MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[dothedew]

Last question for now...I promise.

Since it appears that the Hope men aren't going to host after the first weekend (once again as always assuming they get there)
Does that then mean that the hope women could host the sectionals?

[mjfasteenwolf]

Last question for now...I promise.

Since it appears that the Hope men aren't going to host after the first weekend (once again as always assuming they get there)
Does that then mean that the hope women could host the sectionals?
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I think the women could host the sectionals at Devos if they men aren't playing there and they are the highest remaining seed in the region, and the NCAA chooses to have it there. I know thats asking a lot, I know for soccer this year, Hope got screwed b/c even though they were the no. 1 seed in the region they had to play in Wisc. in order to convenience all of the teams in the regional.

[sac]

The only thing I find a little disappointing about the bracket is that except for Hope/Calvin and York/Catholic the NCAA managed to avoid any other 2nd round matchups between conference foes.

Seems like they could have come up with an alternative to Hope/Calvin in the same bracket.....oh well.




Yea um teenwolf.........lets try not to fire up the Knights  with cleverly inteded posts ok

[Civic Minded]

Come onnnnnn who is giving me negative karma for that last post, how can you feel so negatively towards that, it was all done in good fun.

Two guesses, and the first one doesn't count?   

Here's some karma from me -- I thought it was hysterical (and pretty accurate).  I'd add my observation about Ellen Wood's passion and volume (that girl is loud!) compared to, let's say Meckes, but then my karma would bottom out even further...   

[mjfasteenwolf]

Come onnnnnn who is giving me negative karma for that last post, how can you feel so negatively towards that, it was all done in good fun.

Two guesses, and the first one doesn't count?   

Here's some karma from me -- I thought it was hysterical (and pretty accurate).  I'd add my observation about Ellen Wood's passion and volume (that girl is loud!) compared to, let's say Meckes, but then my karma would bottom out even further...   

Thanks Civic, I'm not trying to fire anybody up, I just though some people might find it humorous, yet frighteningly true.

[GoKnights68]

Jordyn Boles Vs. Andy Draayer- Pretty even, slight edge to Boles, she can hit an outside shot with somebody in her face and Draayer can't.

[oldknight]

If both Hope and Calvin win their first round games will this be the first time they will have met in the NCAA tournament? (I've only been following for about 7 years and can't remember any)

1987 Calvin 92, Hope 80 (Regional)
1990 Calvin 95, Hope 68 (2nd round)
1991 Calvin 89, Hope 84 ot (2nd round)
1992 Calvin 91, Hope 88 (2nd round)
2006 (2nd round) -- do we see a pattern of being screwed by the NCAA committees here?

1991-92 was arguably the best teams ever to come from each of the schools (All-Americans and future pro stars Honderd, Gugino, Elliott) and many thought that they should've met much later (even in the title game) to merit such dominance over the rest of the regional teams...

Calvin also beat Hope in a playoff game (I think in 1980) to get into the NCAA tournament. It was played after the regular season ended (there was no post season conference tournament at the time) and both teams were tied for the regular season championship which, at the time was the basis for the MIAA entry to the NCAA tournament. The game was played at Middleville High School and was an excellent game. I don't remember the final score but I think Calvin won by 2 (82-80 comes to mind).

The 1992 matchup is a game I wish I had on video. I'd pay for it. Honderd's Knights against Gugino's Dutch. The play was outstanding with big play after big play. I can still see the look on Glenn's face after the game. He was dumbfounded that his team (I think the best he ever had) could have played so well and still lost. I remember exactly his TV quote, "I don't think a team in Division 3 could have beaten Calvin tonight. [pause] Hey, I don't think a team in Division 3 could have beaten us tonight!" Glenn was right.

[sac]

From there the Knights went to Gustavus Adolphus and toughed out a 69-68 win on the hosts floor.

After that they blew out Otterbein 88-67, Jersey City 81-40 and Rochester 62-49


I was at the 92 game as well and it was a beauty.  Hope had struggled to finish the season as they often do, after losing to Calvin 77-75 2 weeks earlier, Hope edged Albion by 1, tournced a horrible Olivet team and then beat Alma by only 6 in the first ever MIAA tournament game.  Then they lost to Kzoo in the MIAA semi's.

Hope made the NCAA field anyway and was sent to Wittenberg to meet the NCAC Champion Tigers.  Hope trounced the Tigers 76-60 in a big surprise and headed to Calvin 2 days later to take on the Knights who were home resting comfortably.  It was  a 48 team field that year.

Hope was 23-6 that year with 3 losses to Calvin, a loss to NAIA I David Lipscomb, and D1 Central Michigan and the Kzoo loss.

[Gregory Sager]

It will be interesting to see how Hope will divide up the tickets 50/50 considering that the Hope student section is way larger than any other section due to its non-fixed seating.

Hope will only be able to divide up the tickets that the hosts are permitted to control, as per the guidelines on page 35 of the 2006 D3 tournament handbook. For a four-team event (i.e., Friday night), they get half of the available tickets. For a two-team event (i.e., Saturday night), the hosts get two-thirds of the tickets.

[sac]

Plus all the tickets UW LaCrosse and Wisc Lutheran return........which will be alot. 8)

Calvin might get a chance to ask for more even, and they won't have any trouble selling their 600.

[Gregory Sager]

Only a couple of schools have separate facilities. They aren't going to make an exception for Hope and UW-Stevens Point.

I think UW-Oshkosh has separate home gyms for the men's team and the women's team as well.

[sac]

In 2003 Hope facef UW Oshkosh in the second round of the NCAA and was beaten  84 - 77.

Oshkosh was 10-6 and tied for 3rd in the WIAC that year, but won the  WIAC tournament to get the AQ.  They were 22-6 going into the NCAA's.


2006 UW LaCrosse was 10-6 and tied for 4th in the WIAC this year and is 20-7 coming into the tournament.

[Gregory Sager]

The only thing I find a little disappointing about the bracket is that except for Hope/Calvin and York/Catholic the NCAA managed to avoid any other 2nd round matchups between conference foes.

True, but don't forget that the two SCIAC teams have to play each other in the first round. Food for thought for those inclined to grumble about the possibility of a second-round Hope/Calvin tilt.

[devossed]

The only thing I find a little disappointing about the bracket is that except for Hope/Calvin and York/Catholic the NCAA managed to avoid any other 2nd round matchups between conference foes.

True, but don't forget that the two SCIAC teams have to play each other in the first round. Food for thought for those inclined to grumble about the possibility of a second-round Hope/Calvin tilt.

Also true, but neither of which has a realistic shot of advancing past the 3rd round, maybe not even the 2nd...

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Now I know this will probably cost me karma and get me flamed - but I honestly think Calvin will lose their game on Friday - unless there is a turnaround in their play. 

Despite going 2-1 last week, they struggled mightily from the floor in all 3 games.  A different bounce of the ball in either the Olivet or Kalamazoo game and they don't win.  It just seems that they've been out of sync.  Somehow they need to right the ship and get the flow back in their game.  UW-LAX is a good team and should not be taken lightly.