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Quote from: stlawus on November 02, 2025, 09:24:09 PMGoing through all the SUNYAC rosters and see that Irwayne Connell is back at Plattsburgh for this season.  This will be his 9th season of college basketball.  Wild.  I think they're all medical redshirts as well as possibly getting a year due to that wonky JUCO ruling.  He played about a third of the season last year and had what I assume was a season ending injury.

According to everything I could find, he played at Thomas Aquinas in 2017-18 and then a JUCO in 2018-19, but wasn't in school at all again until last year.  This looks to be his 4th year of college ball.  He played 9 games last year, which is usually one too many to qualify for a medical exemption, but the JUCO ruling may apply to him if its extended beyond this year.

Yes but as you know once you start playing your clock starts as well so being out of school still counts towards your eligibility.  From what I remember reading last year he had a ton of medical redshirts.  I'm not saying it's even a bad thing, just that even d3 isn't impervious to the eligibility madness now.

That's not true.  You clock only runs if you're enrolled in school.

Where in the manual does it state that?

I'm not really sure, but if you're not enrolled in school, you don't use eligibility.  If you're taking classes and not playing, you use it, but otherwise, the clock pauses.

Edited:  I looked it up.  It's Section 14.2 in the D3 Manual.  You get four total season over 10 semesters of full-time enrollment.

I have never heard of the seasons when you're dis-enrolled after previous seasons of competition not counting towards the eligibility clock.  Unless that is a specific d3 carve out and the clock rule is only d1 specific. 

Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)

Quote from: stlawus on November 04, 2025, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 04, 2025, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: stlawus on November 04, 2025, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 04, 2025, 11:09:51 AM
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 03, 2025, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: stlawus on November 02, 2025, 09:24:09 PMGoing through all the SUNYAC rosters and see that Irwayne Connell is back at Plattsburgh for this season.  This will be his 9th season of college basketball.  Wild.  I think they're all medical redshirts as well as possibly getting a year due to that wonky JUCO ruling.  He played about a third of the season last year and had what I assume was a season ending injury.

According to everything I could find, he played at Thomas Aquinas in 2017-18 and then a JUCO in 2018-19, but wasn't in school at all again until last year.  This looks to be his 4th year of college ball.  He played 9 games last year, which is usually one too many to qualify for a medical exemption, but the JUCO ruling may apply to him if its extended beyond this year.

Yes but as you know once you start playing your clock starts as well so being out of school still counts towards your eligibility.  From what I remember reading last year he had a ton of medical redshirts.  I'm not saying it's even a bad thing, just that even d3 isn't impervious to the eligibility madness now.

That's not true.  You clock only runs if you're enrolled in school.

Where in the manual does it state that?

I'm not really sure, but if you're not enrolled in school, you don't use eligibility.  If you're taking classes and not playing, you use it, but otherwise, the clock pauses.

Edited:  I looked it up.  It's Section 14.2 in the D3 Manual.  You get four total season over 10 semesters of full-time enrollment.

I have never heard of the seasons when you're dis-enrolled after previous seasons of competition not counting towards the eligibility clock.  Unless that is a specific d3 carve out and the clock rule is only d1 specific. 

I'm trying to think of the most recent example, but it definitely happens.  You see it fairly often in the NJAC, where a guy will play one year out of high school and then grades or life get in the way and they take a couple years off before coming back.  COVID messed up a lot of recent examples, because there was all this extra eligibility available.

I believe, by rule, technically, you could drop to a part time student, keep attending, and not use a year of eligibility.  Not sure why someone would do that at the d3 level, but it's a pretty liberal eligibility rule, for sure.
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Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 05, 2025, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: stlawus on November 04, 2025, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 04, 2025, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: stlawus on November 04, 2025, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 04, 2025, 11:09:51 AM
Quote from: stlawus on November 03, 2025, 09:50:15 PM
Quote from: Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan) on November 03, 2025, 11:56:47 AM
Quote from: stlawus on November 02, 2025, 09:24:09 PMGoing through all the SUNYAC rosters and see that Irwayne Connell is back at Plattsburgh for this season.  This will be his 9th season of college basketball.  Wild.  I think they're all medical redshirts as well as possibly getting a year due to that wonky JUCO ruling.  He played about a third of the season last year and had what I assume was a season ending injury.

According to everything I could find, he played at Thomas Aquinas in 2017-18 and then a JUCO in 2018-19, but wasn't in school at all again until last year.  This looks to be his 4th year of college ball.  He played 9 games last year, which is usually one too many to qualify for a medical exemption, but the JUCO ruling may apply to him if its extended beyond this year.

Yes but as you know once you start playing your clock starts as well so being out of school still counts towards your eligibility.  From what I remember reading last year he had a ton of medical redshirts.  I'm not saying it's even a bad thing, just that even d3 isn't impervious to the eligibility madness now.

That's not true.  You clock only runs if you're enrolled in school.

Where in the manual does it state that?

I'm not really sure, but if you're not enrolled in school, you don't use eligibility.  If you're taking classes and not playing, you use it, but otherwise, the clock pauses.

