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ADL70

Pat beat me to it.

He brought in a large recruiting class and some d2 transfers.
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Funny, I like to read the PAC board as I have a lot of respect for the conference. I don't really post as I'm not to familiar with the teams. I just come here for the Dr. Evil "info." With that said, I can't quite tell if ADL70 is a ****ing giant douche, a very knowledgeable d3 poster, or a little bit of both... :-* 
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ADL70

I'm happy to share information with folks who have something meaningful to say. See my conversations with SFUkinda and BisonBill.
But I have no patience for trolls who post bs.I have followed small college sports since the 60s when Wittenberg in my hometown was a multi-sports champion.

I've posted on here for almost 25 years. After I retired, I volunteered with the CWRU Sports Information department. I proofread articles and worked football game day stats.


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HCAlum86

In Hiram news, barring any injuries etc., Tejeda may be in a place to begin rewriting the Hiram record books to his name over the next couple weeks. Seems like a very nice, solid young man and I'm happy for him - hopefully he can get a 3-0 start to his name as well.
July 13, 1904
Hiram College wins the inter-collegiate basketball world championship at the World's Fair Universal Exposition Olympic Games in St. Louis, Missouri. Final score: Hiram, 25; Latter Day Saints University, 18.

ADL70

Looks like he's already started rewriting.

From his site bio, 2025 Recorded 217 completions for 2911 yards and 24 touchdowns (1st on team and both school records)
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RowanPhan

Quote from: ADL70 on September 22, 2026, 05:05:39 PMI've posted on here for almost 25 years. After I retired, I volunteered with the CWRU Sports Information department. I proofread articles and worked football game day stats.
Football stat tracking is something that is an interest of mine. What I have noticed lately is that there can be discrepancies with stats - due to the human element. For example, in the last Rowan game, I noticed errors in the recorded stats since Rowan was on the road and the opponents sports department were tracking the stats. The stat that appears to be the most difficult to track is the Tackle.

I believe in the NCAA there are rules for the tackle and assisted tackle, but how is it done in the booth? Is it best effort basis or does the crew use replay to accurately capture the stats?

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ADL70

#6291
This may interest you then. I couldn't find 2026 manual online. file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Stats_Manual.pdf
"Effective with the 2004 season, all individual defensive statistics reported to
the NCAA must be compiled by the press-box statistics crew during the game."

Before then coaches would sometimes "pad" defensive stats after the game.


If two defensive players contribute equally to stopping a ball carrier, credit both players with an
assisted tackle, but give neither a solo tackle.
Note: In a situation in which there is not a solo tackle, there should
not be more than two assists credited except in rare instances. In
other words, on any given play one of the following may be credited: (1) one solo tackle, or (2) two assisted tackles. Only in the rarest of cases would more than two assisted tackles be credited.

The sat crew consisted of the recorder who input the plays. Then the caller who would announce for instance "Rush by #32 to home 35 tackle by by #4

My primary role was recording participation for one of the teams. Checking off players as they entered for the first time. I also helped ID tacklers when necessary.

Replay was used at times, but most often to identify who blocked a place kick or recovered a fumble.

I don't know if all schools have that large a stat crew.  Duplicate numbers also create issues at times.


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RowanPhan

Quote from: ADL70 on September 23, 2026, 08:59:34 PMThis may interest you then. I couldn't find 2026 manual online. file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Stats_Manual.pdf
"Effective with the 2004 season, all individual defensive statistics reported to
the NCAA must be compiled by the press-box statistics crew during the game."

Before then coaches would sometimes "pad" defensive stats after the game.


If two defensive players contribute equally to stopping a ball carrier, credit both players with an
assisted tackle, but give neither a solo tackle.
Note: In a situation in which there is not a solo tackle, there should
not be more than two assists credited except in rare instances. In
other words, on any given play one of the following may be credited: (1) one solo tackle, or (2) two assisted tackles. Only in the rarest of cases would more than two assisted tackles be credited.

The sat crew consisted of the recorder who input the plays. Then the caller who would announce for instance "Rush by #32 to home 35 tackle by by #4

My primary role was recording participation for one of the teams. Checking off players as they entered for the first time. I also helped ID tacklers when necessary.

Replay was used at times, but most often to identify who blocked a place kick or recovered a fumble.

I don't know if all schools have that large a stat crew.  Duplicate numbers also create issues at times.



Thank you for the insight, sounds like a fun job.

I have checked to see if the Rowan stats have been corrected, but they have not.  For example, our CB #29 was credited with a 2 yard rush in the first drive (When it was our RB #28) and I suppose that will live in the stats for ever now.

I remember a Rowan game from a few years ago at Stevenson where Rowan was awarded 0 assisted tackles for the entire game, I thought that was odd, yet the Stevenson team had dozens of assisted tackles.

I would gladly volunteer to help clean things up.
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ADL70

I looked at the play. Numbers were pretty legible. The announcer had no trouble calling #28. May have just been an input typo.

