FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Redtooth]

An article came out today about D1/FBS NIL and the cost to play with the big boys......last fall Ohio State spent just north of $20MM for the roster that won the National Championship.  For the upcoming season, Texas is said to be spending between $35-40MM.  Those teams hoping to compete into the playoffs will likely all have $20MM payrolls this fall.  The cost of doing business will escalate until the courts force a salary cap.

Nick Sabin said recently in an interview that he would not coach college football with the current NIL structure in place. His exit clearly shows that he is a man of his word.

Nick also had the famous quote last year on the first Game Day of the season, "if you don't pay the right guys, you'll be $hit out of luck"

In terms of him not coaching with the current NIL structure in place, his new ESPN contract of $438MM gives him plenty of reasons to stand on his word.  He is unbelievably skilled at his current role.

[hazzben]

An article came out today about D1/FBS NIL and the cost to play with the big boys......last fall Ohio State spent just north of $20MM for the roster that won the National Championship.  For the upcoming season, Texas is said to be spending between $35-40MM.  Those teams hoping to compete into the playoffs will likely all have $20MM payrolls this fall.  The cost of doing business will escalate until the courts force a salary cap.

Nick Sabin said recently in an interview that he would not coach college football with the current NIL structure in place. His exit clearly shows that he is a man of his word.

Nick also had the famous quote last year on the first Game Day of the season, "if you don't pay the right guys, you'll be $hit out of luck"

In terms of him not coaching with the current NIL structure in place, his new ESPN contract of $438MM gives him plenty of reasons to stand on his word.  He is unbelievably skilled at his current role.

Yeah, the cynic in me could also read it as "I [Saban] preferred coaching in the days when SEC boosters gave us a cutting edge advantage. This whole everyone is allowed to pay players is for suckers!"

[hazzben]

Some clarity on Lamker-gate.

Apparently he's on paid administrative leave at Augsburg. Not sure the goal was ever to coach both teams as much as it was he had a window to ensure a landing spot at Osseo. I think he saw the writing on the wall in Minneapolis. But he did try to convince his DC to do the double duty gig initially. So maybe there was a part of him that thought double HC was possible, while at the same time he made sure he had a gig if things played out like he foresaw with his Alma Mater??

Timing sucks for Augsburg. Do you have time to hire the next guy or do you go with an interim for next season? I don't lose any sleep over Augsburg's rising or falling, but they are closer to becoming a Hamline than breaking into the top Tier.

IMO the MIAC has no need for more teams ranked in the bottom 25% of D3 Football. The league is better, and the top teams more battle hardened, when there is a healthy middle 50% of the league that can compete regionally and give the top teams a genuine push on a consistent basis.

[Pat Coleman]

Plus Augsburg with a change at athletic director as well only complicates that question.

[AO]

An article came out today about D1/FBS NIL and the cost to play with the big boys......last fall Ohio State spent just north of $20MM for the roster that won the National Championship.  For the upcoming season, Texas is said to be spending between $35-40MM.  Those teams hoping to compete into the playoffs will likely all have $20MM payrolls this fall.  The cost of doing business will escalate until the courts force a salary cap.

Nick Sabin said recently in an interview that he would not coach college football with the current NIL structure in place. His exit clearly shows that he is a man of his word.

Nick also had the famous quote last year on the first Game Day of the season, "if you don't pay the right guys, you'll be $hit out of luck"

In terms of him not coaching with the current NIL structure in place, his new ESPN contract of $438MM gives him plenty of reasons to stand on his word.  He is unbelievably skilled at his current role.

I'm sure Saban is paid well at ESPN, but that number just seems like a wild guess, I can't find any reputable source supporting it.

[DuffMan]

...but they are closer to becoming a Hamline than breaking into the top Tier.

This made me chuckle.  Lamker talked a big game when he was hired but couldn't back it up with any notable results.  To quote one of my teammates, "F*** Augsburg!"

[hazzben]

@Duff, don't you live in Lamker's neighborhood or something? Guess you'll have to troll him with a Maple Grove sweatshirt and SJU hat or something on the dog walks now.

[DuffMan]

I don't think he's in our immediate neighborhood, but he's close enough that I've seen him out walking, on occasion.  I'm not above trolling him, much like I'm not above trolling the house down the street that flies a Bethel flag on fall Saturdays. 

