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[PBR...]

More random postings......

While checking out the ATN thread, TGP noted that apparently Susquehanna has a sweet football stadium - probably the best in the LL!  Check it out:

TGP dont even get pbr started on susque and their holier than thou attitude...lets just say they will work well w/ union and whine and cheese parties...

[Rolevio]

what wasn't included on the General Board was the explanation of the chart.  here is it below.

The Collegiate Power Rankings are calculated for each school at the NCAA Division I, II and III levels by averaging the U.S. News & World Report ranking, the U.S. Sports Academy Directors' Cup ranking and the NCAA student-athlete graduation rate of each school. The U.S. Sports Academy Directors' Cup ranking evaluates the strength of NCAA athletic departments, while the U.S. News & World Report ranking recognizes institutions of academic excellence. The student-athlete graduation rates are based on those provided by the NCAA.

don't know if that clears anything up at all, but clearly there is something interesting going on with those rankings.  Carleton had a 5 academic and Macalester had a 25, both great schools but there's not that much swing between the two and if one was "better" it would be Macalester.  As for Ithaca and it's 7, I have no idea about that.  I know it has gotten better and that I most likely would not get in today with my numbers from 10 years ago....but a 7 seems high.

Would love to know all of the factors of the academic rankings.

That explains alot as to why the rankings are so screwed, at least the Academic ones.  U.S. News and World Report splits all of the schools into categories such as National Universities, National Liberal Arts Colleges, Regional Universities, and Regional Liberal Arts Colleges.  The guess here is Ithaca is in a Regional category whereas MIT and RPI are in National Universities, and Hobart, Union and most of the NESCAC is in National Liberal Arts Colleges.  Rolevio also assumes Trinity and Linfield are in regional categories. 

The Directors Cup one would assume also doesn't take into account the D3 schools that play D1 in soccer, lacrosse or hockey, all which would probably win or come close to winning the National Championship in D3.

[Regulator]

Maybe they feel bad for people that go to Ithaca.....I mean it is the "rich kids Cortland", right?

Did I tell you cats that Reg sold the jet boat?  I plan on using the profit to purchase 115.5 - 30 packs of ML

['gro]

what wasn't included on the General Board was the explanation of the chart.  here is it below.

The Collegiate Power Rankings are calculated for each school at the NCAA Division I, II and III levels by averaging the U.S. News & World Report ranking, the U.S. Sports Academy Directors' Cup ranking and the NCAA student-athlete graduation rate of each school. The U.S. Sports Academy Directors' Cup ranking evaluates the strength of NCAA athletic departments, while the U.S. News & World Report ranking recognizes institutions of academic excellence. The student-athlete graduation rates are based on those provided by the NCAA.

don't know if that clears anything up at all, but clearly there is something interesting going on with those rankings.  Carleton had a 5 academic and Macalester had a 25, both great schools but there's not that much swing between the two and if one was "better" it would be Macalester.  As for Ithaca and it's 7, I have no idea about that.  I know it has gotten better and that I most likely would not get in today with my numbers from 10 years ago....but a 7 seems high.

Would love to know all of the factors of the academic rankings.

US News puts out their rankings of top 50 national universities (MIT, RPI, Rochester, Washington (Mo),  and a few D3 others are on this list.  They also have their list of regional rankings (that's how schools like Linfield are ranked high) and libaral arts school rankings (hello NESCAC).

And the US Cup has all sports included right? So schools can pad their stats with good finishes in fencing and equstrian. great.

Kind of a dumb way of organizing the rankings.

[PBR...]

115.5 x 30 = 3465ml's ......pbr figures this should last you until a few days before july 4th reg....

[labart96]

PBR -

The only thing TGP knows about Susquehanna is that one of TGP's counselors at Camp Belknap on Lake Winnepausakee way back in the day wore the same Susquehanna t-shirt for the entire week of camp.

Nast!

[Regulator]

115.5 x 30 = 3465ml's ......pbr figures this should last you until a few days before july 4th reg....

Even at Boggs' pace of 70 per day, that would take 50 days.....oh well, maybe I'll just use the money to buy a hovercraft or something.

