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[HSCTiger74]

I would love to see an attempt. People talk about Camp Randall Stadium in Madison and it is centrally located but I think the Brewers' stadium would be cool and the marketing weight of an MLB club certainly helps in these endeavors.

I like both those ideas, but c'mon ... Lambeau. I know it's the least convenient but the coolness factor would be off the charts.

[Bartman]

Congrats to RPI on the win today, they are best team in the LL. Hobart urinated all over themselves today.Although they were fairly even in Total yards, 3 turnovers, a blocked punt, and giving RPI 3 first downs on critical penalties was a killer. The worst game I've seen them play in many years as far as self inflicted pain and RPI did what a good team does by taking  full advantage. Also, many injures today that will deplete the depth chart and risk further losses. We have to win out to be 5-2 in the league and 6-4 on the season. Good luck to the rest of the LL who haven't lost a game yet, at least you have a shot. So much for being picked to win the league again.

Thank you for being so gracious.

Yesterday was only the 13th time RPI has ever won a game in Geneva covering 115 years. The only other one of the 13 that could even be considered a rout was 33 years ago, a 28-0 RPI win in 1992. There have been far more than two trashings done by Hobart in Troy.

In addition, you do have yet another virtually guaranteed stellar hockey season coming up in less than a month to enjoy. We don't nor do I know anyone really looking forward to what starts just five days from now.

In fact, I am probably looking forward more to enjoying watching your hockey season online (with one in person viewing in January at nearby Saratoga Springs) than I am looking forward to watching my own season!!!. In addition, a few of us are even considering taking a group trip to Utica for the D3 championship game in March should Hobert make it that far yet again as this year the game is being played in a real arena. Excellence is not very hard to sell when organizing a trip.

 

Tony Troy,
    You saved me from doing harm to myself after thinking about yesterdays RPI-Hobart game. As I left the stadium I walked by the "Hockey House " and it made me excited for the season. This would be a fourth consecutive National Championship , and last year's title win over Utica was the best and most exciting sporting event I've ever witnessed(Including the Giant's Super Bowl win in Arizona over the Patriots) .Coach Taylor and his teams are a treasure and I look forward to the home and away against Utica in early November. I will still root for the football team to have the pride to finish with a winning season, but being out of contention so early is not a familiar feeling.I know this Hobart team is better than the game they played yesterday, but as they say you are what your record is. I noticed that Ithaca got a few points in the poll, but I'll be rooting for RPI to represent come NCAA time.
  Back to Hockey, will our goalie Damon Beaver win a National Championship in each of his four seasons at Hobart? Stay tuned  

[Pat Coleman]

I would love to see an attempt. People talk about Camp Randall Stadium in Madison and it is centrally located but I think the Brewers' stadium would be cool and the marketing weight of an MLB club certainly helps in these endeavors.

I like both those ideas, but c'mon ... Lambeau. I know it's the least convenient but the coolness factor would be off the charts.

Agreed -- NFL would mean it's off-limits half the season, of course.

[HSCTiger74]

I would love to see an attempt. People talk about Camp Randall Stadium in Madison and it is centrally located but I think the Brewers' stadium would be cool and the marketing weight of an MLB club certainly helps in these endeavors.

I like both those ideas, but c'mon ... Lambeau. I know it's the least convenient but the coolness factor would be off the charts.

Agreed -- NFL would mean it's off-limits half the season, of course.

Yeah, I should have taken that into account. Still not impossible, though, with good planning and some help from the Packers.

[Machiavelli]

Good solid statement win for RPI this week. Surprised Ithaca struggled with Rochester like they did, but optics are definitely looking like RPI might be the frontrunner, though there's a lot of football left to play. Hobart is definitely a talented team, but it's clear this just isn't their year.

That said, I can't let a week go by and not make a comment about Top 25 votes. I'm happy someone from the LL is getting votes, but if you're an outsider and evaluating Ithaca and RPI, I'm really curious what part of Ithaca's body of work would place them getting votes over RPI. Obviously RPI had a VERY bad loss on their schedule, but they followed it up with a touch win against Brockport and blowout wins against Rochester and Hobart while Ithaca crawled past both over the same 2 week span.

It still just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.

[IC798891]

I would love to see an attempt. People talk about Camp Randall Stadium in Madison and it is centrally located but I think the Brewers' stadium would be cool and the marketing weight of an MLB club certainly helps in these endeavors.

My thought there is that upper limit for fans is 46,000 and change if they get into standing room only. Cortaca drew 45,161. Tossing another grand in there at the margins is fine, but doesn't tell anyone anything new. Again, with these schools being so much bigger — and the games simply meaning more — like, why not shoot for the moon. Why not go for 60,000?

What was so significant about Johnnie-Tommie at Target was the eye popping number. It more than doubled the previous record.

What was so significant about MetLife was the decision to move it to hundreds of miles away from both campuses — Target Field's distance to UST was less than 10 — and make it truly a neutral site game.

Make a splash.

