NESCAC

[camosfan]

exactly!

[Ejay]

All I'm saying is show me you belong there by actually doing something in the regular season. Take Bowdoin last year. 7-5-5, and those 7 wins were nothing special.
 
U New England (5-8-5)
Colby (6-8-1)
Husson (8-6-4)
Wheaton (6-5-7)
Trinity (2-13)
St. Joseph's ME (8-8-3)
U. So. Maine (2-10-6)

That's just weak sauce.

[camosfan]

But they accounted for themselves in the NCAA tournament until they were beaten in Trinity!

[MunnyTim]

I would say as the biggest homer out there (yes, fan of both the NESCAC and the Camels) and someone who has been involved in NCAA D3 athletics as long as many people have been alive, I do have a mild issue with a league getting 7-8 bids to the NCAA tourney.  I appreciate the analytics that are involved now (removes some of the politics and artificial barriers that existed), but 7-8 teams from any particular conference feels a bit like overkill.  It also reduces opportunity for student-athletes and institutions who come from less advantaged leagues.

So, I see it both ways.  All 8 NESCAC teams that made the NCAA's last year made it to the round of 32.  However, I still feel a tad anxious about the lack of opportunity that presents to other institutions.

[northman]

Thanks.  Makes sense.  And now we have a Midd fan suggesting that Midd will romp easily to the national title...

LOL. Are you referring to me? As the only Midd fan who has posted today, I'm assuming so.

Curious as to how you interpreted my post as a suggestion that Midd will romp easily to a national title.

To recap:

• I stated that Midd had an emphatic win at Williams today
• I stated this locked the Panthers into the 6th seed against an opponent tbd
• I stated that those who calculate NPI numbers predict the win gets Middlebury into the tournament.
• I stated that a win or two in conference tourney would only solidify a tournament berth.
• I stated nothing further.

Bucket, I was not referring to your post.  I had seen an earlier post...which has either disappeared or appeared in another thread...where a Middlebury fan referred to two Middlebury players by name and their convincing recent wins over Bates and Williams.  That poster seemed to be quite bullish on Middlebury's momentum moving forward through the NCAA tournament.  My apologies for any misunderstanding.

As for nescacfan246 welcoming me to "the CAC", I've been following the NESCAC in a variety of sports since my younger son started playing soccer in the NESCAC in the fall of 2007.  So, I reckon I've seen a few things in that time...  :-)

[Freddyfud]

It will be interesting to see if the Championship committee adjusts the dial from the current 15/85 after this season since last year was inaugural and they cannot be changed until after a minimum of 2 season.

[SKUD]

It will be interesting to see if the Championship committee adjusts the dial from the current 15/85 after this season since last year was inaugural and they cannot be changed until after a minimum of 2 season.

I hope they move it but have no idea what the correct number would be. As much as some don't want 7-8 from a conference. I don't want the Pfeifer's and  Mount St. Vincent's of the world getting into the tournament as at large bids.

[kansas hokie]

I think more about the Catholic and Wheaton (IL) type teams that are right at the bubble this year but, if they don't win the auto bid, will likely drop below a Hamilton and miss out. Both have great records and I wish they had a chance to get in over the 8th team from NESCAC.

[Kuiper]

It will be interesting to see if the Championship committee adjusts the dial from the current 15/85 after this season since last year was inaugural and they cannot be changed until after a minimum of 2 season.

I hope they move it but have no idea what the correct number would be. As much as some don't want 7-8 from a conference. I don't want the Pfeifer's and  Mount St. Vincent's of the world getting into the tournament as at large bids.

Men are currently 15% (win)/85% (strength of schedule), while women's soccer are 20%/80%.  If the women's system is working well, I could see at least some conversation about moving to their percentage allocation.  It's not a huge change and there's no particular reason to have men and women weighting wins/losses and strength-of-schedule differently. There is a potential cost to every additional push toward SoS, both in terms of additional expense traveling to find stronger opponents and the difficulty of predictably planning a "strong" schedule (both for strong teams predicting who will be strong next year and for weak teams to find strong teams willing to play them). 

