FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[USee]

I agree that NCC defensive front is the biggest mismatch. That's primarily why I don't think JCU can score more than 1-2 times. The bigger key is how the JCU defensive front holds up to the NCC running game. No one has so far, I though Bethel would have a chance and if they were healthy that might have played out. JCU has held some high quality running games to under 100 yds so this is the biggest test for the NCC run game to date IMO.

[GusD]

The majority of the talk we've heard about NCC vs JCU seems to be concentrated on the fact that the D line for JC will be the best NC has faced. If so, it seems to logically follow that chances are good that the NC ground game might well be limited to its lowest total of the season. Should that occur, does that pretty much insure JC wins? Let's not forget that NC can pass a little too, and that they are led by the nation's most efficient passer.

[D3fanboy]

NCC beats the brakes off of JCU tomorrow.  Great season for JCU, but unfortunately for the Streaks, the Cardinals aren't coached by a nepo-baby in over his head.  two blowouts this weekend should lead to a pretty stellar Stagg Bowl

[Gregory Sager]

Great season for JCU, but unfortunately for the Streaks, the Cardinals aren't coached by a nepo-baby in over his head.

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[bluestreak66]

Great season for JCU, but unfortunately for the Streaks, the Cardinals aren't coached by a nepo-baby in over his head.

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Mount Union's coach, AKA he who shall not be named

[USee]

The majority of the talk we've heard about NCC vs JCU seems to be concentrated on the fact that the D line for JC will be the best NC has faced. If so, it seems to logically follow that chances are good that the NC ground game might well be limited to its lowest total of the season. Should that occur, does that pretty much insure JC wins? Let's not forget that NC can pass a little too, and that they are led by the nation's most efficient passer.

First, I didn't see anyone say JCU was the best DL NCC will have faced. That may have well been last week v Bethel, we shall see. I pointed out that JCU's defensive front held some pretty high quality playoff caliber teams to under 100 yds rushing in those games so it translates for me that will be the determining factor. And, while NCC can certainly pass, Wilson is an efficient passer primarily because the NCC run game is crushing everyone and when you commit extra people to stop the run, pass opportunities abound. If I am a defensive coordinator going against NCC I would absolutely love if NCC became a passing team. Not because they can't do it, but because they want to run the ball (and you have to pick you poison), that's their identity.

[GusD]

The majority of the talk we've heard about NCC vs JCU seems to be concentrated on the fact that the D line for JC will be the best NC has faced. If so, it seems to logically follow that chances are good that the NC ground game might well be limited to its lowest total of the season. Should that occur, does that pretty much insure JC wins? Let's not forget that NC can pass a little too, and that they are led by the nation's most efficient passer.

First, I didn't see anyone say JCU was the best DL NCC will have faced. That may have well been last week v Bethel, we shall see. I pointed out that JCU's defensive front held some pretty high quality playoff caliber teams to under 100 yds rushing in those games so it translates for me that will be the determining factor. And, while NCC can certainly pass, Wilson is an efficient passer primarily because the NCC run game is crushing everyone and when you commit extra people to stop the run, pass opportunities abound. If I am a defensive coordinator going against NCC I would absolutely love if NCC became a passing team. Not because they can't do it, but because they want to run the ball (and you have to pick you poison), that's their identity.

Well, it seems Bethel is #16 (75.8 yds) vs the rush, and JC is #3 (48.8 yds). NC piled up 312 rushing yards vs Bethel so even if JC can produce a more stout defense against NC's ground game, it seems the question becomes whether JC can be better enough to make a difference.

Also, with NCC's identity being running, I'd say JCU's is passing. The obvious key to a W would be to shut down the opponent's strength. But, as usual, it NC is again able to run fairly effectively, and JC is able to throw in a like manner, perhaps the real key to victory will be to limit the other team's secondary strength. Will NC be better smothering JC's running game or will JC be better at blanketing NC's passing attack? I think there's a good chance that the W may well go to the team that wins this battle. 

[Cardinal773]

Great season for JCU, but unfortunately for the Streaks, the Cardinals aren't coached by a nepo-baby in over his head.

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Geoff Dartt is Larry Kehres' son-in-law. As a head coach he has never lost a regular season game and been to the championship game twice.  But since he hasn't won it all they want his head on a spike.

Even though I don't personally like the way Mount fans are piling up on the guy, the jokes about him having to sit at the kids' table during Thanksgiving are kinda funny.  Not a fan of their "Geoff Fart" jabs though.  It's a little too "7th grade" for me.  We can do better.  I'd rather do something like, "what do you expect from a guy who can't even spell 'Jeff'."

