FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[olddog]

I was going to post calling out the O line, specific players, plays and effort, but what does that gain. Until the Puppies on the O line improve, I wont have much to say about UR football the rest of the season. It will be the same thing, D is good, offense is horrible, over weight, slow footed linemen that cant stay on a block for more than a half second.

I will repeat the changes in culture pushed by the board has a direct reflection on the football field, so why get frustrated at this point. Only thing I control is my $$$. 

[10Freeway]

A good HC can overcome poor school culture.  The school will let him recruit whoever he wants.  Being lazy on the field has nothing to do with school culture, purely a HC issue.  Poor athletes can still play hard and I would argue that Maynard was able to take those same athletes and make them champions.  The defense has done that for the past 15 years to keep the Bulldogs in games while the offense lacked creativity and motivation.

[olddog]

10,

Pat will hate the because I have an opinion and better observation of the SCIAC.

I flat out respectfully disagree with you on the school (I don't know if you have collegekids), I think you are missing my point, playing good defense is much easier than finding good offensive linemen in CA. We have 75 JC's playing football so recruiting is tougher than any region in D3.....a long time ago when my kids played socialism was growing since its all people like me fault...was the theme. We visited a couple couple schools that were so socialist (I am a libertarian) ...the coach told me don't worry about it, the football team is different\normal, Oxy being one my no Fing way in the SCIAC...and their O line was a sieve the last 10 years of existence. There was no way in hell I was going to give that college a dime of my money, hence they lost an all conference kid. Chapman can still get some of those parent/son board since it is still somewhat down the middle. Its a huge advantage for Chapman. If you are a parent and have to pay for your kid to go to a school you look at all the issues.

This is what is happening at many SCIAC schools now...The Regals included...for a classic example.

[Pat Coleman]

Pat will hate the because I have an opinion and better observation of the SCIAC.

Huh?

If you're going to throw shade at me, I have to ask: Is this like your observation of the Pioneer Conference?

[olddog]

Pat will hate the because I have an opinion and better observation of the SCIAC.

Huh?

If you're going to throw shade at me, I have to ask: Is this like your observation of the Pioneer Conference?

Since I have seen many games in both conferences your short answer is always yes, Cracks me up you think you know more about the level of football played and you have never seem multiple games like myself. I love your D3 product but you can not be everywhere, ...I am lucky to have large athletic family. Takes forever to get to many games, which sucks.

I stand by the fact the Pioneer Conference is better than the SCIAC or NWC...easily, the have kids on scholies, pros in the multiple leagues etc..

My reference to you was I get spanked when I discuss "liberal colleges" .....but the liberalization of schools has an affect on enrollment at all colleges, ask anyone trying to collect money. Heck Whittier bringing back football is plenty of proof in the SCIAC...They lost millions from donors, the president turned her back on the donors and she got pushed out. Now the school has a buzz again in the San Gabriel Valley.

Side note: so you can get a kick out of this one, just updated the trust and one of the adds was..... my estate will not pay for any liberal colleges, its one of many directional items I added. Pretty short list of schools the great grand children can go to at this point, my executor will have fun with that directive.

Have a great weekend, keep up the great work.   

[RFBredux]

I like you Olddog but you're a little out of pocket here with Pat.

Pat has traveled all over the country watching and supporting D3 football and other sports for well over 25 years.

His vast knowledge on the sport nationally FAR exceeds yours and I don't say this to throw shade at you.

[Dr. Doolittle]

My son chose CLU over St. John's, Whitworth, and Wheaton (to list a few) for different reasons.  While CLU is a very liberal school, the football coach (Mac) was a great man with Christian conservative values.  My son often had dinner with his family at his house.  He loved the St. John's football history, but the facilities and school were old and the campus was very liberal.  Whitworth was way too liberal for my son, who was upset when Whitworth canceled/did not allow Ben Shapiro to speak on campus.  Lastly, while Wheaton is a great academic institution with conservative Christian values, my son did not feel that he would get a complete college experience there because of the strict campus life.  My son qualified for some academic Scholarships and with the exception of Carthage (which figured out a way for him to go there for free), most cases we would have been investing around $25k, so I had a hard time paying a liberal school anything, but I am proud that my son entered college with zero AP units, played 4 years of football and graduated in 4 years.  He is now working in a Pharma sales job and is happy.  Long story, I agree with a lot of Old Dog's point about SCIAC and JC's and O-Lineman, which my son was.

[PickSixNick]

I agree with you olddog. The liberal mindset is the biggest cancer to these small CA schools. It is happening all across the state and if we focus in on just SCIAC schools, Whittier, Oxy, and soon to be APU, they all have dwindling enrollment all because of liberal hires and mindsets. People do not want to donate money and send students to these campuses as they will be brainwashed.

