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Desertraider

Quote from: BergAlum2 on Today at 01:00:33 PMMaybe not for Mount but already this OAC season seems like its going to be way more fun to watch.  I don't think Heidelberg will get the job done next week against BW, but should be a good game.  Also after that you got BW vs ONU, and along the way Marietta might upset some folks.  Really think we are going to get a 8-0 BW vs. a 6-2 Mount, essentially a playoff game for Mount.  You know BW will be coming into town looking to make a statement. 


Wish that 3:00 kickoff was a 7PM one, a night game would be more electric, plus its long been time for ya'll to have an OAC conference night game again against a good opponent. 

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Quote from: Desertraider on Today at 09:10:53 AMAny hopes Mount comes out of the off week transformed?

I think it needs to start on Defense.  I googled the most points given up by Mount Union in a game:

2013:  (50)  62-59 win vs Wesley in Quarterfinals
2013:  (52)  52-14 Loss to UWW in Stagg
1999:  (51)  57-51 Triple OT win vs John Carroll
2007:  (44)  44-34 Loss to Mary Hardin-Baylor in the Stagg Bowl
2013:  (40)  41-40 win vs North Central in Semifinals
2009:  (38)  38-28 Loss to UWW in the Stagg Bowl
2026:  (37)  37-31 Loss to Hedelberg
2019:  (34)  34-14 Loss to North Central in Second Round
2013:  (34)  42-34 Win vs John Carrol in Regular Season
2016:  (31)  31-28 Loss to John Carroll in Regular Season Finale
2001:  (30)  33-30 win over John Carroll in Regular Season

The majority are in the playoffs or to JCU who was a perennially nationally ranked team.

I can't find a way to justify giving up 37 to Heidelberg.  Especially when we had Five Interceptions on Defense.


That list isn't close to correct, the AI summary did quite a bit of hallucinating, here's a few corrections and additions I noticed:

2019 was 59-52 against NCC , I vividly remember the defense being optional at that one.
2007 Stagg Bowl was against UWW and it was 31-21
2014 Stagg Bowl was a 43-34 loss against UWW
1999 UMU gave up 33 in a W against Augustana
2015 Stagg Bowl was a 49-35 W
2013 UMU had a 70-45 W against Alfred in the playoffs
2013 UMU also had a 44-34 W against Berg

This inspired me to do some digging by hand, here are all the games mount gave up 30+ points in the last 10 years.

for clarity I just put the amount of points given up and the opponent and result

2019 59 NCC        Loss
2016 45 Alfred    Win
2024 41 NCC        Loss
2017 40 UW Oshkosh Win
2017 37 Frostburg  Win
2024 37 JHU Win
2026 37 ONU Loss
2018 35 Centre  Win
2021 35 ONU Win
2021 35 JHU Win
2016 31 JCU Loss
2024 31 JCU Win


We lost to Heidelberg this year, not ONU.   ;)

Now I'm hallucinating!!

D3fanboy

Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on Today at 01:10:22 PM
Quote from: WRMUalum13 on Today at 12:27:15 PM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on Today at 09:21:49 AM
Quote from: Desertraider on Today at 09:10:53 AMAny hopes Mount comes out of the off week transformed?

I think it needs to start on Defense.  I googled the most points given up by Mount Union in a game:

2013:  (50)  62-59 win vs Wesley in Quarterfinals
2013:  (52)  52-14 Loss to UWW in Stagg
1999:  (51)  57-51 Triple OT win vs John Carroll
2007:  (44)  44-34 Loss to Mary Hardin-Baylor in the Stagg Bowl
2013:  (40)  41-40 win vs North Central in Semifinals
2009:  (38)  38-28 Loss to UWW in the Stagg Bowl
2026:  (37)  37-31 Loss to Hedelberg
2019:  (34)  34-14 Loss to North Central in Second Round
2013:  (34)  42-34 Win vs John Carrol in Regular Season
2016:  (31)  31-28 Loss to John Carroll in Regular Season Finale
2001:  (30)  33-30 win over John Carroll in Regular Season

The majority are in the playoffs or to JCU who was a perennially nationally ranked team.

