NESCAC

[Hotskull]

Must have missed that in your pontificating.

I had to google that word as my SAT English score was not on par with that of the NESCAC standard. However, I too would think it's annoying to hear about someone constantly praising the success of a team I am not a fan of.

[Newenglander]

Well - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and one region with zero.

[smoova]

Well - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and one region with zero.

Wes is in that last region.

[Newenglander]

Well - not sure of the NESCAC Protection Index applied to the tournament organizers - seems odd - Tufts, Conn, and Bowdoin all in the same bracket region.......Middlebury and Williams in one.......Amherst alone.......and Weslyan alone.

Wes is in that last region.

apologies - corrected - Just reminds me of the travel soccer days when you spend time and money to travel only to play the same team 30 minutes away from you for the dozenth time......and yes I know there are a couple of wins along the way before that happens.....

[maineman]

Tufts needs to be reassigned to the UAA!

This is "tongue in cheek."  It has been said for years that Tufts would be better suited to the UAA because of their size and graduate schools.  I am sure they won't do it because of transportation costs and hockey.  There is no hockey in the UAA and I am sure they are very happy being in the NESCAC.

[camosfan]

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

[deiscanton]

Tufts needs to be reassigned to the UAA!

This is "tongue in cheek."  It has been said for years that Tufts would be better suited to the UAA because of their size and graduate schools.  I am sure they won't do it because of transportation costs and hockey.  There is no hockey in the UAA and I am sure they are very happy being in the NESCAC.

Somehow, maineman, when you wrote that post, I had the feeling that you knew that Tufts was going to be the #1 seed at the Brandeis site this weekend-- more than a half hour before the bracket got revealed!

As for me, I adopt Curry as my "Home" D3 men's ice hockey team.  Curry plays their home games in Canton, MA, after all!  (I will probably be in my grave before Brandeis gets a varsity ice hockey team!)

[smoova]

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

You may want to consider the admissions angle at high academic schools ...

[northman]

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

I'm not so sure about that.  My older son played for an Ivy and had an easier time meeting their academic criteria than he would have at a NESCAC.  A larger enrollment allows for more "diversity" (I know that's a loaded word these days) choices among each entering class.  What I don't know is whether the NESCAC has clear student athlete recruiting standards that are stricter than the Ivies.  Perhaps someone on this thread knows the answer to that.

[Newenglander]

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

I'm not so sure about that.  My older son played for an Ivy and had an easier time meeting their academic criteria than he would have at a NESCAC.  A larger enrollment allows for more "diversity" (I know that's a loaded word these days) choices among each entering class.  What I don't know is whether the NESCAC has clear student athlete recruiting standards that are stricter than the Ivies.  Perhaps someone on this thread knows the answer to that.

Probably not that straightforward - each school has their own average academic requirements/levels which you can find online. From there it depends where your player fits academically (I would say if you are being actively recruited at any of these schools you are a great student off the bat). I know NESCAC uses bands and assume it's similar in the Ivies: A = could be admitted without soccer B= admitted with a little help C = needs the most help. I'm sure each school/coach has varying degrees of sway to help with admissions as well.

So some of it comes down to where you land and then just as importantly how much does your coach want to use their influence on the player in the B and C - only so many bullets in the gun.

My player had offers at an ivy and 2 NESCAC schools but told not an "academic fit" at another - sometimes that's a coach's polite way of saying they don't want to use that spot on you......

[College Soccer Observer]

I had a discussion with the coaches at my son's school.  It was along the lines of why multiple women's programs (hockey, lacrosse, field hockey) were winning national championships while the men's sports in general were not at that level.  I was told that having a C on the transcript basically rules you out.  The coach said too many freshman boys goof off their first year of high school and make themselves inadmissible, whereas the girls are less likely to do that in their freshman year.  This gives the men a smaller pool of student athletes to recruit from.

[D3Reporter]

size does not give any school an advantage, the rosters are basically the same size, in addition coaches don't go into the student body to find players!

I'm not so sure about that.  My older son played for an Ivy and had an easier time meeting their academic criteria than he would have at a NESCAC.  A larger enrollment allows for more "diversity" (I know that's a loaded word these days) choices among each entering class.  What I don't know is whether the NESCAC has clear student athlete recruiting standards that are stricter than the Ivies.  Perhaps someone on this thread knows the answer to that.

This argument is so theoretical and always confuses me when it's brought up. It implies that the academic factor isn't important at ARGUABLY the most academically prestigious of the NESCACS (or at least one of them...not meaning to open another can of worms).

Separate from the theory...it is a fact that a couple years ago a high level recruit (I believe from PA Classics Academy but not 100% on that) who made it past the pre-read stage at Tufts was denied admission. I say that as an example not an extensive list.

Let's stop biting on the ragebait and focus on the tournament rather than who "should or should not be a NESCAC."

[Camel_Supporter]

Hi everyone,
Figured it was a good time to get in the game. Im a Conn Coll Mens Soccer Alum. Won't reveal my identity, but played during the Ken Murphy era. Of course, have remained an ardent Camel supporter since graduating from school, and nothing made me happier than seeing the boys win the national championship (crazy to think we could have a second).

Was impressed by the game yesterday. Conn doesnt have an all American difference maker, like a Devlin, anymore, but it's remarkable how cohesive of a team they are. Never gets old seeing the team move the ball around. If only we played this way when I was around...but the level of talent these days is ridiculous.

Was happy to see we made it to the tourney. I actually am quite happy with the draw. I wouldn't be surprised to see us make it through the first few games quite comfortably. For those saying Tufts is a shoe-in for this tourney, I beg to differ. Anything can happen in a one off game, and even going back to my time with a far worse team, we always seemed to play Tufts close. I do think whoever makes it out between Tufts and Conn will make it to the final, though.

Look forward to finally joining this community after years of watching from the outside.

 

[Freddyfud]

Hi everyone,
Figured it was a good time to get in the game. Im a Conn Coll Mens Soccer Alum. Won't reveal my identity, but played during the Ken Murphy era. Of course, have remained an ardent Camel supporter since graduating from school, and nothing made me happier than seeing the boys win the national championship (crazy to think we could have a second).

Was impressed by the game yesterday. Conn doesnt have an all American difference maker, like a Devlin, anymore, but it's remarkable how cohesive of a team they are. Never gets old seeing the team move the ball around. If only we played this way when I was around...but the level of talent these days is ridiculous.

Was happy to see we made it to the tourney. I actually am quite happy with the draw. I wouldn't be surprised to see us make it through the first few games quite comfortably. For those saying Tufts is a shoe-in for this tourney, I beg to differ. Anything can happen in a one off game, and even going back to my time with a far worse team, we always seemed to play Tufts close. I do think whoever makes it out between Tufts and Conn will make it to the final, though.

Look forward to finally joining this community after years of watching from the outside.

 

Welcome!

[MunnyTim]

Camel_Supporter, welcome to the team and the conversation.  I suspect you and I were on the same sideline on Sunday and observed the same level of play.  And yes, Devlin was awesome back in the Kenny era.  Loved watching that young man play, especially when he knocked in the winning penalty in the NESCAC quarterfinal against Williams (after a super late equalizer in regulation from someone else) on Harkness field.  One of my best Conn memories, right there.

Fingers crossed you can get down here for the action on Saturday or Sunday.