MBB: North Coast Athletic Conference

[AndersDY]

Then you get the fans acting in a ridiculous way to get on TV. 

Granted I haven't been to a game in Timken in 4 years, but unless the student section has cut back severely, I'm sure they already employ theatrics enough to attract a camera crew if there happened to be TV coverage of the game.

[woosterbooster]

I was referring to Glenmont, Ohio; a tiny hamlet in Holmes County, more or less halfway between Wooster and Gambier. Not my best joke, I grant you.

Not a bad joke at all, for an opera fan...  

[WooMix]

My ride from the Dupont Circle to Silver Spring was over before I knew it.  Had I not needed a bathrrom break, I wud've gone all the way to Glenmont.   

Oh come on, the subway doesn't go anywhere near Glenmont.  It doesn't even reach Killbuck! 

Hahaha ...  I live here man.  I know where the Metro goes.  Check out the Metro map at this link:

http://www.wmata.com/metrorail/systemmap.cfm

Unless there is another Glenmont somewhere that I don't know about or maybe when you we here last, the Metro didn't go that far?  You know how they keep extending the lines and adding new ones?

I was referring to Glenmont, Ohio; a tiny hamlet in Holmes County, more or less halfway between Wooster and Gambier.  Not my best joke, I grant you. 

Ahhh, that must be one of those small towns.  My favorite small Ohio town in Fredricksburg.  I drove through it one day when I was checking out the Amish people.  Thats how I discovered Millersburg too.  As it turned out, Millersburg has some nice restaurants too. 

[David Collinge]

Smeds, I think we may be arguing past each other to a large degree.  Let me put it this way:  If D3hoops.com started a television network and broadcast D3 games, I'd be it's first subscriber.  If TV came to D3 on D3's terms I'd be ecstatic.  But that is (emphatically) not how I see ESPN doing things. 

Those late-night crowds at OVC games might have been spirited and rocking, but that's not supposed to be the point of D3 athletics.  It's academics first, and conducting a college-sponsored event that is guaranteed to go into the wee hours of a weekday morning is not what we're supposed to be about.  (I grant you, the students take on this initiative themselves; I myself skipped many a class because of late night indiscretions--but I put myself in the way of that harm, the college did not put me there.)

[Salem, VA]

I agree with Dave ESPN is not going in that direction at all.  If D3 hoops had a TV network I would be right behind Dave

[Li'l Giant]

My worry wouldn't be that we'd get a jackhole like Vitale, it's that we'd get someone like Pam Ward who while broadcasting a game at "Texas State" this year called them "Texas Southern". How long would it take you to hear them call you guys "Woo-ster" ("uuu") before you got upset? Or like the one that jacked up Allegheny in 2003 for the football selection show.

I'd be less worried about the potential for sideshow than the potential that they'd look like they were just humoring us; which they would be doing.

Showing high school games over DIII games isn't about the relative talent/competition levels; It's about watching the "next" King James (praise be his name!); which isn't likely to happen in a DIII game.

[smedindy]

That aside, I think Pam Ward is a great broadcaster. I've been quite impressed with how she calls the college game.

And if they did more D-3 games they'd have to get with the program. The 'Gheny thing was a malaprop, that happens to all broadcasters.

[billy_pilgrim]

A quick aside on Pam Ward first. Really, I don't hate women as some of my posts my lead people to believe. Two of my favorite professors (one in journalism and one in English) were women. Three of my favorite teachers from high school were women. My favorite professor thus far in grad school is a woman. And I love my mother and my fiancee very much.

Having said that, Pam Ward is simply the worst major college football announcer that I've ever had to endure. Having my beloved Nittany Lions relegated to the noon ESPN2 games for the better part of three years, I have listened to plenty of Pam Ward. No one gets more names wrong. Ever. Even as Penn State was climbing the Big Ten standings this season, she never could get Derrick Williams, JUstin King, Deon Butler and Michael Robinson (PSU's top 4 skill players) straightened out. To top off the obvious problem, she never shows one bit of excitement. She absolutely deadpanned a 3rd and 15 touchdown that gave Penn State a final second win at Northwestern. Just imagine her treatment of James Cooper's 3-point shot a month back against Witt.

