FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

I feel a Thomas Sowell quote about Utopianism coming on....

[Pat Coleman]

I saw Logan post that Wart got done a diservice, essentially treated like a 2 seed in their own quad. He might be right, but aside from NPI Wartburg just doesn't looke like a very elite 1 seed IMO given the stats above.

That said, the MIAC finds itself in 2 of the 3 toughest quadrants ever according to Logan's numbers. If we get anyone to the quarters or beyond we'll have earned it, great chance to reset the recent national narrative about the conference.

Results so far have done nothing to quiet the discontent with NPI. If anything, this bracket is proving to be even more lopsided than was suspected. NPI loved it some Wartburg, and they didn't survive first contact with a Wheaton team that lost 35-0 to NCC (NPI had Warburg above NCC). Obviously a big obstacle to clear this weekend but if I'm UWRF I can hardly believe my luck with what a mess that quad's turned out to be, and whoever gets out of there gets the winner of the clearly weakest quad in the semifinal.

NPI has its limitations but it also cuts both ways. Under the old system Wheaton is not in this field. Neither is UWlAX and possibly UWW, all 2 loss teams. Wheaton would not have had any regionally ranked wins (the old system) which favored 1 loss teams (win %) over most other criteria. NPI can be tweaked (NCC should NOT be the overall 4 seed) but so far it's an improvement over the subjective rankings of regional committees IMO.

Under the old system, with 40 teams, they definitely get some if not all three of those teams in the field.

[Mister36]

Albert Rundell and Jack Curtis representing MIAC in Gagliardi semi-finalists group

https://d3football.com/notables/2025/12/gagliardi-semifinalists-announced

[USee]

I saw Logan post that Wart got done a diservice, essentially treated like a 2 seed in their own quad. He might be right, but aside from NPI Wartburg just doesn't looke like a very elite 1 seed IMO given the stats above.

That said, the MIAC finds itself in 2 of the 3 toughest quadrants ever according to Logan's numbers. If we get anyone to the quarters or beyond we'll have earned it, great chance to reset the recent national narrative about the conference.

Results so far have done nothing to quiet the discontent with NPI. If anything, this bracket is proving to be even more lopsided than was suspected. NPI loved it some Wartburg, and they didn't survive first contact with a Wheaton team that lost 35-0 to NCC (NPI had Warburg above NCC). Obviously a big obstacle to clear this weekend but if I'm UWRF I can hardly believe my luck with what a mess that quad's turned out to be, and whoever gets out of there gets the winner of the clearly weakest quad in the semifinal.

NPI has its limitations but it also cuts both ways. Under the old system Wheaton is not in this field. Neither is UWlAX and possibly UWW, all 2 loss teams. Wheaton would not have had any regionally ranked wins (the old system) which favored 1 loss teams (win %) over most other criteria. NPI can be tweaked (NCC should NOT be the overall 4 seed) but so far it's an improvement over the subjective rankings of regional committees IMO.

Under the old system, with 40 teams, they definitely get some if not all three of those teams in the field.

Thanks for making my point. Under NPI we absolutely get all three into the field. The old system we might get "some if not all three". Also, the old system had 32 teams so they wouldn't all get in. Don't know what the old system with 40 teams looks like cuz it never happened so pure speculation.

The old system created too much uncertainty and worse, inconsistency, with the criteria for at large picks. Criteria were inconsistently interpreted and applied from region to region every year and it changed from one year to the next with different committee members. This system has its drawbacks (which are not equal to the old system) but we have all but eliminated inconsistency and uncertainty among who gets into the field.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah -- I'm just not going through the work of projecting out six regional rankings under the old system and figuring out how many end up in the 13 at-large teams. Could be all three.

Those three teams were 5th, 8th and 27th in SOS this year under the old formula. I bet they all get in.

[fredfalcon]

Duffman--No charge (thatI'm aware of) for tailgating. It happens in last 3 lanes on south side of parking lot.

[sju56321]

Well I know what it feels like to be a fan of any miac team other than bethel, going up against sju-no chance-kinda sucks but does open open Saturday afternoon!