MBB: NESCAC

Started by cameltime, April 27, 2005, 02:38:16 PM

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D3BBALL

Quote from: nescac1 on Today at 11:18:10 AMThis really could be one of the craziest and most uncertain NESCAC off-seasons we've had (or maybe just part for the course now in college hoops, this is nothing compared to the uncertainty D1 teams face basically every year):

Will Cuevas, Civello and Watson return or get picked up from the portal?  They are each critical, all-league players for teams in the middle of this year's standings.  And will anyone else test the portal (only a few more guys who really even could, realistically, at this point).  If they do not return, next year's all-league squad and POTY contenders looks as wide open as its ever been.   

Will Rutigliano and/or Linton end up moving up to D1, and if so, where does that leave those programs?

And it's already quite a transition year for NESCAC.  Trinity loses its top three guys and its top reserve from a core that has dominated the league for three years.  Are there young guys ready to step up who have been patiently waiting their turn?  Tufts will no matter what feature a very different look with its two star big guys graduating, but there is a lot of firepower on the perimeter returning.  Wesleyan is probably the most stable of the big three but does lose two starters including an all-league point guard as well as a steady sixth man who has been all-league in his career.  I think those three still go into next year as the co-favorites, but all of them will be very different teams who could easily fall back into the pack a bit. 

Amherst and Bates made big leaps and return some of the best players in the conference, but Amherst loses its two frontcourt starters from a pretty thin group and Bates loses its top shooters, also from a pretty thing group.  After both made their first tourney appearance in years, will that prove to be a one-year blip?

For Middlebury, do they make strides in the new coaching regime?  What does his first recruiting class look like?  Does Tristan Joseph return?  Can Williams rebound from an unusual two-year streak of erratic play (especially offensively) and look more like the Williams of old?  Can the Ephs find some guards who can score, and can they ever stay healthy for a full season?   

Hamilton and Bowdoin seem likely to be the bottom of the league (assuming Cuevas goes D1, which feels pretty safe to assume), but after that, I think it will be a wildly unpredictable year, especially if some of the coaches / players noted above do not return.

Overall, I'd be stunned if NESCAC runs up the type of non-league record next year that it would need to get five teams into the tourney.  Four might end up being a stretch as the league-wide NPI won't benefit (almost certainly) from three top-ten national teams next season.   

All good stuff, Jospeh from what I hear is not returning to Middlebury.

nescac1

el_jefe, I think you nailed it, both with best two-year run (Williams 2003 and 2004 in addition to the raw numbers featured a road win over D1 Holy Cross and wins over arch-rival Amherst both in the Elite 8 and Final Four, and the championship game they lost came down to a last-second shot), and best three-year run for Trinity. I think Trinity making three straight Final Fours AND a National Title AND three straight conference championships and by a fairly significant margin the best overall win-loss record of any three-year run is really unassailable, and can only ever be beaten by a team that wins back-to-back national titles.  They went down to the national title winner in their first Final Four and if the same happens this year, they can say that only the national champ was able to eliminate them from any tourney (NESCAC or NCAA) over three seasons. 

The other thing this Trinity class is definitely in the mix for is best ever single class in NESCAC. 

For that, you can look at 2004 Williams, 2008 Amherst, and 2026 Trinity.  Crotty/Coffin/Abba is absolutely elite, certainly the best 1-2 punch, but only three guys total hurts them.  Olson/Coulibaly/Goldsmith/Walters/Hopkins/Jones I think wins because they had a national POTY at the top and all the rest of those guys were at worst very good role players, just such crazy depth, and this Trinity class is right there with those two classes in terms of accolades.   

D3BBALL

Trinity has 7 pieces of hardware over 3 years, maybe that is the tie breaker??? If Trinity had beaten MW, I think that would have ended any discussion.

Also, with the transfer portal does it make it harder now, or easier. I would say harder both in terms of the new rules allowing anyone to transfer and play right away and then harder for teams to keep their best players.

NEhoops

el_jefe_90 – impressive stats on the best three year runs

toad22 – great insight on what makes a winning program.

How would you all rank/grade the current teams in the league based on the following:

Institutional support – budget/admissions 
Coaching – does the team get better throughout the season; able to make effective in game adjustments
Recruiting – relationship with the coaching staff; admissions and facilities play a role here
Facilities
Player development – what first years and sophomores are making big impacts as juniors and seniors

Great point about teams that end up practicing/playing more over the course of the season.