"Here's Conley out front. He shoots. (Crowd cheers for 11 seconds as Pam tries to remember who's playing). Justin Cooper sends the Tiger fans home happy."

I can't take it anymore. Musburger, Vitale, Mike Patrick, Spielman and a host of others tempt me to hit the mute button. Pam Ward nearly leads me to rip my ears away from my head.


I can live with high school basketball on ESPN. Especially if it involves Greg Oden and LN. Watching the defenseless charade known as the New York public league a couple of years ago on ESPN was ridiculous. However, high ranking high school teams with legitimate star players are always welcome on ESPN original or the deuce. Now, I do have a major problem with ESPNU showing anything other than college sports. I really thought this channel would bring D-2 and D-3 basketball to the forefront. Nope, nothing yet.

However, even more than showing a Grinnell game or some bitter rivalry, I'd rest easy just knowing that some of the national tournament were to be shown on live television. Not just the Final Four from Salem, but some of the earlier rounds. I know that regular ESPN and the Deuce are worrying about the men's NIT and that God forsaken women's tournament. Does anyone know what's been committed to ESPNU for that same time period?

And again: I love women and kittens. I just hate Pam Ward's voice and girls dribbling.

[Li'l Giant]

See it's not just Wabash guys...

That thing about Pam Ward misidentifying Texas State really got my goat. It's all over the stadium. How do you miss that? You're in San Marcos, Texas. Texas Southern is in HOUSTON! Quite a difference. Nice small town in Central Texas compared to the 9th Circle of Hell.

I think they send her to the games that they really don't want anyone to watch. Or at least listen to.

That being said, I know its not an easy job, and she's not the only announcer that annoys me. I really wish they would just run an alternate audio like a DVD does with languages so you could just listen to the crowd noise, band, and PA announcer without the commentary.

[earlhamalum]

Pam Ward... I'm sorry, but when I'm watching sports the last thing I want to hear is a Woman's Voice.  I could careless if she was so damn good at it, and got every name right.  I hear her and I feel like I'm only seconds away from my G/f or Mother telling me what to do.  Heck even on my navigational system in my car it is a woman's voice... so I opt to put both on MUTE!

Does anyone know if Wabash has an internet broadcast of the game?  I'm not sure if I can take another night of Earlham's Teamline... Assuming they are not at the Woman's game or last Saturday when they didn't do either! 

[sac]

I wonder if Pam knows she's being ripped on D3hoops.com.

I'd take her over Mushmouth in a second.

Face it D3 is only interesting to ESPN if its a novelty like that crap for basketball they play at Grinnell.

But I do applaud their efforts televising the D3 football title game..........maybe someday they'll pick up basketball game as well.  But since the D3 Final coincides witht the first round of the NCAA tournament every year......not likely.

We'll have D3 basketball all to ourselves.

[woosterbooster]

Heck, I wouldn't even mind watching a good DIII game after the fact.  Hope is playing Calving tonight, and it's being televised locally on one of their regional PBS stations, KTVU.  I asked them if they could possibly archive it, but they're not.  It would be great if some Hope fan could record the video and get it up on the net.

[smedindy]

I'm sorry, but a lot of the other clowns are much, much worse than Pam Ward. She does the ESPN 2 Big 10 games which draw a big rating. Some of the other idiots are, well, idiots, but she is not.

[smedindy]

Yes, the Wabash student station is broadcasting the game and it should be live on the air via the web.

[billy_pilgrim]

Halftime in Crawfordsville:

Wabash 32,
Earlham 30

I've been listening for about 10 minutes, neither team has led by more than 5.