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oldknight

#51990
Former Hope hoopster Don Kronemeyer passes away this week at age 80:

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/grandrapids/name/donald-kronemeyer-obituary?id=61068339

Kronemeyer was the freshmen who in 1965 made two free throws after time expired to lift Hope to a 104-102 double overtime win over Calvin at the Civic Center. I was 11 years old at the time. A foul was called on Kim Campbell as the buzzer sounded while Kronemeyer attempted to throw a long pass after gathering in a rebound under the Calvin basket. A totally unjustifiable call IMO. It is the only game result about which I shed a tear, and I still remember it. Not that I'm bitter about the loss 61 years later.

As I understand it, Don was a really good guy. May he rest in peace.

pointlem

#51991
Quote from: oldknight on March 21, 2026, 09:00:44 AMFormer Hope hoopster Don Kronemeyer passes away this week at age 80:

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/grandrapids/name/donald-kronemeyer-obituary?id=61068339

Kronemeyer was the freshmen who in 1965 made two free throws after time expired to lift Hope to a 104-102 double overtime win over Calvin at the Civic Center. I was 11 years old at the time. A foul was called on Kim Campbell as the buzzer sounded while Kronemeyer attempted to throw a long pass after gathering in a rebound under the Calvin basket. A totally unjustifiable call IMO. It is the only game result about which I shed a tear, and I still remember it. Not that I'm bitter about the loss 61 years later.

As I understand it, Don was a really good guy. May he rest in peace.
Always love your posts OK, with this one reminding me of Hope women winning the 1990 national championship after coming from 20 points behind with 9 minutes to go. Hope's Dina Disney was fouled at mid court when catching a pass--and after minutes of referee discussion--was awarded free throws (which she calmly sank), with 0 seconds left on the clock.

I always did wonder how there could be a foul with 0 seconds left (time expired?)...but it may have related to the final buzzer not having sounded and the clock not recording tenths of a second (in which case time wouldn't have expired when free throws awarded)?

The losing St. John's coach was a class act, and didn't throw a tantrum...but I'd forgive her if she's still bitter about the loss 36 years later. :-)

ziggy

Here is a rundown of where the transfer portal officially stood for the MIAA as of this past weekend.

Antonio Hatcher, Olivet - JV this past season, went into the portal last week.
Jalen Overway, Calvin (grad) - Everyone knows the deal here, officially went into the portal last week. His entry notes he is not interested in D2.
Chadwick Martin, Adrian - JV? Was listed on the roster but wasn't one of the 20 listed with a roster number. entered portal in January.
Jake Slezinger, Adrian (grad) - Didn't play this season after appearing in 19 games over the previous three seasons. Entered portal in January.
Alex Pirrotta, Hope - JV '24-'25 but was not on a roster this past season. His portal entry date was October 21.

AlwaysHope

Quote from: oldknight on March 21, 2026, 09:00:44 AMFormer Hope hoopster Don Kronemeyer passes away this week at age 80:

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/grandrapids/name/donald-kronemeyer-obituary?id=61068339

Kronemeyer was the freshmen who in 1965 made two free throws after time expired to lift Hope to a 104-102 double overtime win over Calvin at the Civic Center. I was 11 years old at the time. A foul was called on Kim Campbell as the buzzer sounded while Kronemeyer attempted to throw a long pass after gathering in a rebound under the Calvin basket. A totally unjustifiable call IMO. It is the only game result about which I shed a tear, and I still remember it. Not that I'm bitter about the loss 61 years later.

As I understand it, Don was a really good guy. May he rest in peace.

I was a Hope Freshman and at this game.  I knew Don since we attended the same church.  There is a little more to this game, which went to double overtime.  Sometime before the foul was charged to Kim Campbell just before the buzzer, he was shooting a one and one, and made the first, making it a two possession game (before the three pointer existed), with one more free throw.  But the ref blew the whistle and ruled that Campbell had his toe on the line.  Hope gets the ball, and Hope guard Carl Walters drives to the basket and ties the game.  Calvin gets the ball with nine seconds left, the Calvin shooter misses (was it Campbell again?), Don and Campbell go for the rebound with Campbell called for a foul just before the buzzer went off.  I don't remember a pass, but either way Campbell did foul Don.  I always thought it was a frustration foul. There was no tenth of a second clock and there was no time put back on the clock (if that was possible in 1965).  The Holland Christian grad goes to the line to shoot a one and one with all the players for both teams at mid-court.   Talk about pressure.  If the Hope freshman misses, we go to triple overtime.  He makes the shot, and the home crowd storms the court, carrying Don off on their shoulders.  But the game is not over! I don't remember if the players had to go back to half court. It took a lot of time to clear the court, get everyone back to their seats, so Don could shoot the meaningless second free throw.  He makes the shot, and the fans storm the court a second time.  Game over this time!  Don gets another ride on the shoulders.  Hope wins the MIAA race; there was no MIAA tournament in 1965.

