack of a true "rival" Sadly, I think the days of "big" Mount attendance are in the past.   

imo, the greatness of the Mount football program has been extremely taken for granted in the last 5-8 years by the powers that be.  Maybe we're in cost savings mode now as a small college university, but why not market the hell out of the main reason most people have heard of you? or why half of your freshman class is there?

It doesn't seem like it's less marketed than it used to be and UMU Football has been all over national news in recent years, Pat Mcafee show, alum winning the superbowl, the LK feature on ESPN about Sirianni etc.




and none of that has to do with the current admin.  The national media stuff will take care of itself with the football team winning 99% of its games after LK building the empire.  Retweets and facebook posts are great, but actually do something.  The dwindling student/alumni/local support has to do with the lack of marketing, etc


I completely agree with all of this. Its almost like the current admin is ashamed of the program, when in all reality is the main reason the school is still thriving. Frustrating to say the least.

I don't see any evidence of this.  How are they "ashamed?" of the program. Mount Union Athletics puts out high quality highlight videos after each game, they promote games on their websites, they have a good social media presence. Do they need a free bobblehead or t-shirt night or something?

Not to mention they recently invested in a brand refresh for all of athletics (not something an administration that didn't understand the value of athletics would do).

The biggest marketing sin I've seen from Mount Union Football is there general apathy/disdain for D3 football.com. But that's from the program itself and not the admin.


Kira & Jaxon's Dad

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wally_wabash

Quote from: Dr. Acula on October 15, 2025, 01:18:56 PMHas Witt's roster size gone down dramatically from year to year of the Collins era?  I don't know the answer to that, but that would tell me more than their record in terms of the effectiveness of the facilities in drawing players.

Like a lot of institutions that are in Wittenberg's peer bucket, they've faced significantly decreased enrollment (down something like 25% or so in the last 10 years) and were recently given the "financially distressed" label by their accreditor.  Not insurmountable, but also not just a football problem there.  They're working through an enrollment slide across the board. 
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