As I understand the process, your SID should have pointed out the error to his counterpart at Moravian to correct. In the future you could report any errors to the SID.

Missing a carry for only 2 yards helped your RB's stats.
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ADL70

Quote from: SFUkindaFan on September 21, 2026, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on September 20, 2026, 11:47:17 AMAre you a D3 alum or have another local team to support?

Do you know if the Flash/Wolves have been able to scrimmage anyone?


I have some connects to Westminster so I went to a bunch of their games but mostly am just a football fan. They did have a scrimmage. I feel like they could be competitive this year if only they had like 4 or so more offensive linemen. They only have maybe 10 or so players over 250 lbs, which is a big problem.
Quote from: SFUkindaFan on September 21, 2026, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: ADL70 on September 20, 2026, 11:47:17 AMAre you a D3 alum or have another local team to support?

Do you know if the Flash/Wolves have been able to scrimmage anyone?


I have some connects to Westminster so I went to a bunch of their games but mostly am just a football fan. They did have a scrimmage. I feel like they could be competitive this year if only they had like 4 or so more offensive linemen. They only have maybe 10 or so players over 250 lbs, which is a big problem.

Neither team has posted game notes yet. St Francis may remain a mystery until kickoff.
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DagarmanSpartan

Case QB Filips is now a semi-finalist for the 2026 Campbell Trophy, which honors athletics AND academics.

Besides being CWRU's starting QB and having great stats in his first few games, the guy is also working on a Master's degree in Aerospace and Mechanical Engineering, and has a 3.829 GPA.

A true ROCKET SCIENTIST!!!

https://athletics.case.edu/news/2026/9/24/football-filips-selected-as-a-semifinalist-for-the-2026-william-v-campbell-trophy.aspx?utm_medium=sidearm-email&utm_source=athletics.case.edu&utm_campaign=Filips+Selected+as+a+Semifinalist+for+the+2026+William+V.+Campbell+Trophy%c2%ae&utm_content=1ff2ac19-1141-43b1-8bd6-303dc11cf89e
CWRU Grad, Class of 1994, big D3 sports fan of that school.  Also a fan of Yeshiva U at the D3 level.  Fan of Houston and Illinois at the D1-FBS level.

SFUkindaFan

SFU just released their 2 deep.
4 of 5 starting O-linemen are freshmen.  The one returner played a decent amount last year. Some players on the line are playing on both sides of the ball. They have two good receivers/TEs that both played on last year's team and one is a 5th year senior.  Starting QB is apparently a Clarion transfer.

The defense looks pretty good, actually.  For sure some of those guys are on scholarships.  DL has a returning starter (Brown). Lewis at Safety started the first four games and got hurt.  A couple other guys that were reserves/ played special teams last year.

I think we will be fine until we lose a lineman to injury. As soon as that happens, we are in trouble. The defense should be good and the skill players on offense should be fine. If we had a couple more linemen we could compete, but I can't see us winning a game this year....best case scenario 1-7

ADL70

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ADL70

W&J has no excuse if they lose to CWRU.

Week 1 Lost to Utica (26-11). Something they also did in 2025, but still ran the table in PAC. Utica is now ranked  #23.

Week 2 Scheduled to play Keystone, definitely a bottom rung D3 team. The game was called at halftime due to weather with W&J up 42-0. They hardly had to break a sweat or show anything but their base plays.

Week 3 Open date So, full week to prepare for CWRU, something they probably worked on in Week 2.

They will be rested and prepared.

If there is a question mark it may be QB. Goodworth started against Utica, but was left the game halfway through the second quarter with a final line 2 of 7 1 int 12 yards. He was replaced by Burk who was 13 of 23 only 123 yards with a long of 18. He did score the only TD on a 17 yard run.

Burk started vs Keystone and was 10 of 12 for 169 yds 2 tds  Also ran for 2 tds. Wagner, a third QB, also played vs Keystone.

The challenge that CWRU presents to them is one game with 356 yds passing for 4 tds. And the second game with 278 yds on the ground.

QB Filips appeared to have some problem with his left (whew) shoulder after gaining 4 yards on a run for a first down, the last play of the game except for 2 kneel downs.

Turnovers were a problem vs Shenandoah, but you know that if you've been following along.

What do W&J fans think about the game being behind a paywall?

I don't think that being a good football affiliate. I think that you can find a link for a replay on the schedule website page by sometime Sunday.

This quite possibly is the de facto PAC championship game.

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Bison Bill

Quote from: ADL70 on September 22, 2026, 12:13:32 PMPat beat me to it.

He brought in a large recruiting class and some d2 transfers.


Yeah the team just looks more like a football team than years past. That doesn't necessarily mean wins, but we at least look the part. Years past you could tell we sucked the moment we came out for warmups.

I have not met the coach, but have watched and listened to a few of his interviews and think we got very lucky to get him.

Look what he did with this roster on short notice. He had to assemble a staff before they could recruit.

It will be interesting to see how well the staff recruits with a full season under their belts and a full recruiting cycle to work with.