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y_jack_lok

Webster recovers from its three-point shooting woes, going 7-15 in a tightly contested game at Spalding in which there were more ties and lead changes than I care to count. Gorloks prevail 71-69 on a hoop by Charles Nelson with three seconds left. Justin Ugo was back in the lineup for Webster after missing a few games.

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y_jack_lok

Thursday night's MUW at Webster is one of the D3 Datacast pick-em games this week. According to their computer Webster is a nine point favorite. If you were picking against that line, who would you pick? As for me, I've learned my lesson and won't venture a guess -- at least not publicly.

hopefan

Yep... Is it Webster, and everyone else.... or do we have a 3 horse race with Webster, Lyon and MUW?

We will find out tonight and Saturday.....
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

y_jack_lok

Quote from: hopefan on January 22, 2026, 02:53:38 PMYep... Is it Webster, and everyone else.... or do we have a 3 horse race with Webster, Lyon and MUW?

We will find out tonight and Saturday.....

Saturday's game vs Lyon has been postponed due to impending weather. Make up date is Tuesday 2/3.

y_jack_lok

Quote from: y_jack_lok on January 19, 2026, 05:33:37 PMThursday night's MUW at Webster is one of the D3 Datacast pick-em games this week. According to their computer Webster is a nine point favorite. If you were picking against that line, who would you pick? As for me, I've learned my lesson and won't venture a guess -- at least not publicly.

Webster wins 74-67. MUW covers the D3 Datacast spread

hopefan

Not many follow the lower level D3 conferences on a routine basis... but even though I'm retired in Florida, I keep up with my favorite conference the SLIAC
AND WHAT AN INCREDIBLE NIGHT LAST NIGHT!!!

3 games, 3 upsets   conference contenders MUW and Lyon lose at Greenville and Spalding... and Westminster has to be feeling low after losing to Principia, who they had beaten by 36 earlier in the season....

All 3 of last night's games were close.....I miss going to those games....  I have many negative opinions about my local D2 Eckerd team. I've quit paying to see a badly underperforming team...
The only thing not to be liked in Florida is no D3 hoops!!!

y_jack_lok

^^^ And Webster had all it could handle at Blackburn on Wednesday. Fortunate to come away with a W. Gorloks have today off before hosting Lyon on Tuesday for the previously scheduled game that was snowed out. Feeling badly for Lyon, who have to return to AK after today's game vs Greenville, then turn around and come back.

hopefan

So here is the ugly truth..

Webster is running away with the conference championship...they could finish 23-2, 16-0

BUT... what happens if they get upset in the conference tourney... highly unlikely that they will get a NCAA tourney bid

What happens if they run the table... they get the tourney bid... but get sent anywhere.. CCIW, Wisconsin, down the street to Wash U... to face a top seed and while carrying "this is the year" hopes and expectations, most likely end their season with a double digit loss.

I have offered this thought in the past, and offer it again.... expand to 68 teams... have that mini-playin round to give the little guys a real shot at a win... D1 can do it, why not D3.... the lessers deserve it...
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y_jack_lok

Quote from: hopefan on Today at 08:02:09 AMSo here is the ugly truth..

Webster is running away with the conference championship...they could finish 23-2, 16-0

BUT... what happens if they get upset in the conference tourney... highly unlikely that they will get a NCAA tourney bid

Webster is currently at #75 with an NPI of 57.953, so pretty close to a zero chance that they will get an at-large if they don't win the SLIAC tourney. Also, going 16-0 in conference is still going to be tough with three of four games on the road to conclude the season, and the home game being Greenville, who they were lucky to beat earlier. The final two games are at Lyon and MUW, who are #2 and #3 in the standings and who played the Gorloks tough in Grant gym. And I'm not overlooking tonight's game at Eureka. Anything can happen.

WUPHF

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Quote from: hopefan on Today at 08:02:09 AMSo here is the ugly truth..

Webster is running away with the conference championship...they could finish 23-2, 16-0

BUT... what happens if they get upset in the conference tourney... highly unlikely that they will get a NCAA tourney bid

What happens if they run the table... they get the tourney bid... but get sent anywhere.. CCIW, Wisconsin, down the street to Wash U... to face a top seed and while carrying "this is the year" hopes and expectations, most likely end their season with a double digit loss.