[GoldandBlueBU]

Yeah, the cynic in me could also read it as "I [Saban] preferred coaching in the days when SEC boosters gave us a cutting edge advantage. This whole everyone is allowed to pay players is for suckers!"

That was my first thought exactly.  He preferred to operate when he had a concealed advantage, and were good and out-maneuvering the rules in order to compensate players.

[faunch]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

[hazzben]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

I don't think it will. Article notes it's for Division 1, I'm not sure the revenue sharing will be applied below that level. To your point Faunch, there aren't many small college athletic departments that make money. Frankly there aren't that many D1 athletic departments that do outside of the Power4.

It also comes down to who drives the most revenue into their program and operates it profitably. Shockingly the Top 25 revenue athletic departments is an exclusively B1G and SEC party.

[faunch]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

I don't think it will. Article notes it's for Division 1, I'm not sure the revenue sharing will be applied below that level. To your point Faunch, there aren't many small college athletic departments that make money. Frankly there aren't that many D1 athletic departments that do outside of the Power4.

It also comes down to who drives the most revenue into their program and operates it profitably. Shockingly the Top 25 revenue athletic departments is an exclusively B1G and SEC party.

I guess it could lead to D1 schools cutting sports that don't generate revenue which could result in more student athletes playing / participating in D2 and D3 athletics.

[OzJohnnie]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

I don't think it will. Article notes it's for Division 1, I'm not sure the revenue sharing will be applied below that level. To your point Faunch, there aren't many small college athletic departments that make money. Frankly there aren't that many D1 athletic departments that do outside of the Power4.

It also comes down to who drives the most revenue into their program and operates it profitably. Shockingly the Top 25 revenue athletic departments is an exclusively B1G and SEC party.

Doesn't the D1 money from just a few sports (men's bball and football?) fund the post season tournaments in D3?  If they carve 1/4 off the top of all D1 revenue, then that's a whole lot of spare change which will no longer be available for D3 playoffs, no?

[faunch]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

I don't think it will. Article notes it's for Division 1, I'm not sure the revenue sharing will be applied below that level. To your point Faunch, there aren't many small college athletic departments that make money. Frankly there aren't that many D1 athletic departments that do outside of the Power4.

It also comes down to who drives the most revenue into their program and operates it profitably. Shockingly the Top 25 revenue athletic departments is an exclusively B1G and SEC party.

Doesn't the D1 money from just a few sports (men's bball and football?) fund the post season tournaments in D3?  If they carve 1/4 off the top of all D1 revenue, then that's a whole lot of spare change which will no longer be available for D3 playoffs, no?

Someone mentioned that to me the other night.

[hazzben]

How will this impact D3?
Considering very few, if any generate any real revenue.

https://www.startribune.com/ramstad-this-could-be-the-week-the-ncaa-becomes-a-professional-league/601335749

I don't think it will. Article notes it's for Division 1, I'm not sure the revenue sharing will be applied below that level. To your point Faunch, there aren't many small college athletic departments that make money. Frankly there aren't that many D1 athletic departments that do outside of the Power4.

It also comes down to who drives the most revenue into their program and operates it profitably. Shockingly the Top 25 revenue athletic departments is an exclusively B1G and SEC party.

Doesn't the D1 money from just a few sports (men's bball and football?) fund the post season tournaments in D3?  If they carve 1/4 off the top of all D1 revenue, then that's a whole lot of spare change which will no longer be available for D3 playoffs, no?

Someone mentioned that to me the other night.

Yep, so the Men's and Women's March Madness/NCAA Tourney money is what funds the "down market" playoff championships (the lion's share coming from the men's tourney historically).

As I understand it though, this is talking about the individual schools sharing their revenue with their athletes. So I'm not sure that it's really being proposed to take it from the same pie that the D3 sports playoffs are funded from, which is an NCAA piggy bank.

And I think you're totally right Faunch, my guess is this will have an effect on non-revenue sports. My guess is that would hammer men's D1 non-revenue since there are still Title IV compliance concerns. So unless you're Iowa and wrestling brings in money, this could cut into how viable a baseball or men's soccer team is going forward. But you've still got to keep women's sports going because you need to balance scholarship offers with Football's 105 man rosters throwing the math off.

Bottom line, the times they are a changin ... and the dust hasn't settled yet. To mix our metaphors a bit.