FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[70_dc_alum]

MSJ QB has been impressive this year, question is will he be on his back the whole day.  QB's play a lot different when the heat is on...ask Rothlisberger!

[Adam Sayer]

Next year MSJ should have a team capable of wining a playoff game...or two. 

Offensively they will be the real deal. They return 8 starters. The QB, leading WR, and both primary RB's return. They also return 3 of their O-linemen. Their offense next year can be on par with the Franklin offense from last year. The key will be how well the 2 newcomers on the O-line mesh with the others. Defensively they only lose 3-4 starters as well.

I will be a little surprised if they do not start out in the 20th-25th area in next year's pre-season top 25.

[SaintsFAN]

Next year MSJ should have a team capable of wining a playoff game...or two. 

Offensively they will be the real deal. They return 8 starters. The QB, leading WR, and both primary RB's return. They also return 3 of their O-linemen. Their offense next year can be on par with the Franklin offense from last year. The key will be how well the 2 newcomers on the O-line mesh with the others. Defensively they only lose 3-4 starters as well.

I will be a little surprised if they do not start out in the 20th-25th area in next year's pre-season top 25.

those 3 or 4 they lose on defense are huge contributors.  I also expect them to be ranked...preseason until week 11 again.

[Adam Sayer]

I was looking through the standings and I came about some odd things (none of which have to do with HCAC football):

1. Hiram's record since 1999: 10-99 (.092 win %). Since 1999, Hiram's had 6, 0-10 seasons

2. In 2005, Wesley beat Salsbury 63-19. Salsbury beat Brockport State 35-30. Naturally you would think that Wesley would destroy Brockport State, yet Brockport State beat Wesley 47-0.

[wab64]

No Witt chatter at all?  I was impressed with MSJ QB and I think Witt hasn't been tested yet this year.  Where are the Lions?  I want you guys to go 9-1 every year.

You probably won't see any Witt chatter, or just a post or 2. Not much content on the NCAC thread all year. Witt appears to be approching this season with a gigantic chip on their collective shoulders. None bigger than McKinley's, the MLB. He likes to slap people as the teams are sorting themselves out after a play and he consistantlyl plays as though the field was 3 yds wider on both sides.
        You won't hear any smack talk and their record speaks for itself, particularly on defense-ppg. rushing. pass defense- you name it. Wabash played the defense of their lives and still lost 10-7/ Good luck to MSJ- the tiders deserve a loss

[SaintsFAN]

How was Witt offensively?  Sounds like they've had a lot of personal fouls called on them..

[cave2bens]

How was Witt offensively?  Sounds like they've had a lot of personal fouls called on them..

Personal Fouls - as far as intentional and late stuff, most seem to surround McKinley.  He's darned good - small in stature for a MLB at 5'8", but plays like he has a Napoleonic complex with a tendency toward "extracurriculars," whether on the sidelines or on the way to the locker room.  I believe he only got two flags in C'ville, but qualified for a half dozen that weren't caught - it's been that way all three years I've watched him.  Frankly, SF, some of the NCAC crews are also a bit overzealous when it comes to that call, particularly with unavoidable contact at end of plays or sideline passes.  Given the league norms, an aggressive defense sometimes suffers inadvertent consequences from the zebras.    Oops, I'm fined. 

Offensively, Huffman is a good, sound quarterback and has the ability to get out and run to pick up yardage.  He can either stay in the pocket or roll out equally well.  Wideouts aren't overly flashy, but better described as workmanlike - good hands, decent patterns, and get the job done.  Weber is solid at running back - he had a tougher day at Wabash, but Huffman more than made up for it on the ground.  The OL, like the DL - solid.

In a nutshell, Witt isn't the flashiest team but Fincham has them playing in a "take no prisoners" mode.  They're very sound on special teams, and make few mistakes.  Unless decked out in purple, it'll will take a near perfect game from an opponent to take 'em out.  A lot has been made of the fact that Wabash's QB wasn't available, and while true, the second and third team QBs are decent in their own right.  It took four interceptions by Frederick, and a lot of good tackling to hold Witt to one TD before that last play field goal.

[Adam Sayer]

Cheapshots are one thing, but there is nothing wrong with playing to the whistle...even if that means drilling a guy as he's going out of bounds, taking your full 2 steps after a QB throws the ball, etc. I love when a guy plays like he has something to prove. It instills a certain mentality and many times, the other players on the team pick up on it and play like it as well.

Our RT, Tepee, would hop piles after the play if a whistle wasn't blown. An official said something to him about it when he hit a guy after the play - but before the whistle when we played Anderson. Tepee's response to the official, "Blow the whistle faster." I thought for sure we would get an unsportsmanlike.

[SaintsFAN]

Cheapshots are one thing, but there is nothing wrong with playing to the whistle...even if that means drilling a guy as he's going out of bounds, taking your full 2 steps after a QB throws the ball, etc. I love when a guy plays like he has something to prove. It instills a certain mentality and many times, the other players on the team pick up on it and play like it as well.

Our RT, Tepee, would hop piles after the play if a whistle wasn't blown. An official said something to him about it when he hit a guy after the play - but before the whistle when we played Anderson. Tepee's response to the official, "Blow the whistle faster." I thought for sure we would get an unsportsmanlike.

yep... I remember a certain guy named Adam Sayer costing his team 15 in the Bridge Bowl played at Mariemont.... on the TMC sideline.  Luckily the beer I threw at you missed.   

[cave2bens]

What a waste of perfectly good beer - would think that a targeted Sayer would be worth at least of bottle of Meier's Cold Duck.  You know, "Hey, Adam! "Duck!" 

[Adam Sayer]

That would have been a long throw considering the visitor's bench was on the far side of the field. You may have been a QB, but your arm wasn't THAT good.

I think that was the only personal foul I ever got while at MSJ for being stupid. I did get 1 for hitting a guy after the whistle (though the whistle hadn't been blown at the time). I was threatened to be removed from the game by the official for my language after the crap call. I think I should have whipped out the Bull Durham line and told him it was a C*ck suckin call. I'm sure that would have gotten a rise

[SaintsFAN]

I was on the TMC sideline, fool.. I WAS talking chit to you when you were getting up, though..

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Good luck to msj and tm tomorrow.  A contingent of the regular fc tailgate crew are headed to Bloomington in the mornng for the IU Purdue game. Nothing but pride on the line.  Burgers brats wings ribs and the usual beverages.   Corn hole and country music.  Nothing better than cooking meat and drinking in a parking lot.

[70_dc_alum]

Good luck to MSJ and TMC today...represent the Cincy area. 

SaintsFan tossing a beer at Sayer.  good thing you did not it him it would be like throwing spinach to popeye.

i nearly got tossed for laying into a ref too when there was a late hit on the QB.  was some really old dude at Thiel and i asked him if "he was too old to actually be able to see the hit or was he just that f'n stupid that he did not realize it was the QB"  in his defense the hit was so late no one realized it was the QB becuase he had got  back to the LOS after a pass.  my dumbest personal foul was against MSJ in the 97 season when the D-end tried to take my helmet off so i started to bitch to the ref that he might want to call hands to the face.  then the next play i had a successful pass block with a straight uppercut that completely took off his helmet and nearly de-cleated him...yep ref took my advise from the play before and was looking for it, duh

[SaintsFAN]

14-0 TMC with 7 min left in 1st quarter. Saints have totally shutdown the run and making plays on Dicks passes. 70 yard TD pass to reception by Owens and 1 yard run by Collier. 539 left in 1st quarter and Tigers are now punting for 3rd time..