MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[knightvision]

That was against Andy Draayer in the MIAA Championship game, a game Hope won, but was made dicey by the technical GVW received. As I recall, he was quite sheepish about it. Draayer was pulling up in front of him to shoot a 3, and GVW just reached out and gave him a little shove in the back. It was certainly one way to deal with Draayer.

HopeConvert, as I recall that play (others may have different recollections), GVW's problem was his standing at the edge of the court, and Draayer, right in front of him, was falling slightly back as he shot.  GVW's putting his hand on Draayer's back was--I'll wager GVW would explain--more instinctive self-protection than a shove.  It deserved the T, but I don't think it was an intentional shove.

I was across the floor that night, but a reputable source with unimpeachable Hope homerism credentials who was right there thought it more a shove. I was told by this source that GVW sheepishly confessed it was "just instinctive defense," not putting the word "self" in front of it. 

If GVW's idea of instinctive defense is letting your man get between you and the basket and fouling a jump shooter, I sure hope Davelaar or Neil had responsibility for the defense at the time    
I was in the end zone looking straight down the sideline in front of the benches; I'd call it something like inappropriate touching--not really a shove, but definitely not self protection or self defense.

[knightvision]

Sure would like to have met that sheltered Dutch youngster. Wonder whatever happened to him?

I'll look you up sometime--maybe we can sit together at a Calvin game

[Happy Calvin Guy]

Going into this past weekend's games, I've been very optimistic on Calvin's chances this year, if they could address two issues:

1.  I was hoping that Tyler Kruis could make "the leap" his senior year from being a very good post player, all-MIAA candidate, to potential POY candidate. 
2.  We have been missing Tom Snikkers/Bryan Powell's ability to create a shot for themselves.  I feel that at times the offense has been stagnant this year, and misses that player that can take control and either hit the jumper, create a shot for themselves, or penetrate and finish at the rim. 

This weekend's games showed me:

1.  Kruis can indeed play at that level.  If he develops that level of aggressiveness or nastiness necessary, he can dominate in the low post.  He can be a 20 ppg scorer in this league. 
2.  I'm wondering if that player is Jordan Daley. 

[wiz]

Going into this past weekend's games, I've been very optimistic on Calvin's chances this year, if they could address two issues:

1.  I was hoping that Tyler Kruis could make "the leap" his senior year from being a very good post player, all-MIAA candidate, to potential POY candidate. 
2.  We have been missing Tom Snikkers/Bryan Powell's ability to create a shot for themselves.  I feel that at times the offense has been stagnant this year, and misses that player that can take control and either hit the jumper, create a shot for themselves, or penetrate and finish at the rim. 

This weekend's games showed me:

1.  Kruis can indeed play at that level.  If he develops that level of aggressiveness or nastiness necessary, he can dominate in the low post.  He can be a 20 ppg scorer in this league. 
2.  I'm wondering if that player is Jordan Daley.

I agree with your comments and had similar concerns.  Feel much better about the situation after Saturday's game but also know that won't be repeated game in and game out.  There will be games where they shoot 30% instead of 60% and they will need to claw their way through it.  Over the years I have seen many Calvin teams and some individual games that were quite spectacular, including nearly every game in the two national championship campaigns.  The performance against Wheaton was as good as any of those.  The test now will be if they can keep that level up.  A good first proof of the sustainability will be if they can come off the long holiday layoff and return from California with a couple of wins.

[wiz]

Haven't verified it with Massey, but heard predictions that Olivet breaks into the win column tomorrow night.  MIAA getting ever stronger against non-conference opponents.!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Haven't verified it with Massey, but heard predictions that Olivet breaks into the win column tomorrow night. MIAA getting ever stronger against non-conference opponents.!

What?  Could make it all the way up 35th?

I love the MIAA, but the start of this season has been really painful.

[Gregory Sager]

and then something I have never witnessed- the Wheaton coach getting T'd up for arguing a call that went HIS way.