Edited:  I looked it up.  It's Section 14.2 in the D3 Manual.  You get four total season over 10 semesters of full-time enrollment.

I have never heard of the seasons when you're dis-enrolled after previous seasons of competition not counting towards the eligibility clock.  Unless that is a specific d3 carve out and the clock rule is only d1 specific. 

I'm trying to think of the most recent example, but it definitely happens.  You see it fairly often in the NJAC, where a guy will play one year out of high school and then grades or life get in the way and they take a couple years off before coming back.  COVID messed up a lot of recent examples, because there was all this extra eligibility available.

I believe, by rule, technically, you could drop to a part time student, keep attending, and not use a year of eligibility.  Not sure why someone would do that at the d3 level, but it's a pretty liberal eligibility rule, for sure.

I had no idea, I just assumed that was a blanket NCAA thing.  Very interesting, thanks for all the info.

jdex

Regular campaign tips Friday for three conference outfits --- Cortland at nationally-fitted Rochester, Canton at Norwich VT, Oswego hosting Max Ziel tourney first round vs. Mt. St. Vincent (Union vs. SUNY Poly)
   Saturday debuts send Buffalo St. to Keuka, Plattsburgh to Skidmore, Fredonia to Penn St. Behrend while New Paltz is home to Eastern Connecticut.
   Tuesday has Potsdam opening vs. SUNY Poly, following night sees Oneonta open at home vs. Hartwick. Morrisville launches Nov. 15 at Williams MA.

New Paltz is defending regular season champ. Cortland claims last season conference playoff title enroute to NCAA tourney. Quick alphabetical look at SUNYAC '10' ....

    BUFFALO ST. (6-12, 8-17) coach Mike Berkum has bunch of holdovers led by 6-1 jr. Bryce Williams (25g, 11ppg). Among others 6-5, 210 sr. Chisom Ani (5ppg, 5rpg), 5-9 jr. Oryan DeJesus (5ppg), 6-3 sr. capt. Antowan Holmes, 5-10 sr. Brendyn Cheng, 6-4 sr. Wilmer Beard, 6-5 jr. Remi Skvorc, 6-0 sr. Stephon Vergara, 6-0 jr. Chase Solano. Additions include 6-5, 175 fr. Michael Smith from Trinidad & Tobago.

    CANTON (4-14, 4-21) coach Dylan Seikel with last winter's No. 2 scorer 6-5 jr. Bryon Streb setting the scene from returnees 6-7, 215 jr. Hansen Bagdonas (18g), 5-11 jr. Chris Nastasi (22g) and 6-4 fr. Giancarlo Galimi who was CNY all-star from Liverpool, 6-3, 205 soph Tanner Sullivan (11x22 3pt), 5-10 jr. Malaki Smith (22g, 6ppg). Key missing component is 6-2 soph Nate Cohen (12ppg, 5rpg) now at Oneonta.

    CORTLAND (17-12, 13-5) coach Maurice Kearney hopes to build off last season's success, and appears to have ingredients. Personnel nearly intact. Feature two two-time All-SUNYACs in first team 6-4, 210 sr. Kendall Arcuri (29g, 14.3ppg, 6.1rpg) and first team 6-7, 230 sr. Aaron Coston (27g, 13.7ppg, 5.7rpg), along with third team all-SUNYAC 6-4, 205 jr. Joel Davis (25g, 10.5ppg, 10.1rpg). Fold includes 6-3 sr. Isaiah Austin (8.8ppg), 6-3 sr. Gerrad Beubrun, 5-11 soph Kendrick Wilson, 6-1 sr. Gaige Armbrewster (28g). Great Neck South all-star twins Jesse (6-2) and John (6-5) Roggendorf head frosh class.

    FREDONIA (4-14, 6-19) coach Sean Smiley subtracks mucho firepower with loss of graduated Brendon Kulakowski (18.4ppg, 8.2rpg). Incumbents include 6-3 sr. Martin Garza (21g) and 6-2 sr. Ethan Sokolowski. Will look to plug holes with likes of 6-5 jr. Jason Douglas who last played at Norwich, 6-5 jr. Dexter Brooks formerly at Bridgeport, 6-5 Jesse Gustar-Lowcock from Oregon, 6-4 soph Mark MacDonad, fr. Stevie Williams, 6-5 sr. Kofo Ladian.

    MORRISVILLE (9-9, 13-13) coach Brian Wickliffe makes league playoffs in first season and has wealth of vets led by 6-3 sr. All-SUNYAC first teamer Kareem Sanders (16.3ppg, 6.5rpg). Top nine point-makers in the fold including 6-3, 210 soph Jacob
Works (12ppg), 5-10 Jaylyn Moorehead (9.3ppg), 6-7 sr. Yvan Fils-Aime (8.3ppg, 6.3 rpg), J. McCullum (7ppg, 4rpg, 77assts), 6-2 soph Avion Grainger (6.8ppg), 6-4 soph Chris Merilus.