I noticed that the obit mentioned Don's free throws in the first paragraph!  Never seen that before.

One other comment about Old Knight's statement "A totally unjustifiable call IMO."  I understand where he is coming from, since Hope had no opportunity to score a basket.  Plus you hate to see a game decided by a foul call.  But if there is a foul committed before the buzzer, when do you not call it?  If the outcome of the game is already decided, I don't have a problem with it.  What if Don fouls Campbell just before the buzzer near the Calvin basket?

oldknight

Quote from: AlwaysHope on March 23, 2026, 02:22:42 PM
Quote from: oldknight on March 21, 2026, 09:00:44 AMFormer Hope hoopster Don Kronemeyer passes away this week at age 80:

https://obits.mlive.com/us/obituaries/grandrapids/name/donald-kronemeyer-obituary?id=61068339

Kronemeyer was the freshmen who in 1965 made two free throws after time expired to lift Hope to a 104-102 double overtime win over Calvin at the Civic Center. I was 11 years old at the time. A foul was called on Kim Campbell as the buzzer sounded while Kronemeyer attempted to throw a long pass after gathering in a rebound under the Calvin basket. A totally unjustifiable call IMO. It is the only game result about which I shed a tear, and I still remember it. Not that I'm bitter about the loss 61 years later.

As I understand it, Don was a really good guy. May he rest in peace.

I was a Hope Freshman and at this game.  I knew Don since we attended the same church.  There is a little more to this game, which went to double overtime.  Sometime before the foul was charged to Kim Campbell just before the buzzer, he was shooting a one and one, and made the first, making it a two possession game (before the three pointer existed), with one more free throw.  But the ref blew the whistle and ruled that Campbell had his toe on the line.  Hope gets the ball, and Hope guard Carl Walters drives to the basket and ties the game.  Calvin gets the ball with nine seconds left, the Calvin shooter misses (was it Campbell again?), Don and Campbell go for the rebound with Campbell called for a foul just before the buzzer went off.  I don't remember a pass, but either way Campbell did foul Don.  I always thought it was a frustration foul. There was no tenth of a second clock and there was no time put back on the clock (if that was possible in 1965).  The Holland Christian grad goes to the line to shoot a one and one with all the players for both teams at mid-court.  Talk about pressure.  If the Hope freshman misses, we go to triple overtime.  He makes the shot, and the home crowd storms the court, carrying Don off on their shoulders.  But the game is not over! I don't remember if the players had to go back to half court. It took a lot of time to clear the court, get everyone back to their seats, so Don could shoot the meaningless second free throw.  He makes the shot, and the fans storm the court a second time.  Game over this time!  Don gets another ride on the shoulders.  Hope wins the MIAA race; there was no MIAA tournament in 1965.

I noticed that the obit mentioned Don's free throws in the first paragraph!  Never seen that before.

One other comment about Old Knight's statement "A totally unjustifiable call IMO."  I understand where he is coming from, since Hope had no opportunity to score a basket.  Plus you hate to see a game decided by a foul call.  But if there is a foul committed before the buzzer, when do you not call it?  If the outcome of the game is already decided, I don't have a problem with it.  What if Don fouls Campbell just before the buzzer near the Calvin basket?


Thanks for the reminder that Campbell's made free throw was taken away in the closing seconds. I had forgotten that but I did recall it once you pointed it out. In fact, every game detail you mention is in the brain of the former 11 year old boy who watched the contest on Channel 8. You actually couldn't even see what happened on the foul call at the end of the second overtime. This was 1965 and I think there was at most two cameras, with no instant replay. Nonetheless, I'm quite certain the call was totally unjustified.  ::)

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#51995
Recruit/transfer update:

Total - 32
6-5 or > - 16
< 6-0 - 2

By State
MI - 25 - 0.781
IN - 4 - 0.125
OH - 1 - 0.031
GA - 1 - 0.031
OK - 1 - 0.031


By Position
PG - 2 - 0.063
G - 11 - 0.344
G/F - 2 - 0.063
F - 14 - 0.438
F/C - 2 - 0.063
C - 1 - 0.031