I have offered this thought in the past, and offer it again.... expand to 68 teams... have that mini-playin round to give the little guys a real shot at a win... D1 can do it, why not D3.... the lessers deserve it...

I do not share your pessimism or your interest in play-in games.

Too complicated, too expensive, not a Division III thing to do.  And with so much parity, do they really have a substantially better shot against Carthage than Stevens Point?

Webster had a real shot against Nebraska Wesleyan and Illinois Wesleyan, Fontbonne had a shot against the eventual national champions in Trine.  Just gotta enjoy the ride.  I imagine the players do.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: WUPHF on Today at 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: hopefan on Today at 08:02:09 AMSo here is the ugly truth..

Webster is running away with the conference championship...they could finish 23-2, 16-0

BUT... what happens if they get upset in the conference tourney... highly unlikely that they will get a NCAA tourney bid

What happens if they run the table... they get the tourney bid... but get sent anywhere.. CCIW, Wisconsin, down the street to Wash U... to face a top seed and while carrying "this is the year" hopes and expectations, most likely end their season with a double digit loss.

I have offered this thought in the past, and offer it again.... expand to 68 teams... have that mini-playin round to give the little guys a real shot at a win... D1 can do it, why not D3.... the lessers deserve it...

I do not share your pessimism or your interest in play-in games.

Too complicated, too expensive, not a Division III thing to do.  And with so much parity, do they really have a substantially better shot against Carthage than Stevens Point?

Webster had a real shot against Nebraska Wesleyan and Illinois Wesleyan, Fontbonne had a shot against the eventual national champions in Trine.

... and Greenville was within five points of CCIW champion Augustana in Rock Island in 2018 with seven minutes to go before the Panthers faded down the stretch. There were a lot of nervous Augie fans in the Carver P.E. Center that night, and everybody who watched that game either in person or online (as I did) came away very impressed by Greenville.

Totally agree that expansion to a 68-team tourney would be too complicated, too expensive, and not a D3 thing to do. There's also the matter of it not being a prudent gesture in an uncertain era in which the financiers of D3 national tournaments and meets -- the big D1 schools -- may decide at some point to stop bankrolling the national postseason competition among the little guys. Setting the cap on D3 tournaments at 64 was a signal to the D1 movers and shakers that D3 would not get too greedy and try to wheedle more than the 4.19% of D1 income that the NCAA allots to D3 every year. Because what I think you're forgetting, Scott, is that if men's basketball gets 68 slots, then every sponsored sport -- softball, baseball, men's soccer, women's soccer, whatever -- that has the maximum participation ratio in D3 gets to have 68 slots as well. Them's the rules as far as the NCAA is concerned: no sport gets a bigger share of the pie, participation-wise, than the others.

I would enjoy a 68-team tourney as much as any other D3 fan. But it will never happen, and the reasons why make sense.
"When it comes to life, the critical thing is whether you take things for granted or take them with gratitude." ― G.K. Chesterton

WUPHF

Quote from: Gregory Sager on Today at 01:23:49 PM... and Greenville was within five points of CCIW champion Augustana in Rock Island in 2018 with seven minutes to go before the Panthers faded down the stretch. There were a lot of nervous Augie fans in the Carver P.E. Center that night, and everybody who watched that game either in person or online (as I did) came away very impressed by Greenville.

Thanks Greg and I'll add that Westminster played Washington University very close in 2008-2009, finishing within single digits.  Spalding took the Bears to OT a few years later.

Patrick Coleman

Quote from: Gregory Sager on Today at 01:23:49 PMSetting the cap on D3 tournaments at 64 was a signal to the D1 movers and shakers that D3 would not get too greedy and try to wheedle more than the 4.19% of D1 income that the NCAA allots to D3 every year.

Sadly, it's even less: 3.18%.
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Quote from: Patrick Coleman on Today at 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on Today at 01:23:49 PMSetting the cap on D3 tournaments at 64 was a signal to the D1 movers and shakers that D3 would not get too greedy and try to wheedle more than the 4.19% of D1 income that the NCAA allots to D3 every year.

Sadly, it's even less: 3.18%.

Yes, that's right. I'm not sure where I got 4.19%. Serves me right for hitting "Reply" without checking it first.
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