MBB: NESCAC

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SpringSt7

No surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.
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Sabrina76

Hixon, I believe, has stated that Rehnquist was the best he'd seen. Rick Wilson, who was the coach from the 50's to Quist's last year 1977, was quoted in the Springfield paper that Rehnquist was the best shooter he ever had but Dave Auten was the best player. Hard to compare eras, teams and rules (no 3 pointers for Auten and Rehnquist though both were great shooters). Oscar to me is still a great. He played in the days when traveling was a violation.

SpringSt7

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.

Then it should be Vetter 1st and Okorougo 2nd. Another stupid rule, once again.

D3BBALL

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.
Takes away the validity of the teams and strength of conferences

D3BBALL

Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.

Then it should be Vetter 1st and Okorougo 2nd. Another stupid rule, once again.
100% agree, one of them has to be on the first team.

blue_jays

Quote from: D3BBALL on March 18, 2026, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.

Then it should be Vetter 1st and Okorougo 2nd. Another stupid rule, once again.
100% agree, one of them has to be on the first team.

I am always unimpressed by coaches orgs when it comes to All-American teams, they constantly get it wrong and usually in laughable ways (don't get me started on the soccer coaches org...).

Perfect example this year: WashU gets a player on 3rd team, and UChicago's Shane Regan is nowhere to be found on the list. What a joke. Regan has carried the Maroons to a top 10 ranking all season long, even a brief stint at #1, and advanced them to the Elite 8 for the second time ever. He is the straw that stirs the drink on that team. He has single-handedly won them multiple big games this year. Regan has been a national POTY type player, but apparently not good enough for NABC... I get it, WashU has name recognition in basketball, but frankly they underachieved this year compared to their hype (also 8-6 in UAA play). Regan takes UChicago from good to great.

nescac1

NABC all-American teams are never a true reflection of the very best players (no disrespect, these are all still great players!). The D3hoops teams are far better.  Ben Pearce not being first team is also pretty nuts I'd say ...

NEhoops

A few other players to recognize:

Colin Tabb: Trinity   
Steve Zieja/Andrew Schiel: Amherst        
Ben Rudin: Middlebury - he deserves credit for taking that program to the next level. His senior year (08-09) was the first of five straight seasons of 24+ wins. 
Troy Whittington - Williams

Crazy to think that Sam Clark at Colby (00-01) was the NESCAC player of the year but wasn't an All-American.

Interesting reporting regarding Rutigliano. Seems unnecessary for an assistant role. No matter how it plays out, it's not helpful for him retaining/recruiting players.

D3BBALL

Quote from: blue_jays on March 18, 2026, 06:55:19 PM
Quote from: D3BBALL on March 18, 2026, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 06:12:32 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.

Then it should be Vetter 1st and Okorougo 2nd. Another stupid rule, once again.
100% agree, one of them has to be on the first team.

I am always unimpressed by coaches orgs when it comes to All-American teams, they constantly get it wrong and usually in laughable ways (don't get me started on the soccer coaches org...).

Perfect example this year: WashU gets a player on 3rd team, and UChicago's Shane Regan is nowhere to be found on the list. What a joke. Regan has carried the Maroons to a top 10 ranking all season long, even a brief stint at #1, and advanced them to the Elite 8 for the second time ever. He is the straw that stirs the drink on that team. He has single-handedly won them multiple big games this year. Regan has been a national POTY type player, but apparently not good enough for NABC... I get it, WashU has name recognition in basketball, but frankly they underachieved this year compared to their hype (also 8-6 in UAA play). Regan takes UChicago from good to great.
Great Example, Regan not on any team is a joke!!

Painter66

As an old time Midd player and lifetime follower, I have watched almost every game that Sobel and Sharry played. Both were just great, but very different. At his peak, Sobel was dominating. No doubt. Ryan not only lifted the program to new heights, with the help of a great cast of players, he was just the best player I ever saw at my alma mater. He did it all, and had us twice within range of a shot at the title. He is my pick.

Patrick Coleman

Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 18, 2026, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: SpringSt7 on March 18, 2026, 05:40:53 PMNo surprises on NABC All Americans but I will say, with all due respect to Endicott, who had an awesome season, if they can get a 1st team and a 2nd teamer, Trinity should have a 2nd teamer and a 3rd Teamer. Vetter 2nd team is well deserved but no Okorougo anywhere is wrong.

NABC just does one player per region per team.

Two of the best three players in Region 2 played for Endicott? I believe it.

Because of the way the NABC does their All-America team, that means they have two All-Americans. We do not have such rigid rules and are willing to compare players from Region 2 with those from Region 1 or Region 7 or Region 9 or Region 5.
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Quote from: NEhoops on March 18, 2026, 07:38:23 PMA few other players to recognize:

Colin Tabb: Trinity   
Steve Zieja/Andrew Schiel: Amherst         
Ben Rudin: Middlebury - he deserves credit for taking that program to the next level. His senior year (08-09) was the first of five straight seasons of 24+ wins. 
Troy Whittington - Williams

Crazy to think that Sam Clark at Colby (00-01) was the NESCAC player of the year but wasn't an All-American.

Interesting reporting regarding Rutigliano. Seems unnecessary for an assistant role. No matter how it plays out, it's not helpful for him retaining/recruiting players.

Not sure through which publication but Sam Clark WAS in fact an All-American that year.

jumbomumbo

Good morning, NESCAC! May the best team win today and go on to cut down the nets.

SpringSt7

Best of luck to both teams tonight. I will, unfortunately, be choosing the D1s over Trinity-Tufts, will probably check in but feel like I've watched these two play 9 times in the last 3 years. Understand the idea and do think it will pay off exposure wise in the last 2 rounds but having these games on the first night of the tournament on ESPN+ is not ideal in my opinion. But I've been around long enough and I get it. Wish Trinity and Tufts were playing earlier, it is cool that they are doing standalones though.