Also as someone who ran the comms roll outs for the Cortaca games — the amount of energy surrounding a game where you kind of know there's no limit to the fans you're going to draw is palpable. Every single new "thing" you announce or that gets picked up in the media, you're using it, wondering what kind of push you're going to get from it. Waaaay more fun. Think of your under appreciated comms teams, schools!

[IC798891]

On to the LL. I've never seen a defense like Ithaca's.

The Bombers lead the conference in PPG and YPG allowed by a significant margin: 3 PPG and 43 YPG. But how they do it is just surprising.

Ithaca has forced just two fumbles all season, has just 1 interception, and has just 5 sacks. That's an almost unbelievable from what you'd expect from the best statistical defense in the conference

[ICGrad]

Good solid statement win for RPI this week. Surprised Ithaca struggled with Rochester like they did, but optics are definitely looking like RPI might be the frontrunner, though there's a lot of football left to play. Hobart is definitely a talented team, but it's clear this just isn't their year.

That said, I can't let a week go by and not make a comment about Top 25 votes. I'm happy someone from the LL is getting votes, but if you're an outsider and evaluating Ithaca and RPI, I'm really curious what part of Ithaca's body of work would place them getting votes over RPI. Obviously RPI had a VERY bad loss on their schedule, but they followed it up with a touch win against Brockport and blowout wins against Rochester and Hobart while Ithaca crawled past both over the same 2 week span.

It still just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.

Wait...last week, weren't you complaining that Ithaca wasn't getting votes you felt they deserved to get over other teams in the region? This week, Ithaca gets votes, and how you're complaining that RPI isn't getting votes you feel they deserve more than Ithaca?

Are you related to my ex-wife by any chance?

Anyway, none of it matters. LL is a one bid league this year and no number of votes in the "also receiving" column is going to change that. These polls are often little more than an afterthought to the people voting in them, an extra chore they need to complete before signing off to enjoy what's left of their weekend late on a Saturday night.

[IC798891]

Good solid statement win for RPI this week. Surprised Ithaca struggled with Rochester like they did, but optics are definitely looking like RPI might be the frontrunner, though there's a lot of football left to play. Hobart is definitely a talented team, but it's clear this just isn't their year.

That said, I can't let a week go by and not make a comment about Top 25 votes. I'm happy someone from the LL is getting votes, but if you're an outsider and evaluating Ithaca and RPI, I'm really curious what part of Ithaca's body of work would place them getting votes over RPI. Obviously RPI had a VERY bad loss on their schedule, but they followed it up with a touch win against Brockport and blowout wins against Rochester and Hobart while Ithaca crawled past both over the same 2 week span.

It still just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.

Wait...last week, weren't you complaining that Ithaca wasn't getting votes you felt they deserved to get over other teams in the region? This week, Ithaca gets votes, and how you're complaining that RPI isn't getting votes you feel they deserve more than Ithaca?

Each week gives us new information.

Last week made it so Ithaca and RPI now have two common opponents: Hobart and Rochester

RPI has beaten those two teams by a combined score of 67-13.
Ithaca has beaten them by aa combined score of 23-13

[Machiavelli]

Good solid statement win for RPI this week. Surprised Ithaca struggled with Rochester like they did, but optics are definitely looking like RPI might be the frontrunner, though there's a lot of football left to play. Hobart is definitely a talented team, but it's clear this just isn't their year.

That said, I can't let a week go by and not make a comment about Top 25 votes. I'm happy someone from the LL is getting votes, but if you're an outsider and evaluating Ithaca and RPI, I'm really curious what part of Ithaca's body of work would place them getting votes over RPI. Obviously RPI had a VERY bad loss on their schedule, but they followed it up with a touch win against Brockport and blowout wins against Rochester and Hobart while Ithaca crawled past both over the same 2 week span.

It still just doesn't pass the sniff test to me.

Wait...last week, weren't you complaining that Ithaca wasn't getting votes you felt they deserved to get over other teams in the region? This week, Ithaca gets votes, and how you're complaining that RPI isn't getting votes you feel they deserve more than Ithaca?

Each week gives us new information.

Last week made it so Ithaca and RPI now have two common opponents: Hobart and Rochester

RPI has beaten those two teams by a combined score of 67-13.
Ithaca has beaten them by aa combined score of 23-13

Bingo. Timing is everything. If Ithaca had a few votes last week, I'd be fine with it if it continued. Since 1 or more people decided to toss the LL a few votes this week, I'd be interested in the defense of why Ithaca  was selected knowing what we now know.

[Pat Coleman]

Going to guess that in the mind of the two voters who have Ithaca on their ballot, it may be that Ithaca's loss is to Johns Hopkins, who nobody should hold against a team for losing to. RPI's is to Utica, which is not the same.

[Machiavelli]

Going to guess that in the mind of the two voters who have Ithaca on their ballot, it may be that Ithaca's loss is to Johns Hopkins, who nobody should hold against a team for losing to. RPI's is to Utica, which is not the same.

While you are likely correct, that path of thinking was a week late.