[PBR...]

PBR -

The only thing TGP knows about Susquehanna is that one of TGP's counselors at Camp Belknap on Lake Winnepausakee way back in the day wore the same Susquehanna t-shirt for the entire week of camp.

Nast!

pbr hopes the LL beats them into submission for the next 50 years

[PBR...]

115.5 x 30 = 3465ml's ......pbr figures this should last you until a few days before july 4th reg....

Even at Boggs' pace of 70 per day, that would take 50 days.....oh well, maybe I'll just use the money to buy a hovercraft or something.

careful on the hovercraft reg...pbr's friends had one until he almost killed himself on the thing in the delaware river.....they are a blast on land or water (we used to rip around his farm on the thing....) but one can fairly easily get thrown out of the thing

[Jonny Utah]

Check out the thread on the General Board called "Which D-III conferences are the best for academics AND athletics?"

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4986.30

Although TGP would dispute Union, RPI and HWS having a lower academic rankings than "Grove City College", TGP was proud to see his alma mater listed as the tops in the LL

In fact, TGP's kinda pissed at how low they have Bart's academic rating but whatever.  In TGP's experience rankings are never objective. 

TGP will take the #2 grad rating though - that would be a huge improvement since TGP's days in Geneva.  Our retention back in the day was not great.

I don't quite understand that breakdown?  There are a 3 academic rankings of 1?  What are they ranked 1 in?  MIT has a 7 Academic Ranking and a 58 Athletic Ranking, and RPI has a 43 Academic Ranking and a 71 Athletic Ranking?  Ithaca has a 7 Academic Ranking and a 26 Athletic Ranking?

Where do these #'s come from?  DO they make ANY sense?

# 1 Academic Rankings include:
Williams
Trinity (TX)
Linfield

None of these #'s really make any sense to me?

Yea Ithaca is in the group of colleges that are ranked by region like Villanova, College of New jersey, Alfred and the like while MIT is with Harvard and the big guys and is ranked nationally.

I think RPI might be with those schools too. (the Ivys, nescacs, MITs and stanfords)

MIT was my safety school though.

['gro]

Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute


_{Division III Athletics, Division I Academics... Ya Heard?}

[union89]

Check out the thread on the General Board called "Which D-III conferences are the best for academics AND athletics?"

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=4986.30

Although TGP would dispute Union, RPI and HWS having a lower academic rankings than "Grove City College", TGP was proud to see his alma mater listed as the tops in the LL

In fact, TGP's kinda pissed at how low they have Bart's academic rating but whatever.  In TGP's experience rankings are never objective. 

TGP will take the #2 grad rating though - that would be a huge improvement since TGP's days in Geneva.  Our retention back in the day was not great.

I don't quite understand that breakdown?  There are a 3 academic rankings of 1?  What are they ranked 1 in?  MIT has a 7 Academic Ranking and a 58 Athletic Ranking, and RPI has a 43 Academic Ranking and a 71 Athletic Ranking?  Ithaca has a 7 Academic Ranking and a 26 Athletic Ranking?

Where do these #'s come from?  DO they make ANY sense?

# 1 Academic Rankings include:
Williams
Trinity (TX)
Linfield

None of these #'s really make any sense to me?

Yea Ithaca is in the group of colleges that are ranked by region like Villanova, College of New jersey, Alfred and the like while MIT is with Harvard and the big guys and is ranked nationally.

I think RPI might be with those schools too. (the Ivys, nescacs, MITs and stanfords)

MIT was my safety school though.

+1K for the MIT comment

[Pat Coleman]

Pride guy is just some kid who thinks he can write a computer formula to explain anything. I wouldn't pay any attention.

['gro]

Pride guy is just some kid who thinks he can write a computer formula to explain anything. I wouldn't pay any attention.

I saw his "formula" about football talent per state.  At least this list is something that is published elsewhere.

[Jonny Utah]

Yea USnews ranks some schools nationally but some schools regionally so the formula really makes no sense.

Ithaca is ranked 7th for Northern schools but is ranked #1 for schools with communications programs in US counties that begin with the letter "T" and end with the letter "S"