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Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

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Can I just point out how absolutely absurd it is for Josh Fridman to be named a preseason all american? As a freshman, he averaged under 10ppg and 2.5apg (somehow winning national ROTY over Connor May and others). Last year, not even making it to conference, and averaged under 8ppg. The bias towards IWU is evident, and I'm sure there are other players on that roster who are more deserving of a preseason AA award. There's no doubt that Fridman is a good and winning player, but putting him this high up on a pedestal this early seems a bit extreme. At the end of the day, it's only preseason, and we'll see how this plays out.

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Can I just point out how absolutely absurd it is for Josh Fridman to be named a preseason all american? As a freshman, he averaged under 10ppg and 2.5apg (somehow winning national ROTY over Connor May and others). Last year, not even making it to conference, and averaged under 8ppg. The bias towards IWU is evident, and I'm sure there are other players on that roster who are more deserving of a preseason AA award. There's no doubt that Fridman is a good and winning player, but putting him this high up on a pedestal this early seems a bit extreme. At the end of the day, it's only preseason, and we'll see how this plays out.

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Entirely fair.  Everything you've said is true.  He's getting a lot of benefit of the doubt coming off an injury.

I will ask how many of his games have you watched?  Especially at the PG position, there's a lot of impact that doesn't show up in the stats.  I can't recall very many games in which he was not the best or maybe second best player on the floor.

Also, I'm 100% confident Conner May would've been above him on this list if he'd come back.
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Agreed on Connor May. Helps to have an extra season under his belt in that hypothetical comparison.

I suspect the NY Hoops Guru is thinking about someone else rather than Connor May, regardless.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

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Using Josh Fridman's 2025-26 stats as proof of something is a little silly as well -- he got into 6 games, one of which he played 2 minutes before leaving with his season-ending injury. The two games before that, IWU won by an average of 55 points and he played 33 minutes total between those two games, 35 minutes over three games.

That doesn't seem like three games to us, and it's a case where maybe it's OK to dig a little deeper before the "gotcha" moment.
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