MBB: Old Dominion Athletic Conference

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Seatfiller

Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Quakers top a tough Roanoke squad tonight in Greensboro, 75-71.  The Maroons had a 9-point first half lead and an 8-point second half lead, but couldn't hold it.  GC improves to 15-5, 9-2 while RC falls to 9-10, 3-8.
I watched the game and you pretty much hit he nail on the head.  I can't remember how many times we've been up late and couldn't pull it out, I have to admit I'm glad we didn't get ran out of the gym like we normally do at Guilford.

algernon

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Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: donho on February 05, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
VWC and HSC both on the short end of the scoreboard tonight.
Both of these are struggling at  a bad time of the season.
I think it's now safe to say HSC has no shot at an at-large bid ... the Tigers will have to win the ODAC tournament to get in the NCAAs.

No doubt about it.  No Pool C for the Tigers.  The best record they could have if they don't win the tournament would be 19-10.

To get a Pool C, I think that Guilford would need to win the rest of their regular season games.  After a loss in the tournament, they'd still be 21-6 or 22-6.  Otherwise, they'd be 20-7 or 21-7, with no particularly high quality wins, except for the early season win over RMC and I'm not sure that'd be good enough.

Lynchburg's in the same boat, needing to probably win the rest of their regular season games.

VWC is in a better position to lose another regular season game and still maybe get a Pool C bid, given their stronger SOS.

Although I think there are 4-5 teams who could knock RMC out of the tournament, they certainly look like the favorite to win the AQ bid.  And, unless they really fall apart over the next 5 games, their chances for a Pool C bid, as an alternative to winning the tournament, are solid.


hscathletics

Congratulations to Khobi Williamson for scoring his 1,000th career point tonight!

ODACATS

Congrats to 'Mike E. for 3' (it's easier than spelling his last name) on becoming the third player in Randolph's brief men's basketball history to reach 1,000 points. Way to go Mike.

hasanova

Congratulations to all who've just joined the 1000-point Club ... a nice achievement for any college player.

hasanova

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Quote from: Seatfiller on February 05, 2014, 10:27:26 PM
Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
Quakers top a tough Roanoke squad tonight in Greensboro, 75-71.  The Maroons had a 9-point first half lead and an 8-point second half lead, but couldn't hold it.  GC improves to 15-5, 9-2 while RC falls to 9-10, 3-8.
I watched the game and you pretty much hit he nail on the head.  I can't remember how many times we've been up late and couldn't pull it out, I have to admit I'm glad we didn't get ran out of the gym like we normally do at Guilford.
Even though GC's won 15 games, many of them have been very close ... OT or less than 5 points.  The E&H game was the only win I can remember that was never in doubt.  When we lose, however, it usually isn't pretty.  I can see a big improvement in the Maroons ... last year I think GC won 76-48.  Good luck the rest of the season ... hope you finish over .500 ... that's a key motivator for a team's future success.

hasanova

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Quote from: algernon on February 05, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: donho on February 05, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
VWC and HSC both on the short end of the scoreboard tonight.
Both of these are struggling at  a bad time of the season.
I think it's now safe to say HSC has no shot at an at-large bid ... the Tigers will have to win the ODAC tournament to get in the NCAAs.

No doubt about it.  No Pool C for the Tigers.  The best record they could have if they don't win the tournament would be 19-10.

To get a Pool C, I think that Guilford would need to win the rest of their regular season games.  After a loss in the tournament, they'd still be 21-6 or 22-6.  Otherwise, they'd be 20-7 or 21-7, with no particularly high quality wins, except for the early season win over RMC and I'm not sure that'd be good enough.

Lynchburg's in the same boat, needing to probably win the rest of their regular season games.

VWC is in a better position to lose another regular season game and still maybe get a Pool C bid, given their stronger SOS.

Although I think there are 4-5 teams who could knock RMC out of the tournament, they certainly look like the favorite to win the AQ bid.  And, unless they really fall apart over the next 5 games, their chances for a Pool C bid, as an alternative to winning the tournament, are solid.
"If" GC wins the rest of their regular season games and loses in the ODAC tournament, that would also mean wins over LC on the road and VWC at home ... but I have to mostly agree with your logic about a lack high profile wins.

tigerfanalso

It has certainly been one of those years for HSC. Lots of games could have gone our way but didn't. I guess thats a sign of a very competitive league. Good luck to all on Saturday.

algernon

Quote from: hasanova on February 06, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
Quote from: algernon on February 05, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
To get a Pool C, I think that Guilford would need to win the rest of their regular season games.  After a loss in the tournament, they'd still be 21-6 or 22-6.  Otherwise, they'd be 20-7 or 21-7, with no particularly high quality wins, except for the early season win over RMC and I'm not sure that'd be good enough.
"If" GC wins the rest of their regular season games and loses in the ODAC tournament, that would also mean wins over LC on the road and VWC at home ... but I have to mostly agree with your logic about a lack high profile wins.

