FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sjusection105]

Oz, What lake are your folks in Pokegama, Sugar....? That area (Grand Rapids) the fishing, snowmobiling, cross country skiing is really a boom to the local economy. I hope it (poor ice) doesn't hurt the local economy too much this seasn.

Their place is north of town, but of course you can't put your house on your own lake.  The fishin's always better at your buddies place.  So you put your house out off his joint and he puts his out off yours...  But my dad's got the (new) house (always gotta have a new house) off Tioga beach right now, if you know the bays of Pokegama.  He spears, as that's the only winter fishing that really counts.

It's possible that the complaining about the ice may be more fancy than fact.  Unless it freezes in dead wind with no snow for two months so that there is 12'' of glass-like ice, then it's a bad winter.  And even then the ice is to thick to chainsaw, the ice is too slick for the truck and the snow doesn't stick, etc, etc, etc.

Reminds me of my old man. The movie "Grumpy Old Men" doesn't have anything on him

The minute he stops bitching and just sits in his chair quietly, my  mother asks if she should call the doctor or the undertaker because there must be something seriously wrong at that point

The darkhouse sub-culture certainly is a unique one. Not to say that ice fishing in itself isn't a sub-culture, just different than spearing.

[Johnnie Red]

I must be living right, or something to that effect. I was at a Christmas party last evening in Victoria. In walks a couple with Bethel University clothing on. Of course I had to introduce myself and mention that I was a Johnnie. Turns out they had just gotten back from the game at Mount Union. Their son is a Bethel player.

[Knightstalker]

Isn't Scotch an old man drink???

No, just a man drink, probably why you don't drink it.   

[janesvilleflash]

Don't worry TDT, I'll bring one of these for you.

Pink Pussy Cat


Ingredients
    2 ounces Campari
    1 ounce peach brandy
    Dash of egg white
    Chilled Collins mix (juice of 1 lemon, 1 teaspoon sugar, and soda)

Mix the Campari, peach brandy, and egg white with ice in a shaker, then strain into a Highball glass. Top up with Collins mix.

[Klopenhiemer]

Yep, ice is being made in central Minnesota with a couple nights below zero (Friday night/Saturday morning it was -11*F) I have seen many portable "clams" on the ice. I have yet to see any "condos" in my area, but a few more below zero nights & they'll be out as well.

Grainbelt is a good choice, but the official beer of MIACPP is Hamm's 

I was speaking to my pappy today.  My folks live up in Grand Rapids and he was telling me that they got about 12-14 inches of snow earlier this winter and it's ruined the freeze.  Apparently there is only about four inches of ice where where he has his fish house and only and inch where he wants to put it.  Lot's of slush along the lakeshores.

Hamms is a fine choice, but I honestly tell you that the icy cold Grainbelt is just sweet music to my lips.  I have tried the Hamms and do appreciate that beer.  I mean it is from the land of sky blue waters

Mich Gloden was like a cult beer when it made its way down to IA.  Never really cared for the stuff myself. 

[finsleft]

Oz, What lake are your folks in Pokegama, Sugar....? That area (Grand Rapids) the fishing, snowmobiling, cross country skiing is really a boom to the local economy. I hope it (poor ice) doesn't hurt the local economy too much this seasn.

Their place is north of town, but of course you can't put your house on your own lake.  The fishin's always better at your buddies place.  So you put your house out off his joint and he puts his out off yours...  But my dad's got the (new) house (always gotta have a new house) off Tioga beach right now, if you know the bays of Pokegama.  He spears, as that's the only winter fishing that really counts.
It's possible that the complaining about the ice may be more fancy than fact.  Unless it freezes in dead wind with no snow for two months so that there is 12'' of glass-like ice, then it's a bad winter.  And even then the ice is to thick to chainsaw, the ice is too slick for the truck and the snow doesn't stick, etc, etc, etc.

Oz, your father knows where it's at. I hunt and fish a lot, but spearing is my favorite, by far. The snow has slowed down the ice making, but temps lately have been cold enough to overcome that. What the snow on the ice does do, is hamper mobility. with 10-12 inches of snow, I can't pull my big angling house out with the ATV without getting stuck, and ice is too thin for a truck. Finally getting crap done around the house though.
And Dad's right about another thing: it gives us all something to talk about.

[Jonny Utah]

Disregard the fact that I AM THE WHITE SILLY for a second...honest, serious, real question here...being that I have never played past junior high football, how would Mount Union fair in Division 1-AA?  Any good guestimates would be good.

(not)

MUC wouldn't be even on the field with any of the 1-AA teams that are still playing at this time of year....  

TD ROYALS!!! - no longer a shut-out!

..... I think from watching this game, MUC would probably be able to play with some of the bottom tier teams, but the is a distinct difference in size, speed, strength, and athleticism when you start talking D1 of any level.  I believe MUC would fare quite well with many D2 schools in the country, maybe even some that are still playing.  This years MUC team is VERY, VERY good!  I will not go as far as saying that they could win the D2 championship, but, they might not get blown out vs. some of the still playing D2 schools. - my guestimate at least - not that there is any "proof" possible.

As a season ticket holder for one of the Top 5 teams in IAA.....Mount Union is as good as 95% of the teams that I've seen play Montana.  I would not discount Larry against anyone.  They are as fundamentally sound and aggressive as they would need to be to stay with the top teams.

I dunno I would have to disagree there.  Ive seen probably the same level that you have the last 3-4 years in Boston at Northeastern (who has played Umass, Georgia Southern, Deleware, New Hampshire, Richmond, Boston College), and those teams are much bigger, stronger and faster than MUC is.  Just their defenses alone look totally different than MUCs defense does.  QBs from schools like Richmond and New Hampshire would probably make MUCs defense look pretty silly.  I mean Umass was within a touchdown of Boston College this year.