The women do have a different minimum win # (8 rather than 10 for men), but I doubt the men's committee would change that.

[deiscanton]

We are now in the final two weeks of the regular season.  From now on, the NCAA DIII Men's Soccer Committee is planning to do daily runs of the NPI numbers and release daily NPI summary reports until the end of conference tournament play on Sunday, November 9.  The final report released will then indicate that it is the selections report and the at-large teams will be picked from that report. 

This most recent daily NPI run covers games through Tuesday, October 28, 2025.

The report is available at http://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/46439

NESCAC teams nationally ranked by NPI as of this report

1.) Tufts (#1 in NPI)-- 60.754
2.) Bowdoin (#4 in NPI)-- 59.086
3.) Connecticut College (#7 in NPI)-- 58.479
4.) Wesleyan (#11 in NPI)-- 58.303
5.) Williams (#12 in NPI)-- 58.125
6.) Middlebury (#18 in NPI)-- 57.495
7.) Amherst (#27 in NPI)-- 56.921
8.) Hamilton (#38 in NPI)-- 55.773
9.) Bates (#52 in NPI)-- 55.109
10.) Colby (#55 in NPI)-- 55.018

10 of the 11 NESCAC men's soccer teams currently carry quality win bonuses, as their NPIs are above 54.

11.)  Trinity (CT)  (#144 in NPI)-- 51.644

[LibbyMoore]

I can't swear to it, but I think Hamilton was the only NESCAC not to have a game on Hot Tues.

What are the chances Hamilton sneaks into the National tournament Kansas Hokie?

Hamilton is going to be a sort of interesting team. They have only one more game now and I have that as a win. That will give them a final NPI of 55.784 which is going to be very very close to the cut line. Hamilton fans will want to cheer for no "bid stealers" (unexpected conference tourney champions). Cheer hard for Bowdoin to win NESCAC as that's Hamilton's only team they beat that it's in the conference tourney. After that, Wesleyan and Middlebury would be good. Ithaca winning their conference also would help. Any small bump up could be the difference. There will be wiggles up and down as the games come in. Should be interesting.

[kansas hokie]

NESCAC has 7 teams that I think have clinched NCAA bids. Bates is out but can still win and get in, even as at large (beat Tufts, lose to Williams for example, NPI would be 55.75 then). Hamilton will be hoping to stay in.

7 for sure, 2 more possible.

[deiscanton]

We are now in the final two weeks of the regular season.  From now on, the NCAA DIII Men's Soccer Committee is planning to do daily runs of the NPI numbers and release daily NPI summary reports until the end of conference tournament play on Sunday, November 9.  The final report released will then indicate that it is the selections report and the at-large teams will be picked from that report. 

This most recent daily NPI run covers games through Wednesday, October 29, 2025.

The report is available at http://stats.ncaa.org/selection_rankings/nitty_gritties/46454

NESCAC teams nationally ranked by NPI as of this report

1.) Tufts (#1 in NPI)-- 60.936
2.) Bowdoin (#4 in NPI)-- 59.195
3.) Connecticut College (#9 in NPI)-- 58.572
4.) Wesleyan (#10 in NPI)-- 58.440
5.) Williams (#13 in NPI)-- 58.213
6.) Middlebury (#18 in NPI)-- 57.611
7.) Amherst (#27 in NPI)-- 57.041
8.) Hamilton (#37 in NPI)-- 55.861
9.) Bates (#50 in NPI)-- 55.186
10.) Colby (#54 in NPI)-- 55.128

10 of the 11 NESCAC men's soccer teams currently carry quality win bonuses, as their NPIs are above 54.

11.)  Trinity (CT)  (#146 in NPI)-- 51.647

[rdanie03]

It has become very clear that the top 7 in the NESCAC will play in the NCAA tournament. The only questions are Bates(who needs to at the very minimum get to PKs in Medford Saturday) and Hamilton(who needs the most chalk conference tournament year of all time).