What I was trying to say is that, if they win the rest of their regular season games but lose a semifinal to, say, VWC or RMC, they finish 21-6 and have a win over both VWC and RMC, which would be reasonably good credentials for a Pool C.

On the other hand, if they lose to VWC during the regular season and lose another in the tournament semifinal, they'd be only 20-7 and they'd just have the early-season victory over RMC, and my guess is that wouldn't end up being good enough.

The Quakers probably have to either win the rest of their regular season games before a loss in the tournament, or they need to win 4 of their last 5 regular season games, get a good win in the tournament semifinal, and then play real close in the tournament final.  That's my sense of where they sit for a Pool CID.

donho

Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: donho on February 05, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
VWC and HSC both on the short end of the scoreboard tonight.
Both of these are struggling at  a bad time of the season.
I think it's now safe to say HSC has no shot at an at-large bid ... the Tigers will have to win the ODAC tournament to get in the NCAAs.
Nova I think that at large bid was gone after they went to 11-7.

hasanova

Quote from: donho on February 06, 2014, 11:08:39 AM
Quote from: hasanova on February 05, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: donho on February 05, 2014, 09:04:20 PM
VWC and HSC both on the short end of the scoreboard tonight.
Both of these are struggling at  a bad time of the season.
I think it's now safe to say HSC has no shot at an at-large bid ... the Tigers will have to win the ODAC tournament to get in the NCAAs.
Nova I think that at large bid was gone after they went to 11-7.
I think you're right, but I also think there were some HSC fans still holding on to hope.

hasanova

Quote from: algernon on February 06, 2014, 10:58:36 AM
Quote from: hasanova on February 06, 2014, 08:02:40 AM
Quote from: algernon on February 05, 2014, 11:17:43 PM
To get a Pool C, I think that Guilford would need to win the rest of their regular season games.  After a loss in the tournament, they'd still be 21-6 or 22-6.  Otherwise, they'd be 20-7 or 21-7, with no particularly high quality wins, except for the early season win over RMC and I'm not sure that'd be good enough.
"If" GC wins the rest of their regular season games and loses in the ODAC tournament, that would also mean wins over LC on the road and VWC at home ... but I have to mostly agree with your logic about a lack high profile wins.

What I was trying to say is that, if they win the rest of their regular season games but lose a semifinal to, say, VWC or RMC, they finish 21-6 and have a win over both VWC and RMC, which would be reasonably good credentials for a Pool C.

On the other hand, if they lose to VWC during the regular season and lose another in the tournament semifinal, they'd be only 20-7 and they'd just have the early-season victory over RMC, and my guess is that wouldn't end up being good enough.

The Quakers probably have to either win the rest of their regular season games before a loss in the tournament, or they need to win 4 of their last 5 regular season games, get a good win in the tournament semifinal, and then play real close in the tournament final.  That's my sense of where they sit for a Pool CID.
That's the way I see it also ... sounds about right.

donho

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 I think the only way Lynchburg plays after the ODAC tourney is to win the thing. They have beaten only one team with a 500 or better record and that team is sitting at 11-10. Not a very tough schedule. Now understand, I am not knocking them as they after all have won 15 games. Just dont think that will get them in the NCAA's.

hscathletics

Quote from: donho on February 06, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
I think the only way Lynchburg plays after the ODAC tourney is to win the thing. They have beaten only one team with a 500 or better record and that team is sitting at 11-10. Not a very tough schedule. Now understand, I am not knocking them as they after all have won 15 games. Just dont think that will get them in the NCAA's.
Did you mean to say beaten only one non-conference team with a 500 or better record? They have wins vs. EMU (11-9), Shenandoah (12-8), Washington & Jefferson (11-10), Randolph (12-8), and Hampden-Sydney (11-9).

hasanova

Quote from: hscathletics on February 06, 2014, 08:33:31 PM
Quote from: donho on February 06, 2014, 01:55:44 PM
I think the only way Lynchburg plays after the ODAC tourney is to win the thing. They have beaten only one team with a 500 or better record and that team is sitting at 11-10. Not a very tough schedule. Now understand, I am not knocking them as they after all have won 15 games. Just dont think that will get them in the NCAA's.
Did you mean to say beaten only one non-conference team with a 500 or better record? They have wins vs. EMU (11-9), Shenandoah (12-8), Washington & Jefferson (11-10), Randolph (12-8), and Hampden-Sydney (11-9).
Good question ... I made that observation also.