East Region Rankings

[Cards7580]

"...Well let's put it another way--Who has gone deeper into the NCAA's in the last ten years--Bport or Oswego--That's an easy call---Bport, if given the chance, usually represents very well at that level!!!This team would be no exception..."

Unfortunately for Brockport history doesn't win games in the current season. Oswego beat them soundly when the opportunity was presented to both teams.  For all the talk about Brockport's great team this season, they did not produce the results even close to predictions.  Even a 5 point loss to the U of R is a loss. Losing to Geneseo in the last regular season game was just astounding for such a "good" team.  The way they played last Friday against Oswego was extremely depressing because "I" expected them to murder Oswego in such an important game.    I didn't see the problem to be coaching.  He tried everything and most of the "key" performers came up with poor efforts.  they didn't look like they wanted to play. Their bench cheerleaders got weaker and weaker during the 2nd half as Oswego pulled away.  Totally deflated and no heart.

[magicman]

Cards,

When you come up for the 2nd round game on Sat. remind me to talk to you about the quote feature.

[magicman]

Final East Region Rankings as I see it.

1. Plattsburgh State NCAA Sweet 16 SUNYAC Champs-Nationally ranked all year
2. Univ. of Rochester NCAA Sweet 16- Nationally ranked all year
3. Nazareth NCAA Bid Empire 8 Champs
4. Brockport State ECAC Upstate NY Champs
5. Stevens Tech ECAC Metro Champs

[scooterman]

magic--I cant argue the facts with you--I wish that Bport would have been in the E8 then it would have been an automatic bid for them!!!

[FisherDynasty]

How so they only beat fisher by 1 and fisher didnt win the E8.  sorry scooter but your bport just didnt have the juice this year.

[scooterman]

Does anybody know why Ithaca and some of the other E8 teams did not make the ECAC? Did they choose not to go? I know Ithaca won it or in the finals a few years ago.

[UCgrad45]

Does anybody know why Ithaca and some of the other E8 teams did not make the ECAC? Did they choose not to go? I know Ithaca won it or in the finals a few years ago.

UC declined the invitation.

[thebear]

Does anybody know why Ithaca and some of the other E8 teams did not make the ECAC? Did they choose not to go? I know Ithaca won it or in the finals a few years ago.

There was also a problem with some of the teams already having used their 19 weeks for the season.  The NCAA has a rule that limits you to 19 weeks of practice/competition for basketball.  One day of practice in a week means you use the entire week.  The 19 weeks includes ECAC type tournaments, but NCAA tournament allows competition beyond the 19 week limit.

If you take a two full weeks off for finals/Christmas, you're typically OK, but if you come back on say a Sunday, and your week is Monday to Sunday, you use a whole week.

[jdex]

   Believe that was Ithaca's situation ...

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

First Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2011/02/02/ncaas-mens-regional-rankings/

[dcahill44]

Dave who is your preseason top 6 in the region you would predict

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

That is a tough call... can you give me the weekend? Neck deep with the inaugural Hoopsville National Invitational Classic .

[dcahill44]

Yes I will give you till monday

[buck1053]

So, I was looking at the regional rankings and the Massey ratings and I was curious about how that all shook out, as the Massey ratings have some teams higher than others, while the regional rankings don't reflect that same lineup. I'm assuming it's because the ratings are through this weekend's games and the rankings came out before that.

EAST                  
1   Rochester (N.Y.)   18-1   19-1         
2   SUNY Cortland   17-2   17-3         
3   Stevens Institute of Technology   15-3   17-3         
4   New York University   13-7   13-7         
5   Hobart   12-6   13-6         
6   SUNY Geneseo   14-6   14-7

Now, U of R is 20-2, having gone 1-1 since the rankings came out. Of course, the loss is out of region, against Wash U today, and the win is out of region as well, correct?
Cortland is 19-3, two wins in region
Stevens is 20-3, with their three wins all in region
NYU is 13-9, both of their losses were out of region, right?
Hobart is 16-6, their three wins are in region
Geneseo is 14-9, and both of their losses were in region.

Now, according to the latest Massey ratings, through Feb. 9, the top 10 teams in East, I believe (don't shoot me if I'm wrong, I don't usually try to figure such things out, but I was curious so I gave it a shot. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though) are:

1) U of R (Massey rating 6, sure to drop with today's loss by 19)
2) Cortland (21)
3) Stevens (48)
4) Hobart (60)
5) Union (74)
6) NYU (75)
7) Plattsburgh (78)
8) Oswego (87)
9) Ithaca (103)
10) Brockport (107)

Geneseo, which was sixth in the regional rankings, was 12th in the East in the Massey ratings at 128, behind Buffalo State which was rated 122nd.

I'm assuming the next regional rankings will have the same top 5, though, since U of R and NYU's games were out of region, right? And my other question is who the 6th team will be in the next rankings? I mean, according to Massey, it would be Union, but since their schedule strength is low, wouldn't Plattsburgh or Oswego seem more likely to get into the top 6?

Again, just curious how this is all shaking out. I appreciate the enlightenment from the much more informed board members.

[lileyes]

Actually all conference games are in regions games.