With that being said, here are SCIAC predictions this week:

CLU: 45 vs ULV: 6
ULV is the worst team in this conference. CLU has too much firepower and will remain undefeated after this week.

CMS: 24 vs UR: 13
I think UR is in a bad place and needs full rehaul of the football program. CMS is a good team and with a dominate defensive line. They should get back on track this week.

CU: 31 vs PP: 21
PP is the defending champion and will be tough to knock off at home especially if Russo is back. CU is the best team in this conference and will get the job done today in a dog fight.

[Gray Fox]

I agree with you olddog. The liberal mindset is the biggest cancer to these small CA schools. It is happening all across the state and if we focus in on just SCIAC schools, Whittier, Oxy, and soon to be APU, they all have dwindling enrollment all because of liberal hires and mindsets. People do not want to donate money and send students to these campuses as they will be brainwashed.

I just saw an ad on Facebook that said APU was the best Christian University in California and one of the best nationally.  Is that not good enough?

[that guy 31]

Just back from Claremont where the Bulldogs were clearly the better team today and the score was closer than the action on the field. Redlands offense looked just fine to me. They have a couple WRs who can play and the QB they played today, Schmidt, was very efficient. He's not a great athlete but he can move around in the pocket. He had a couple really nicely placed corner/slot-fade throws. Their run game needs to improve but they stuck with it and it allowed them to run some clock and opened up some play action.

If anything I would say Redlands was too conservative offensively at times, especially in the 3rd quarter. It was pretty clear that CMS couldn't do much on offense. Every run play CMS called seemed to go backwards. They'd run zone or stretch on 1st down and be in 2nd and 11. Rinse and repeat. Redlands is very solid in the defensive front. I was especially impressed with the OLB Thorn and the FS Ybanez.

CMS can't run the ball. Their WRs are ok but don't create a ton of separation. Their OL got handled pretty well by the Redlands defensive front. The only real chance they had was to hit a deep pass, which is what they did to score their TD. They will need to improve their overall talent level on offense through recruiting. They just don't have enough. I was surprised that Redlands was as effective as they were against the CMS defense. The Stag D kept them in the game but they don't have enough to compensate for their offense right now.

Redlands hosts Pomona and then travels to CLU in the next two weeks. They need to win both to get right back in the mix for a shot at Chapman in the conference title game. Still a lot of football to play but Chapman has to feel pretty good about their chances to win the SCIAC this year.

[Dr. Doolittle]

So CLU showed their real colors yesterday and just got passed a terrible La Verne team.  Again, SCIAC down.  Chapman in driver's seat and go to CLU next week.  I got Chapman by 14 points in this one. 
Nice win for Redlands yesterday.  They should be able to battle and likely beat CLU in two weeks, but we will see.  PP and CMS down.  Entire SCIAC has poor o-line play, as Old Dog has been eluding too.
It is obvious. 

[Kuiper]

Talk about an early reveal of a team's football schedule!

Whittier is officially on the clock

[that guy 31]

Talk about an early reveal of a team's football schedule!

Whittier is officially on the clock

Thank goodness the conference is done with the Surf and Turf divisional silliness and back to a proper schedule. Glad it helped SCIAC football survive but I feel like that is one of the main reasons the conference is so far down in terms of overall talent.

If I was a player looking at D3's and my choices were schools playing a real schedule and schools crossing over and playing the same teams 3 times I would leave SoCal too.

[RFBredux]

That's a very good win for Redlands. On the road against a CMS program they have not beat since 2021, and with a new QB at the helm as well. Need to build off the win though and continue the momentum in the right direction.

[olddog]

A win is always good, but was is what UR did better or are the Athena's just not that good. I think more of the later.

UR offense, yes they tried to change some plays up and clearly played the better thrower this week. He was efficient. OC used the passing game to keep CMS off balance.
The run game did struggle, UR O line made the rotating NGs all world by not staying on their block. I think one of the DT had 8 or 9 tackles, in order to run the ball UR had to attempt to get to an edge somehow, RB did a good job of getting what was there. 

On defense our D line was just better than CMS, Its clear our DC felt they could not run the ball on him, so when they passed UR brought more pressure than normal. It worked except one play when one of our inverts got locked up on their best WR ...a good ball by the QB...we give up 6. Come on son, get those hips around.

I watched the Hens against the Panthers, PP has improved and the second quickest team in the league, Our offense will need to stretch the field a bit with a passing game, o/w it will be a long night trying to run side to side on a quicker team much like Chapman. If UR can ever run the ball between the tackles, I will change my stance on UR offensive line.