NESCAC

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Hotskull

Quote from: SKUD on Today at 09:12:30 AMMust have missed that in your pontificating.

I had to google that word as my SAT English score was not on par with that of the NESCAC standard. However, I too would think it's annoying to hear about someone constantly praising the success of a team I am not a fan of.

Newenglander

Well - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and one region with zero.

smoova

Quote from: Newenglander on Today at 12:00:21 PMWell - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and one region with zero.

Wes is in that last region.

Newenglander

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Quote from: smoova on Today at 12:13:05 PM
Quote from: Newenglander on Today at 12:00:21 PMWell - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and Weslyan alone.

Wes is in that last region.
apologies - corrected - Just reminds me of the travel soccer days when you spend time and money to travel only to play the same team 30 minutes away from you for the dozenth time......and yes I know there are a couple of wins along the way before that happens.....

maineman

Quote from: maineman on Today at 10:57:34 AMTufts needs to be reassigned to the UAA!
This is "tongue in cheek."  It has been said for years that Tufts would be better suited to the UAA because of their size and graduate schools.  I am sure they won't do it because of transportation costs and hockey.  There is no hockey in the UAA and I am sure they are very happy being in the NESCAC.

camosfan

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

deiscanton

Quote from: maineman on Today at 12:30:33 PM
Quote from: maineman on Today at 10:57:34 AMTufts needs to be reassigned to the UAA!
This is "tongue in cheek."  It has been said for years that Tufts would be better suited to the UAA because of their size and graduate schools.  I am sure they won't do it because of transportation costs and hockey.  There is no hockey in the UAA and I am sure they are very happy being in the NESCAC.

Somehow, maineman, when you wrote that post, I had the feeling that you knew that Tufts was going to be the #1 seed at the Brandeis site this weekend-- more than a half hour before the bracket got revealed!

As for me, I adopt Curry as my "Home" D3 men's ice hockey team.  Curry plays their home games in Canton, MA, after all!  (I will probably be in my grave before Brandeis gets a varsity ice hockey team!)

smoova

Quote from: camosfan on Today at 12:39:29 PMsize does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

You may want to consider the admissions angle at high academic schools ...

northman

Quote from: camosfan on Today at 12:39:29 PMsize does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

I'm not so sure about that.  My older son played for an Ivy and had an easier time meeting their academic criteria than he would have at a NESCAC.  A larger enrollment allows for more "diversity" (I know that's a loaded word these days) choices among each entering class.  What I don't know is whether the NESCAC has clear student athlete recruiting standards that are stricter than the Ivies.  Perhaps someone on this thread knows the answer to that.

Newenglander

Quote from: northman on Today at 01:30:13 PM
Quote from: camosfan on Today at 12:39:29 PMsize does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

I'm not so sure about that.  My older son played for an Ivy and had an easier time meeting their academic criteria than he would have at a NESCAC.  A larger enrollment allows for more "diversity" (I know that's a loaded word these days) choices among each entering class.  What I don't know is whether the NESCAC has clear student athlete recruiting standards that are stricter than the Ivies.  Perhaps someone on this thread knows the answer to that.

Probably not that straightforward - each school has their own average academic requirements/levels which you can find online. From there it depends where your player fits academically (I would say if you are being actively recruited at any of these schools you are a great student off the bat). I know NESCAC uses bands and assume it's similar in the Ivies: A = could be admitted without soccer B= admitted with a little help C = needs the most help. I'm sure each school/coach has varying degrees of sway to help with admissions as well.

So some of it comes down to where you land and then just as importantly how much does your coach want to use their influence on the player in the B and C - only so many bullets in the gun.

My player had offers at an ivy and 2 NESCAC schools but told not an "academic fit" at another - sometimes that's a coach's polite way of saying they don't want to use that spot on you......

College Soccer Observer

I had a discussion with the coaches at my son's school.  It was along the lines of why multiple women's programs (hockey, lacrosse, field hockey) were winning national championships while the men's sports in general were not at that level.  I was told that having a C on the transcript basically rules you out.  The coach said too many freshman boys goof off their first year of high school and make themselves inadmissible, whereas the girls are less likely to do that in their freshman year.  This gives the men a smaller pool of student athletes to recruit from.