FB: Midwest Conference

[rome]

Well, Like I said in August when the chest pounders at SNC owned the board, if the MWC is to get respected then we must stand-up and BEAT the big boys.

SNC proved fraud...maybe the Scots can prove different.

Nothing puts a team, program, conference on the map like beating a storied program like SJU. Great tradition, Coach, players, history--I can't think of a better opportunity.

Good luck this weekend Scots.


Going in the other direction

I will be very interested in what will be happening at Beloit. 5-5 this season with a skelton crew--Whoever becomes the next HC will have but one great mission--bring in the players!!!
IF that can happen look for the BUCS to go to the show in the future. If not-return to status quo.

[scottie]

Duff Man:  Why couldn't you guys post like that this week?  Some of us would like to discuss football issues, but have had to put up with comments like this:

"To any Monmouth fans leaving tomorrow.  Have a nice trip.  I hope you enjoy your first and last play-off game this year.  SJU will totally out-class you in a short while.  Peaces out.  Scots blow."  Do you recognize this one D-Man?

In one week you have doubled the number of posts on this site, and we're all dumber for it...

In a nutshell, the Scots didn't go 10-0 just by "out-bruting" their opponents.  They have good young coaches and the team is sound at many/most aspects of offense and defense.  I'll be interested to read your impressions of the team after the game.  Perhaps you can try go give it a little more thought than "Scots blow."

Good luck to the Scots tomorrow.  Speaking for myself, I know they are in for a massive challenge.  But I know they will play hard and represent the Monmouth and the MWC to the best of their ability.  Win or lose, the Scots Nation is proud of our team.

"Monmouth Fooball in 2005!"   

[meachscribe]

SNC proved fraud...maybe the Scots can prove different.

Name your team's accomplishments.

What have you and Beloit, I believe, done for this conference in the last 10 years? You're a goon - always have been.

[schwanman]

I can't go as indepth as DuffMan, but I can offer a few observations. Games are won upfront, and I really like Monmouth's defensive line. Dihle and Goranson are studs, Bush is solid, and players like Kirchner, Cantwell and Inniss also contribute situationally. I can't handicap how they'll fare vs. SJU's offensive line, but it should be a good matchup.

The crux of the whole game, in my opinion, is the other line matchup. SJU sounds very tough upfront defensively. Our guys are okay. IF they can keep players away from Tanney, he WILL make good decisions. Our head coach is a very good play-caller, and he'll know when to take a chance downfield. Mostly, though, Tanney will throw 0-15-yard passes. We don't have a breakaway running game, but that's okay ... Haffner, in particular, and the rest of our deep receiving corps provide the big plays.

My guess is that Zigler and Bast are as good as SJU's best players at LB and DB, respectively. Do we have enough others that compare? We'll see.

Offensively, Tanney and Haffner are as good as what you have but, again, do the rest of the skill players compare?

I'd love to be there and see for myself.

I think the only way Scots Nation will make excuses for a loss is if it's a close game and a call or break went against us. If it's 49-7 or whatever Johnnie Nation is predicting, we'd tip our caps and root you on the rest of the way.

[DuffMan]

Scottie, I and other Johnnie fans gave you all a warm welcome when the match-up was announced.  That said, we also warned you that we're quite a boisterous bunch.

I echo the sentiments of previous Johnnie posters.  Come and join us, we always have a good time.  I look forward to a fun-filled day with the Johnnies prevailing in a Monkey Stomp^TM.

Feel free to poke your heads in the MIAC board this week.  Our conversations are quite lively.

I've already posted it several times, but most of the comments and insults thrown around on here are in jest.  Do the Scots blow?  I wouldn't know, but I'll find out.  Some of you guys need to lighten up a little.  We like to talk football, but that's not all.  If you had questions about SJU, you should have asked them and I am sure that you would have gotten a dozen serious responses.  What football knowledge have you contributed this week?

I'm done commenting on the situation.  If you choose to take everything I say at face value, so be it.

Thank you for your statements on Monmouth's team.