[CCIWFan69]

This NCC team is definitely not as explosive as last year.  They are only up 38-7 after 3Q in the semifinal versus 63-0 after 3Q last year.  Hopefully, they can get some better players next year.

[GusD]

This NCC team is definitely not as explosive as last year.  They are only up 38-7 after 3Q in the semifinal versus 63-0 after 3Q last year.  Hopefully, they can get some better players next year.

Yep, they definitely need some better players. I mean they're only in the Stagg Bowl for the SIXTH year in a row. Underachieving laggards.
I think what did explode, CCIWFan69, is your brain. 🤯

[CardinalAlum]

This NCC team is definitely not as explosive as last year.  They are only up 38-7 after 3Q in the semifinal versus 63-0 after 3Q last year.  Hopefully, they can get some better players next year.

Yep, they definitely need some better players. I mean they're only in the Stagg Bowl for the SIXTH year in a row. Underachieving laggards.
I think what did explode, CCIWFan69, is your brain. 🤯

Pretty sure that was sarcasm....

[CCIWFan69]

This NCC team is definitely not as explosive as last year.  They are only up 38-7 after 3Q in the semifinal versus 63-0 after 3Q last year.  Hopefully, they can get some better players next year.

Yep, they definitely need some better players. I mean they're only in the Stagg Bowl for the SIXTH year in a row. Underachieving laggards.
I think what did explode, CCIWFan69, is your brain. 🤯

Pretty sure that was sarcasm....

  Good luck in Canton

[GusD]

The majority of the talk we've heard about NCC vs JCU seems to be concentrated on the fact that the D line for JC will be the best NC has faced. If so, it seems to logically follow that chances are good that the NC ground game might well be limited to its lowest total of the season. Should that occur, does that pretty much insure JC wins? Let's not forget that NC can pass a little too, and that they are led by the nation's most efficient passer.

First, I didn't see anyone say JCU was the best DL NCC will have faced. That may have well been last week v Bethel, we shall see. I pointed out that JCU's defensive front held some pretty high quality playoff caliber teams to under 100 yds rushing in those games so it translates for me that will be the determining factor. And, while NCC can certainly pass, Wilson is an efficient passer primarily because the NCC run game is crushing everyone and when you commit extra people to stop the run, pass opportunities abound. If I am a defensive coordinator going against NCC I would absolutely love if NCC became a passing team. Not because they can't do it, but because they want to run the ball (and you have to pick you poison), that's their identity.

NCC ran for 204 yards which is under their 267 game average. However they passed for 324 yards, 101 over their per game average of 223. Perhaps, at least for this game, they did give the D coordinator what he thought he wanted by becoming primarily a passing team.
Who would have thought the Cards would total more yards through the air than did JC?

[CCIWFan69]

The majority of the talk we've heard about NCC vs JCU seems to be concentrated on the fact that the D line for JC will be the best NC has faced. If so, it seems to logically follow that chances are good that the NC ground game might well be limited to its lowest total of the season. Should that occur, does that pretty much insure JC wins? Let's not forget that NC can pass a little too, and that they are led by the nation's most efficient passer.

First, I didn't see anyone say JCU was the best DL NCC will have faced. That may have well been last week v Bethel, we shall see. I pointed out that JCU's defensive front held some pretty high quality playoff caliber teams to under 100 yds rushing in those games so it translates for me that will be the determining factor. And, while NCC can certainly pass, Wilson is an efficient passer primarily because the NCC run game is crushing everyone and when you commit extra people to stop the run, pass opportunities abound. If I am a defensive coordinator going against NCC I would absolutely love if NCC became a passing team. Not because they can't do it, but because they want to run the ball (and you have to pick you poison), that's their identity.

NCC ran for 204 yards which is under their 267 game average. However they passed for 324 yards, 101 over their per game average of 223. Perhaps, at least for this game, they did give the D coordinator what he thought he wanted by becoming primarily a passing team.
Who would have thought the Cards would total more yards through the air than did JC?

NCC could have run for 300+ yards if they wanted to.  They could have passed for 400+ as well.  This was not a great defense they faced today. 

[CarollFan]

Well we are getting the final people were asking for, NCC and UWRF. Should be a good one. Can NCC slow down the UWRF offense? Blaha with 520 passing yards today, 5 TD's and a rushing TD. Back and forth game with JHU until about 45 seconds left when UWRF hit a 79 yd TD. Not sure what JHU was doing on D on that play but exciting finish.

How about football in Illinois today.
NCC back in the final.
Illinois St in FCS final.
Bears come back to beat the Packers.