MBB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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iwu70

Not much NIL money in CCIW. . . some guys used the extra year of eligibility after Covid and transferred for an extra year of play, getting an MA degree.  Leritz did that, likely now Roper at U of Chicago, too.  Lambesis earlier, too.  Yoder went away for a year, then came back to IWU. 

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GusD

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Quote from: ChickenHoops on November 03, 2025, 04:41:51 PMHow much academic or NIL money is there in the CCIW?  The UAA? 

Grad transfers make the question more applicable, e.g. Chicago and IWU.


Not sure how much NIL money there is within the entire CCIW, especially considering we are talking D3 here, plus the fact schools certainly aren't going to be revealing any details about such assets. However, I think it's a pretty safe bet that Wheaton and Wesleyan lead the way. In fact, a pertinent question with regard to this subject might be is Wheaton among the D3 leaders in this area. Also, whether or not it's designated as NIL (I'd bet not), IWU must have a fair amount of available money at hand in order to help bring it's astronomical tuition/room & board/fees "sticker price" back down to earth.
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Does NIL allowed to cover tuition?  Essentially a full ride scholarship under the old days?
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Quote from: Gotberg on Yesterday at 03:38:23 PMDoes NIL allowed to cover tuition?  Essentially a full ride scholarship under the old days?

As long as the source is not the school itself, NIL is just money; the athlete can use it for whatever they want.  (They do need to be careful to pay taxes on it, though!)
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GusD

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Think of today's legal NIL money as yesterday's illegal money that was channeled to athletes from boosters and donors (largely alums) and companies whose apparel the athletes wore.

In both yesterday's and today's environments D3 money was/is minuscule compared to D1 with the main difference probably being that in the old days the illegal payments to D3 kids were practically non-existent as opposed to today's legal NIL money being relatively tiny in comparison.

The old, pre NIL days in D1 were often times very creative with things like Cadillac Tony sitting at a back corner table facing the front door, and having the waitresses drop the checks on his table instead of the athletes tables as they finished their pizzas and left.
Another popular scheme had each player assigned a "sponsor." The deeper the pockets of the sponsor, the bigger the star player he was pared with. The sponsor gave each player a weekly CASH gift. In basketball starters got a higher amount and reserves a lesser amount. In football, it would depend on what string you were ranging all the way down to 7th-8th string guys who got around $25.00 a week. And while they were usually Chevys or Dodges that sat in the dorm parking lot as opposed to Cadillacs or Buicks, the keys would be up in the rooms of those players who were good enough bring name recognition to the institution by virtue of their achieving All-American status.
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Gregory Sager

Quote from: GusD on Yesterday at 03:01:38 PM
Quote from: ChickenHoops on November 03, 2025, 04:41:51 PMHow much academic or NIL money is there in the CCIW?  The UAA? 

Grad transfers make the question more applicable, e.g. Chicago and IWU.


Not sure how much NIL money there is within the entire CCIW, especially considering we are talking D3 here, plus the fact schools certainly aren't going to be revealing any details about such assets. However, I think it's a pretty safe bet that Wheaton and Wesleyan lead the way. In fact, a pertinent question with regard to this subject might be is Wheaton among the D3 leaders in this area.

I challenge that "safe bet" of yours. I'd be very surprised if Wheaton is among the CCIW's NIL leaders, let alone all of D3. It's very much not in keeping with how Wheaton operates.

Wouldn't surprise me, however, if Illinois Wesleyan is at the top of the league in NIL funds, because it's an institution that has a lot of close ties to its local business community, in particular the two major insurance corporations that are based in Bloomington. I also wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the school you support is right up there in NIL money as well, although, as you said, NIL money for D3 student-athletes is peanuts compared to what the D1s are raking in -- and if North Central is indeed topping the league (or close to it) in terms of NIL dough, methinks it's mostly going to the young gentlemen who wear helmets and pads.
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