[ritz72]

Duff Man:  Why couldn't you guys post like that this week?  Some of us would like to discuss football issues, but have had to put up with comments like this:

"To any Monmouth fans leaving tomorrow.  Have a nice trip.  I hope you enjoy your first and last play-off game this year.  SJU will totally out-class you in a short while.  Peaces out.  Scots blow."  Do you recognize this one D-Man?

In one week you have doubled the number of posts on this site, and we're all dumber for it...

In a nutshell, the Scots didn't go 10-0 just by "out-bruting" their opponents.  They have good young coaches and the team is sound at many/most aspects of offense and defense.  I'll be interested to read your impressions of the team after the game.  Perhaps you can try go give it a little more thought than "Scots blow."

Good luck to the Scots tomorrow.  Speaking for myself, I know they are in for a massive challenge.  But I know they will play hard and represent the Monmouth and the MWC to the best of their ability.  Win or lose, the Scots Nation is proud of our team.

"Monmouth Fooball in 2005!"   

It should be "When they lose", not "Win or lose"!!  

[DuffMan]

Thanks, Schwanman.

[ScoutTeamHero]

112 players all conference, they are handing them out now
who wants one if everyone has one

I know it was talked about it 20 pages ago but I missed 2 days.

Greg-

Beloit brings the best coach in the conference to the table??

And he tried to play smashmouth football with 29 guys on the roster. 

Does anyone think they will still run wing-t next year?

[scottie]

Thanks for demonstrating my point, Ritz72.

[ritz72]

 Piggy backing--

The key matchup is the DL of SJU vs. MON's OL----  Against the arguably the toughest O in the MIAC STO, we took awat their long passing game with an excellent pass rush, then our LB's eliminated their short game.  

The tough thing about the Jay's D-Line is that you cannot focus on one of them.  All 2 will be All-Americans again this year, and the other 2 will receive conference or region accolades.

Like Duff said, this is the toughest Jay's D in a long, long, time.

[ritz72]

Thanks for demonstrating my point, Ritz72.

Ask a football question and get a football answer.  Rip us, and what do you expect?

Take a midol, drink some V-8, take a nap, and LIGHTEN UP A LITTLE!!!!

[DuffMan]

Ritz,  I hear that MC has a few all-conference players, too.  In fact, all of them   Scottie's crabby!  I think he needs a nap.

[scottie]

I'm going to preface this question with two points:  1. I'm not implying that the MWC is in the same league as the MIAC, and 2. We don't need to start comparing academics either...

My question goes back to Mighty Royal's question about Monmouth's competition this year.  How competitive is the MIAC for St. John's?  Looking at their conference standings, there seems to be slightly more parity in the MWC.  The MWC has 5 teams with winning conference records, the MIAC has 3.  It appears that SJU rolled through the MIAC the same way that MC rolled through the MWC - albeit with a couple of close calls.  

The big difference between the conference appears to be that, since the MWC has one more member, MIAC schools can play 2 non-conference games - and that does give them an advantage if they can schedule tough competition like Eau Claire, etc.  As stated previously, Monmouth gets Wartburg the next two years which should hopefully quiet the critics somewhat.

[ScoutTeamHero]

Not all of them only 19 all-conf

[DuffMan]

Okay, and here is a football answer.  

The MIAC wasn't too much of a challenge for SJU this year.  Concordia was/is very tough, other than that, SJU breezed through it's season.  St. Olaf had a good team, but SJU got up early on them and everything fell into place.  That being said, the MIAC generally is more competitive.  Bethel has had some very good teams in the past 7 or so years.  St. Thomas and Gustavus are usually teams that play tough with the Johnnies, too.  

Non-conference wise, SJU played a good UWEC team and would have beat them handily except for 3 blocked punts in the second half.  Northwestern, though, is a creampuff.

My guess is that if Monmouth would have played in the MIAC this year, they would have finished 4th behind SJU, CC, and STO.  I've never seen them, but I'm basing this on seeing and playing against St. Norbert several times.

I think the difference is that SJU has proven that they have the ability to go deep in the play-offs time and time again.  The MWC has not proven this, so they don't get respect, no matter who the MWC champ is.