    NEW PALTZ (14-4, 19-8) coach Keith Kenney quickly recovers from several integral departures with arrival of likes of 6-3 jr. Mo Sylla, formerly of Potsdam (24g, 17.1ppg, 6.1rpg). Joins 6-4 soph capt Isaiah Rivera (27g, 9.3ppg, 5.3rpg) and fellow captains 6-3 soph Trevor amalfitano (23g, 5ppg) and 6-0 sr Tom Keeane (17g). Also back is 6-4 sr. LaMar Mathews. Strengthening cast comes 6-8 fr John Osorno, Hicksville LI prep all-star.

    ONEONTA (9-9, 14-12) coach Cameron Conover beneficiary of returning second team All-SUNYAC 6-0 sr Kobe Long (17g, 16.3ppg) along with pair of potent transfers in 6-2 soph Nate Cohen (12ppg, 5rpg at Canton) and 5-7 jr. Nicholas Cortez (15.7ppg, 107assts at Potsdam). Toss in 6-5, 210 soph Cam LaClair (26g), 6-5 Delano Knox (25g,6ppg, 5rpg). Carlos Almanzar is 6-6, 250 fr newcomer. Brutal non-con slate -- D1's Colgate, UAlbany Nov. 29-30 Northern Classic in Montreal, plus NESCAC powers Williams, Colby, Connecticut College.

    OSWEGO (13-5, 17-9) coach Jason Leone directs perennial contender and reloads behind 6-6 soph first team All-SUNYAC Player of the Year Deacon Judd (13ppg, 7rpg) who'll become more of a focal point. Still aboard are 6-5 soph Gary McLane (8.5ppg, 4.6rpg), 6-3 jr Steven Bradley (23g, 8.3ppg), 6-5 soph Arthur Foster (25g, 4ppg), 6-8 jr. Tucker Rosbrook (25g as reserve). Lakers with 12 frosh, sophs, among them 6-0 Freddy Fowler who starred at Liverpool and 6-0 Nick Estell from Niagara Falls.

    PLATTSBURGH (11-7, 15-12) coach Mike Blaine plays through 6-1 sr. second team All-SUNYAC Reem Welch (25g, 15ppg, 6rpg, 94assts). 'Mr. Longevity' 6-8, 200 sr. Irwayne Connell Jr. brings frontcourt depeth along with 6-6 sr. transfer Khalil Screen (16g, 6.9ppg, 6.9rpg at Potsdam), Nate Poindexter Jr. (27g, 10ppg, 5rpg), 6-5 D. McKnight (9ppg). Picks up 6-0 jr. Elijah Morris from Cobleskill following 25g season at Oneonta, plus 6-3 jr. Sean Welsh from Nassau CC (15ppg).

     POTSDAM (7-11, 7-18) coach Jim Bechtel living through wrong side of transfer portal. Loses leaders Mo(hammad) Sylla to New Paltz, Nicholas Cortez to Oneonta, Khalil Screen to Plattsburgh). Handful of returnees include 6-3 soph Mike Hancock (25g, 5ppg, 3rpg), captains 6-2 jr. Ethan Baksh (16g, 4ppg), 5-10 jr. Mathew Szymanski. Among frosh hopefuls is 6-6 Joseph Decker, an all-greater Rochester player. Then there's 6-8, 240 Batualp Ozen from Turkey.
   
     

jdex

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Cortland goes from 69-69 tie with 1:15 to play to 74-69 loss in season starter at Rochester. RDragons without returning top scorer/rebounder K. Arcuri, though 6-5 frosh Xavier Leveille fills starting role with 17pts, 3x9 3s, 4x6ft, 7reb. 32'.
  CSt holds 31-30 lead at half and extends to 36-30 on I. Austin trey. UR ties at 40 and takes the lead. Builds to 64-58 at 5:09. Dragons bounce back and pull even at 69 on Austin 3-pointer off K. Wilson feed. Y'jackets land five free throws over final 53-seconds.
  Difference found in fg shooting -- Corts 24x66 basically because just 8x32 behind the arc. UR 24x54, 7x15 3-pters. J. Davis tops Dragons with 19pts, 6x14fg, 7x10ft, 10reb, 6assts, 35' followed by Leveille, A. Coston 10pts, 7rebs, 32'; Wilson 10pts in 26'. Seniors C. Oprea, T. Adetosoye pace UR with 20pts apiece.
  Cortland hosts Ithaca next Thursday.

Oswego crushes Mt. St. Vincent 106-66, shooting 40x79fg. Thirteen Lakers score, S. Bradley 17pts in 21', D. Judd 14pts in 18', J. Maghee 14pts in 10'. Oswego in own Max Ziel tourney final Saturday vs. Union, 84-55 rollover vs. SUNY Poly. J. Plesser 23pts, 10x15fg, 10reb in 29'.

Canton bows 87-73 at Norwich VT. B. Streb 18pts, 10pts for Roos.

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I'm hearing Potsdam is very bad this season; possibly worse than Canton. Sad to see. They had a really nice squad a few years back with Isiah Brown who transferred in, became an All American and led them to the SUNYAC finals and then transferred out.  They just can't attract enough talent and when they occasionally do, they can't retain it.