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Quote from: hazzben on October 27, 2010, 11:49:34 PM

Funny that in either scenario, UWW is in for a tougher road than UMU.

Nothing new here.  This has, arguably, been the case most of the last 5 years. In 05 for example, before the practice of moving Mount and/or UW-W in an attempt to build brackets around strong #1 seeds, the Warhawks, (ranked #2 in the country,) had to beat #1 defending champs, Linfield @ Linfield, #5 SJU and  #8 Central on their way to the Stagg.  Rankings were according to D-3football at the time.  In no way am I saying that the North Region is ever any picnic for Mount, just that as a whole, I think it can be argued that the West Region Bracket has been the tougher one in those first few years before UMU was moved east the last few years. Again, maybe not each of the last 5 years but without doing any research and only using my feeble memory, I feel comfortable making this statement regarding the 05 season and, obviously, any season Mount was moved East while we got moved to the always tough north.)
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: footballfan413 on October 28, 2010, 10:16:19 AM
Quote from: hazzben on October 27, 2010, 11:49:34 PM

Funny that in either scenario, UWW is in for a tougher road than UMU.

Nothing new here.  This has, arguably, been the case most of the last 5 years. In 05 for example, before the practice of moving Mount and/or UW-W in an attempt to build brackets around strong #1 seeds, the Warhawks, (ranked #2 in the country,) had to beat #1 defending champs, Linfield @ Linfield, #5 SJU and  #8 Central on their way to the Stagg.  Rankings were according to D-3football at the time.  In no way am I saying that the North Region is ever any picnic for Mount, just that as a whole, I think it can be argued that the West Region Bracket has been the tougher one in those first few years before UMU was moved east the last few years. Again, maybe not each of the last 5 years but without doing any research and only using my feeble memory, I feel comfortable making this statement regarding the 05 season and, obviously, any season Mount was moved East

No, but the east region will be if they go there.

I think any region with Linfield in it is scary. It'll be the toughest this year especially if UWW and St. Thomas gets put in the west along with Linfield.

then again NCC looks good this year, I don't want to play them either... ???

cardinaldad

A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

matblake

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 28, 2010, 10:36:49 AM
Quote from: footballfan413 on October 28, 2010, 10:16:19 AM
Quote from: hazzben on October 27, 2010, 11:49:34 PM

Funny that in either scenario, UWW is in for a tougher road than UMU.

Nothing new here.  This has, arguably, been the case most of the last 5 years. In 05 for example, before the practice of moving Mount and/or UW-W in an attempt to build brackets around strong #1 seeds, the Warhawks, (ranked #2 in the country,) had to beat #1 defending champs, Linfield @ Linfield, #5 SJU and  #8 Central on their way to the Stagg.  Rankings were according to D-3football at the time.  In no way am I saying that the North Region is ever any picnic for Mount, just that as a whole, I think it can be argued that the West Region Bracket has been the tougher one in those first few years before UMU was moved east the last few years. Again, maybe not each of the last 5 years but without doing any research and only using my feeble memory, I feel comfortable making this statement regarding the 05 season and, obviously, any season Mount was moved East

No, but the east region will be if they go there.

I think any region with Linfield in it is scary. It'll be the toughest this year especially if UWW and St. Thomas gets put in the west along with Linfield.

then again NCC looks good this year, I don't want to play them either... ???

Good defenses are always scarier than high powered offenses.  If you can't score it is significant'y more difficult to win.  The Cards are shaping up to be a scary good defense.  Wegner has that 6th sense. 

Both Linfield and a top runner from the MIAC are always scary.

Stagg Again!!

Quote from: matblake on October 28, 2010, 11:07:53 AM
Good defenses are always scarier than high powered offenses.  If you can't score it is significant'y more difficult to win.  The Cards are shaping up to be a scary good defense.  Wegner has that 6th sense. 

Both Linfield and a top runner from the MIAC are always scary.
"Offense sells tickets; defense wins championships." --  Coach Paul 'Bear' Bryant

CardinalAlum

Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!!  It's not even Wheatie week, yet!!   :D
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cardinaldad

Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 28, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!!  It's not even Wheatie week, yet!!   :D

Not looking ahead...........just warming up!  ;)

usee

This weekend is an interesting prelude to a huge week next week in the CCIW. Augie has caused some turnovers this year (their 5 takeaways are the reason they played Central so close at home) but they have not been great defensively against the run. If Wheaton can hold on to the ball (they have been so far this year) and run it against Augie (again, a strength of the Wheaton team) they should be able to hold serve in Rock Island. If you look at the team from Naperville, they ran for over 6 yds a carry in Rock Island and didn't turn it over. The result was a whitewash. Augie can certainly beat Wheaton on their home turf. I anticipate a close game but the Thunder should be able to wear them out and take over in the second half.