Jonny Utah- are you disagreeing with me or with Redtooth?  As I sit here and watch the D2 championship game, I'm hesitant to say that MUC could play with these two teams.  The reason for me is simply this.  I believe MUC would probably defeat most lower level D2 schools it faces but would not defeat playoff caliber teams.  Much in the same way, I do think that MUC could play with lower level D1-AA schools (or whatever they are now called) but would not fare well at all vs. middle to upper level D1-AA schools.  Reasoning is this - Lower level D1-AA schools probably have talent, yes, but the reason their talent is not able to win them games is lack of discipline and cohesiveness that will allow them to win.  Same thing for the lower to middle level D2 schools.  This years MUC squad may not have the physical tools as the upper level teams I believe they could beat, but I feel this years team is, talent wise, not as far off in talent as most D3 schools are.  But, in addition, they are polished.  Having played 15 games a year for the last 3 years, this MUC team could play with many of those upper level schools. I in no way believe they would be dominant like they are in D3.  However, I think they could stay on the field.

LAB,

I think he is disagreeing with me on the IAA/FCS issue with Mount.  Keep in mind I didn't say they would dominate the way they do at DIII, but could compete.....by compete I don't mean 6-6 either.  I think they would be a playoff team at IAA and DII.  The size and speed to compete is there.......the intangable quality of being fundamentally solid is where they are much better than most teams at these levels....I see alot of sloppy play both in person and on TV during the playoffs.  The other ace card they would have to compete is named Larry Kehres with a career record of 260-20-3. 

Yea I was disagreeing with Redtooth on this one.

I dont think they would be a playoff team at 1-AA.  Ive seen em live.  They are nowhere near the size of a Delaware, New Hampshire or Georgia Soutern.  Even a Northeastern or Rhode Island.  But I agree that their play isnt sloppy, and that is what seperates them from the rest of d3.  Ithaca made very few mistakes and they made it a real good game for a half, and even 3 quarters.  The next three teams MUC played were very sloppy and made bad mistakes all over the field.

Saying MUC could make the 1-AA playoffs means they could beat Minnesota this year (trying to put it in MIAC terms).  I think Minnesota would blow them out, but Delaware would give Minnesota a good game and probably would beat them.

[Pat Coleman]

Perhaps but we know from experience that Larry Kehres would outcoach K.C. Keeler.

[Jonny Utah]

Perhaps but we know from experience that Larry Kehres would outcoach K.C. Keeler.

Maybe Kehres had better talent?

[Johnnie Red]

Time to start planning for some awesome events in February of 2008. Hopefully we can get a number of the MIACPP posters in attendance at one or both of the events. Put down Saturday, February 2 for the BockFest in New Ulm at the Schell's Brewery. Duffman has been there and can tell you what a great time it is to be drinking Schell's beer on the brewery grounds listening to polka music.

Then the following weekend there will be the EelPout Festival in Walker on Leech Lake. The largest outdoor keg party in Minnesota.

[skunks_sidekick]

There is NO WAY Mount had better talent than Rowan in that stretch of games.  I'll never forget the first time we saw them take the field.  It was like.....holy crap!  They were HUGE!  It seemed like every kid was a D-I transfer that had size, speed, and skills. 

However......Keeler was a cocky arsehole, who never did adjust to the things Mount was able to do.  He always thought they were just "too good" for Mount to beat them. 

Uh huh.........

[Redtooth]

I must be living right, or something to that effect. I was at a Christmas party last evening in Victoria. In walks a couple with Bethel University clothing on. Of course I had to introduce myself and mention that I was a Johnnie. Turns out they had just gotten back from the game at Mount Union. Their son is a Bethel player.

Just out of curiosity JR, did they leave at halftime  or did they have their own G4 fly them directly home?  That seems awfully quick for a return if it was the charter.

BTW- Nice try TweetyBird at sucking up to the Mount fans on the OAC Board....that might not work after you acted like a jacka$$ all week.  To answer your PM, I'm a much bigger Richard than you think.

[Freebird]

This is Freebird signing off for the year.

For any lingering Mount fans you have an incredible team and I wish you the best on Saturday.

Congrats to the Bethel team.  You guys had a special year and raised the bar every other team that comes after you.

To all SJU folks thank you for the fun year and I look forward to next season.

Happy Holidays to all and I hope you have a great year! (even TDT, KR, Duffman, and Redtooth  )

[tmerton]

Isn't Scotch an old man drink???

I don't know whether you're showing your generation or your geography or what.  But in fairness I guess for those who drink Zima, cherry schnapps or anything so long as it's sweet and has an umbrella in it, the answer is yes. 

[Jonny Utah]

There is NO WAY Mount had better talent than Rowan in that stretch of games.  I'll never forget the first time we saw them take the field.  It was like.....holy crap!  They were HUGE!  It seemed like every kid was a D-I transfer that had size, speed, and skills. 

However......Keeler was a cocky arsehole, who never did adjust to the things Mount was able to do.  He always thought they were just "too good" for Mount to beat them. 

Uh huh.........

I dont know Keeler or anything about him.  But how do you know who has more "talent"?  If you looked at the 1997 Mansfield, PA d2 team and I told you they were Penn St. you would not have been able to tell the difference.  Our Ithaca team looked the same as this years Ithacas team, a lot smaller.  We beat them like Mount beat teams this year, 59-21 and it was 35-0 at the half.  Just because they "looked" better or bigger doesnt mean they have more talent.

Maybe Keeler got outcoached, but MUC has some good dam players all over the field at every position I think.