                                                                   
Player HeightPositionHigh School  College 
  Adrian
Jacob Figaro   6-2FCass Tech (MI)  Albion
Brayden Holok   6-4G/FStevensville-Lakeshore (MI)  Albion
Darius Aldrich   6-5F/CDurand (MI)  Albion
Adam Dugener   6-0PGNorth Muskegon (MI)  Alma
Connor Fierstine   6-3FMarquette (MI)  Alma
Parker Sundman   6-4GHartland (MI)  Alma
Dalton Dudas   6-7FSouth Lyon East (MI)  Alma
Will Plummer   6-1GGrand Haven (MI)  Calvin
Kyler Berghuis   6-2GHudsonville Unity Christian (MI)  Calvin
Jack Kamminga   6-4G/FHudsonville Unity Christian (MI)  Calvin
Cole Charter   6-5GClarkston (MI)  Calvin
Milo Barangan   6-5FMona Shores (MI)  Calvin
Owen Vander Waal   6-7FHudsonville Unity Christian (MI)  Calvin
Luke Tubergen   6-9CHudsonville Unity Christian (MI)  Calvin
Brody Willick   5-11GKenowa Hills (MI)  Hope
Ayden Ayers   6-2GSpring Lake (MI)  Hope
Kaden Grau   6-4GWestview Topeka (IN)  Hope
Ben Uhde   6-4GJohns Creek (GA)  Hope
Johnny Lake   6-6FBattle Creek Pennfield (MI)  Hope
Ben Mehendale   6-8F/CBrecksville Broadview Heights (OH)  Hope
Dylan Gross   5-9PGRockford (MI)  Kalamazoo
Marvin Moore   6-0GMuskegon Reeths-Puffer (MI)  Kalamazoo
Andrew Caldwell   6-4GFlint Powers (MI)  Kalamazoo
Brennan Elling   6-5FOxford (MI)  Kalamazoo
  Olivet
Cassius Bont   6-3GByron Center (MI)  Trine
Jake Holcomb   6-5FHolland Christian (MI)  Trine
Brogan McNiece   6-5FFt Wayne Homestead (IN)  Trine
Connor Stevens   6-5FConcord (MI)  Trine
Jaron Witcher   6-6FSylvania Southview (OK)  Trine
Caleb Claerbaut   6-7FZeeland East (MI)  Trine
Alex Lake   6-7FIndianapolis Bishop Chatard (IN)  Trine
Drew Matelic   6-7FSpeedway (IN)  Trine
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Is Hudsonville Unity Christian really good? I find it kind of odd that four players are going to Calvin. Is that normal? Did Calvin actually recruit all four? I remember a coach telling me that they normally try not to recruit more than one or two players from the same team.
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Quote from: Greek Tragedy on March 25, 2026, 07:21:17 PMIs Hudsonville Unity Christian really good? I find it kind of odd that four players are going to Calvin. Is that normal? Did Calvin actually recruit all four? I remember a coach telling me that they normally try not to recruit more than one or two players from the same team.

Unity Christian played in the MHSAA Division II Boys' Basketball championship game. The four players going to Calvin all started for the Crusaders. I was the official statistician for all of the semifinal and championship games, so I saw their two games at Breslin. I was impressed with them.

sac

#51998

There have been several players from Unity that have played at Hope/Calvin and other MIAA programs as well.

Calvin coach Bill Sall and a bigtime poster are graduates of Unity.

goodknight

#51999
I just saw a social media post from Hope's Parker Hovey announcing he is entering the transfer portal for his final year of eligibility.
https://x.com/parker_hovey/status/2037254852007354845?s=20

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Quote from: goodknight on March 26, 2026, 04:12:02 PMI just saw a social media post from Hope's Parker Hovey announcing he is entering the transfer portal for his final year of eligibility.
https://x.com/parker_hovey/status/2037254852007354845?s=20

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KnightSlappy

I think we're at the point when most all-region caliber players are going to check out their opportunities?

I don't see him as a D1 guy, so hopefully he'll return to Hope. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a scout.

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: goodknight on March 26, 2026, 04:12:02 PMI just saw a social media post from Hope's Parker Hovey announcing he is entering the transfer portal for his final year of eligibility.
https://x.com/parker_hovey/status/2037254852007354845?s=20

I guess he heard Calvin might have an opening down low?
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on March 26, 2026, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: goodknight on March 26, 2026, 04:12:02 PMI just saw a social media post from Hope's Parker Hovey announcing he is entering the transfer portal for his final year of eligibility.
https://x.com/parker_hovey/status/2037254852007354845?s=20

I guess he heard Calvin might have an opening down low?

Is that legal? Isn't that like a Liverpool player transferring to Manchester Unitded?
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sac

#52004
Quote from: KnightSlappy on March 26, 2026, 05:52:03 PMI think we're at the point when most all-region caliber players are going to check out their opportunities?

I don't see him as a D1 guy, so hopefully he'll return to Hope. Maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a scout.

I think at the very least testing the waters is going to be the norm. 

I do think he could find the right home in D1, and would play for every D2 in this state except maybe 1 or 2.