In Elmhurst, I want to be able to say the Bluejays can compete and play well at home, etc, etc. I just don't see it. They are giving up too much yardage and school from Naperville has the same type of spread-you-out-to-pound-you type offense that IWU used to run all over Elmhurst in Bloomington. The Naperville team won't turn it over 5 times like the Titans did. Joe Furco did not play well against Wheaton and has improved his stats since that game but he will have to play well for Elmhurst to have any chance. I really don't see Scottie Williams going for anywhere near 100 yds on the ground against the SFN.

I expect both teams to hold serve and set up an epic battle next week for the little brass bell and North Region #1 rights! :) But in this league we should all come to expect the unexpected.

Mugsy

Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!  Getting lumped in with Mr. Ypsi's generation.   :P
Wheaton Football: CCIW Champs: 1950, 1953-1959, 1995, 2000, 2002-2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2019

Mugsy

Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 28, 2010, 12:49:14 PM
Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!!  It's not even Wheatie week, yet!!   :D

If everything goes according to plan this week, next week could be quite entertaining here.
Wheaton Football: CCIW Champs: 1950, 1953-1959, 1995, 2000, 2002-2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2019

CardinalAlum

Quote from: Mugsy on October 28, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!  Getting lumped in with Mr. Ypsi's generation.   :P

Ah yes, always easy to take a shot at a Green Weenie!  ;).  ;D. +K
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: USee on October 28, 2010, 05:09:26 PM
This weekend is an interesting prelude to a huge week next week in the CCIW. Augie has caused some turnovers this year (their 5 takeaways are the reason they played Central so close at home) but they have not been great defensively against the run. If Wheaton can hold on to the ball (they have been so far this year) and run it against Augie (again, a strength of the Wheaton team) they should be able to hold serve in Rock Island. If you look at the team from Naperville, they ran for over 6 yds a carry in Rock Island and didn't turn it over. The result was a whitewash. Augie can certainly beat Wheaton on their home turf. I anticipate a close game but the Thunder should be able to wear them out and take over in the second half.

In Elmhurst, I want to be able to say the Bluejays can compete and play well at home, etc, etc. I just don't see it. They are giving up too much yardage and school from Naperville has the same type of spread-you-out-to-pound-you type offense that IWU used to run all over Elmhurst in Bloomington. The Naperville team won't turn it over 5 times like the Titans did. Joe Furco did not play well against Wheaton and has improved his stats since that game but he will have to play well for Elmhurst to have any chance. I really don't see Scottie Williams going for anywhere near 100 yds on the ground against the SFN.

I expect both teams to hold serve and set up an epic battle next week for the little brass bell and North Region #1 rights! :) But in this league we should all come to expect the unexpected.

Starting already also, Usee?  Haha.  ;D
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CardinalAlum

I am holding off until the Thunder are walking off the field with a W and the bell in Elmhurst is sitting there without ringing!   Really hoping for the battle for the Bell to be the biggest game the conference has seen in a long time with the conference championship and a possible #1 seed on the line!  Go Thunder (for this week)....go Cards!!!
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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: CardinalAlum on October 28, 2010, 08:28:31 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on October 28, 2010, 08:02:28 PM
Quote from: cardinaldad on October 28, 2010, 10:40:14 AM
A Cardinal win against EC will give John Thorne a tie with Gordon Fisher with 74 wins as a Cardinal football coach. Thorne is at 73-21 in 9 years. A .776 winning percentage. Fisher's record is 74-44-12. He coached from 1926-1942.  A win against Wheaton will not only keep the bell, but put him alone at the top of the list. Go Cards!!!! Mugsy, do you remember Fisher?  ;D ;D

Ouch!  Getting lumped in with Mr. Ypsi's generation.   :P

Ah yes, always easy to take a shot at a Green Weenie!  ;).  ;D. +K

Hey, I resemble that remark! :P

(Though, for the record, Fisher retired 6 years before I was born.)

Viking Mike

Sorry Wheaton fans........... I see this one in Rock Island going down a little differently. 

I agree a close game, but I see Augie holding off the Thunder in the end.
Vikes are still looking for a solid game against a great team.  I see Augie winning the turnover battle and Lee picking apart the pass defense of Wheaton.  I think the Augustana defense will come to play and hold the Thunder to 100-120yds on the ground.  Many think this is a 2 team race, but the Vikings still have something to say about this.  Look for Barnes to have the Viking ship righted for THIS game,  the 3rd home game against a ranked top 15 team.

Augie 24
Wheaton 21

Here's hoping for a nasty fight at the birdbath in Elmhurst this week.  A surprise upset of NC at Elmhurst this week followed by a loss to Wheaton the following week gives AUGIE a chance at the title and playoff bid.  Not likely, but still a possibility.  Would love to see it happen!  Stranger things have happened!!!   GO AUGUSTANA!!!