As I explained to Oldknight the other day, the Wheaton men's basketball program prides itself upon doing things backwards.

Something I had forgotten myself was Saturday was the 3rd game in 4 days for both Wheaton and Carthage.  Perhaps fatigue played into their performances.

Excellent point. It didn't surprise me too much that both Wheaton and Carthage lost on Saturday, as much as the fact that they were both blown out in the process. Fatigue could've played into that, especially for a Carthage team that's rather short-handed right now without Malcom Kelly available and which had Marlon Senior playing 40 minutes on Friday night. (He didn't even dress for tonight's game against Silver Lake, a 99-pound weakling from the USCAA.)

Because there's undoubtably some crossover between high school and college refs, I wonder if the refs in Illinois will be less patient with college coaches in the present/future.

Maybe it's changed, but I actually don't think that there's much crossover, if any, as far as the CCIW ref pool goes. If those guys aren't working CCIW games, they're working D1 games (Horizon League or Big East), D2 games (GLVC), other D3 games (MWC, UAA, or NACC), or NAIA games in northern Indiana. I don't know how many of them are even certified by the IHSAA to do high school games. My impression from talking to CCIW refs over the years is that they seem to be pretty much dedicated to working college ball.

[John Gleich]

Because there's undoubtably some crossover between high school and college refs, I wonder if the refs in Illinois will be less patient with college coaches in the present/future.

Maybe it's changed, but I actually don't think that there's much crossover, if any, as far as the CCIW ref pool goes. If those guys aren't working CCIW games, they're working D1 games (Horizon League or Big East), D2 games (GLVC), other D3 games (MWC, UAA, or NACC), or NAIA games in northern Indiana. I don't know how many of them are even certified by the IHSAA to do high school games. My impression from talking to CCIW refs over the years is that they seem to be pretty much dedicated to working college ball.

Things may be different in IL than they were in Wisconsin (at least a decade ago...). I remember there was a pretty big uproar when the WIAC moved to men's and women's Saturday double-headers and their solution for the return trip (i.e. not at the school that hosted the double-header) was to have women play on Tuesday and men play on Wednesday (or vice versa, I don't really recall). But the uproar was due to the fact that high school games had been played primarily on Tuesday and Friday nights and the colleges on Wednesday and Saturday... and the schedule change was going to mean that there weren't enough refs on some nights and that many refs weren't going to get as many games.

The reaction must have been loud enough... they're not doing that anymore.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

MIAA Commisioner David Neilson to retire:

http://www.miaa.org/landing/index

[gohope]

MIAA Commisioner David Neilson to retire:

http://www.miaa.org/landing/index

FDF FOR MIAA COMMISIONER!!!!   

[sac]

Maybe we'll get our 8-team tournament back.

[calvinite]

Final Four Sites Announced:
Men's basketball will remain in Salem, Va., at the Salem Civic Center, through the 2017-18 Final Four. The championship game will have been held in Salem for 23 times in 24 seasons by the end of this contract, with last year's game in conjunction with the Division I Final Four in Atlanta the only exception.

The NCAA revealed that Calvin College's Van Noord Arena will host the 2015 and 2017 Division III women's Final Four, while the 2018 event will be held at the Mayo Civic Center in Rochester, Minn.

Women's basketball is being played at Quandt Fieldhouse at the University of Wisconsin-Stevens Point this season, which was previously announced.

The 2016 site was not announced, leaving open the possibility that all three divisions of women's basketball will hold one joint championship in Indianapolis, the site of the Division I women's Final Four.

The announcement of men's basketball sites seems to not automatically rule out a future combined championship with D-I and D-II, as the 2013 game was shifted to Atlanta despite a previous announcement that it would be held in Salem.

[calvinite]

On a related note, Calvin also selected to host volleyball finals in 2015 and 2017.

[sac]

Kalamazoo is hosting men's and women's tennis in 2016

[Stinger]

Are there any thoughts here as to who might replace Dave Nielson as the Commissioner?   Does the President's Council hire a search firm? I'm curious about the selection process.