I can't find a way to justify giving up 37 to Heidelberg.  Especially when we had Five Interceptions on Defense.


That list isn't close to correct, the AI summary did quite a bit of hallucinating, here's a few corrections and additions I noticed:

2019 was 59-52 against NCC , I vividly remember the defense being optional at that one.
2007 Stagg Bowl was against UWW and it was 31-21
2014 Stagg Bowl was a 43-34 loss against UWW
1999 UMU gave up 33 in a W against Augustana
2015 Stagg Bowl was a 49-35 W
2013 UMU had a 70-45 W against Alfred in the playoffs
2013 UMU also had a 44-34 W against Berg

This inspired me to do some digging by hand, here are all the games mount gave up 30+ points in the last 10 years.

for clarity I just put the amount of points given up and the opponent and result

2019 59 NCC        Loss
2016 45 Alfred    Win
2024 41 NCC        Loss
2017 40 UW Oshkosh Win
2017 37 Frostburg  Win
2024 37 JHU Win
2026 37 ONU Loss
2018 35 Centre  Win
2021 35 ONU Win
2021 35 JHU Win
2016 31 JCU Loss
2024 31 JCU Win


We lost to Heidelberg this year, not ONU.   ;)

yet.  With Geoff, all things are possible

D3fanboy

Quote from: Desertraider on Today at 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: BergAlum2 on Today at 01:00:33 PMMaybe not for Mount but already this OAC season seems like its going to be way more fun to watch.  I don't think Heidelberg will get the job done next week against BW, but should be a good game.  Also after that you got BW vs ONU, and along the way Marietta might upset some folks.  Really think we are going to get a 8-0 BW vs. a 6-2 Mount, essentially a playoff game for Mount.  You know BW will be coming into town looking to make a statement. 


Wish that 3:00 kickoff was a 7PM one, a night game would be more electric, plus its long been time for ya'll to have an OAC conference night game again against a good opponent. 

PLAYOFFS? Playoffs? You talking PLAYOFFS??

if things get a little crazy in the OAC, a 3-way tie at the top (likely Berg, BW, Mount all with one conference loss) results in a confidential vote among the other six conference coaches.  A 3-3 split would put the coach of the team with no votes back into the voting pool for a seven coach re-vote.  what would happen with a 2-2-2 vote?  that is not in the OAC bylaws.  There used to be a coin flip final option, but I'm not sure that would be applicable in the nine team OAC era.

WRMUalum13

Quote from: D3fanboy on Today at 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: Desertraider on Today at 01:24:18 PM
Quote from: BergAlum2 on Today at 01:00:33 PMMaybe not for Mount but already this OAC season seems like its going to be way more fun to watch.  I don't think Heidelberg will get the job done next week against BW, but should be a good game.  Also after that you got BW vs ONU, and along the way Marietta might upset some folks.  Really think we are going to get a 8-0 BW vs. a 6-2 Mount, essentially a playoff game for Mount.  You know BW will be coming into town looking to make a statement. 


Wish that 3:00 kickoff was a 7PM one, a night game would be more electric, plus its long been time for ya'll to have an OAC conference night game again against a good opponent. 

PLAYOFFS? Playoffs? You talking PLAYOFFS??

if things get a little crazy in the OAC, a 3-way tie at the top (likely Berg, BW, Mount all with one conference loss) results in a confidential vote among the other six conference coaches.  A 3-3 split would put the coach of the team with no votes back into the voting pool for a seven coach re-vote.  what would happen with a 2-2-2 vote?  that is not in the OAC bylaws.  There used to be a coin flip final option, but I'm not sure that would be applicable in the nine team OAC era.

That's such a bad option for a tie breaker, just use 1st half point differential. It gives you something a little more objective and it won't result in crazy blowouts.