FB: New England Small College Athletic Conference

[NESCACFball24/7]

Ok, thanks for bringing me up to speed. As I said, I am out of my league here.

Forgive my skepticism on this.

My take is Lutz didn't got to Delaware because they offered him Nil money and Helbig didn't go to Wake because he got paid. Those guys jumped at the lifetime chance to play big time college football on kind of a walk on deal.......while obtaining a PG degree. Are you saying they were recruited and offered cash to do it??....sorry I don't buy it.  Again, tell me where I'm wrong here.

They may not have gone for the NIL money but nobody on those FBS rosters are not getting paid at all. From my understanding is lutz was on scholarhsip the whole time and got paid his second year as his playing time increased. Delaware isn't exactly big time college football but I get your point. Helbig was given money from the beginning. Richardson was givne money from the beginning as well. Nobody is saying they were by any means the highest paid on the team but you don't get multiple FBS offers in the portal and not have money thrown at you as part of it. From what ive been told by people at tufts there were schools offering Richardson money to leave before he even entered the portal. In all of those cases they had multiple scholarship offers to go other places.

[lumbercat]

OK -  I'm just doubtful here that there is anything substantial going to these NESCAC transfers beyond tuition, room and board and maybe a modest living allowance.  I Don't buy the cash thing.
 
I base my points on the conclusions I have been able on deduce on the whole NIL thing--

At several D1 schools there is a well documented level of tension between guys on the same team or unit playing next to each other in programs where some guys are being paid big money where other players aren't. They are saying this is prevalent and will impact programs and teams moving forward.

So, why would UCLA or Delaware or any other program pay cash to D3 transfers when so many established D1 players on the same team are getting little or nothing.

I think you have at least some of this wrong.

[NESCACFball24/7]

OK -  I'm just doubtful here that there is anything substantial going to these NESCAC transfers beyond tuition, room and board and maybe a modest living allowance.  I Don't buy the cash thing.
 
I base my points on the conclusions I have been able on deduce on the whole NIL thing--

At several D1 schools there is a well documented level of tension between guys on the same team or unit playing next to each other in programs where some guys are being paid big money where other players aren't. They are saying this is prevalent and will impact programs and teams moving forward.

So, why would UCLA or Delaware or any other program pay cash to D3 transfers when so many established D1 players on the same team are getting little or nothing.

I think you have at least some of this wrong.

If USC for example wanted richardson. They would see that he had 20+ other FBS offers and use NIl as another reason to have him go to their school over another. Its a pretty simple transaction. I dont understand the confusion.

Transfers often receive more than kids already on the team because they are filling a need. It is not normal for a d1 school to take a d3 kid out of the portal so when they do its for a reason. Players coming from lower levels are also often much more ok taking lower paydays compared to a p4 transfer because they likely were making little to nothing before and are also much more willing to play special teams etc. Either way two players on the same team have the same contract structured the same way.

I think for a nescac fan the amount of money flowing through these programs is hard to grasp. It is absolutely not outside of the norm to pay a 3rd stringer at a p4 school 30-50k. Starters making 300k+. Backups making 75-200k depeding on how much eligibility/potential they have.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/inside-the-college-football-nil-market-how-much-players-at-each-position-are-actually-getting-paid/

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46050629/college-football-2025-position-cost-transfers#wr

here two articles for context about the money since you are so flabergasted by this concept.

Richardson is the easiest most straighforward example because there is much more information on his recruitment out there. Not that it was the deciding factor but there is no way he chose USC over multiple other p4 offers without a payday being involved.

[lumbercat]

Ok I see what the top players are getting in the major programs, that's pretty well known.

Let me put it this way, with your knowledge of this how many guys on these 100+ man rosters in power 4 programs are being paid more than, say, $50,000 ?

[NESCACFball24/7]

Ok I see what the top players are getting in the major programs, that's pretty well known.

Let me put it this way, with your knowledge of this how many guys on these 100+ man rosters in power 4 programs are being paid more than, say, $50,000 ?

30k for a depth guy and up from there depending on eligibility remaining and potentional like I said. The new revenue sharing allows for 18.5 million divided amongst the team. In order to be competitive in recruiting most all p4 program are using the full amount. The scholarhsip limit at FBS is 85 so really only 85 player are getting paid plus 2-3 walk ons who have their scholarhips paid for out of the revenue sharing. Anybody in the 2 deep is almost definetely making more than 50k. Freshman, regardless of the depth chart on these rosters are often making more than older guys who are 2s or 3s simply because the schools had to pay to get the freshman there in the first place.

FYI I have multiple players going through the recruiting process out of high school right now as well and have had to be apart of many of these conversations between them schools and their families.

[lumbercat]

Ok Thanks

But am I right that not every program is not committing the same amount to this. They have proposed a cap because the biggest programs are sending exponentially more than others.


I'm curious and befuddled on this. I'm going to reach out to friends in the BC program as well. I know things have changed significantly but I'll get a grasp on it.

Thanks for bringing me up to speed.