SUNYAC 2015

Started by Mr.Right, September 18, 2015, 02:19:44 PM

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Mr.Right

Golden Fan who are your top 6 to make the SUNYAC tournament?

In no particular order my hunch is:

Oneonta, Cortland, Plattsburgh, Geneseo, Brockport and Potsdam. 

Buff State and Oswego have a shot

New Paltz and Fredonia no chance

Golden_Fan

Fredonia definitely doesn't have a shot.

First 4 (no order): Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Brockport, Cortland

Last two would be Geneseo followed by potsdam with Buff state having a shot to sneak in.

New paltz then oswego have a very outside chance at making it.

It is always tough to play up in windy oswego so I wouldn't be surprised if there are any weird results up there

Mr.Right

Yes Oswego is right on Lake Ontario...High winds for sure

Golden_Fan

It was always terrible to play up there. One half you'd be able to clear a ball 80 yards and the next you wouldn't be able to kick it 30

Golden_Fan

Well that's a surprise, Cortland falls to New Paltz 2-1

Mr.Right

WOW...I cannot believe that..I saw New Paltz once this year and was not terribly impressed not to mention their weak non-conference schedule but that why you play the games...What was the Shots and SOG?

Golden_Fan

#21
19(6) - 13(7) in favor of cortland

Oneonta won 3-1 and geneseo won 3-0

Brockport and Buff state going into ot tied at 2, buff state down to 10 men

Ommadawn

Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 25, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
Brockport and Buff state going into ot tied at 2, buff state down to 10 men

Buffalo playing a man down due to a red card.


PaulNewman

How do you get these before they've been posted on the NSCAA site?  Or an I missing something?  And did they really rank Tufts #19???  Can you post the national list?

Golden_Fan

National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474       will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476       will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477        Mid-Atlantic

and so on.

When ever the national poll is updated it will be here

http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482

AUPepBand

Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 29, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474       will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476       will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477        Mid-Atlantic

and so on.

When ever the national poll is updated it will be here

http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482

This is all fine and good but the record for Alfred University is all screwed up because someone doesn't know the difference between Alfred University and Alfred State College. For instance, Buffalo State is listed as having beaten Alfred University 2-0. AU never played Buffalo State in soccer. It was Alfred State. Further, AU is listed as having LOST to Elmira 3-0 on Sept. 22 then TYING Elmira on Sept. 26. It was Alfred State that lost to Elmira on Sept. 22.....AU and Elmira battled to a 3-3 tie on Sept. 26.

AU's current record is 6-1-2 with a 2-0 win AT Middle Atlantic ranked King's College last week. AU had a 4-4 tie with Oswego State and a 3-3 tie with Elmira. The Saxons' lone loss of the season was its opener against Geneva College, 3-2. Here's a link to their results: http://www.gosaxons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc

Not complaining about rankings here, in due time, AU will appear in the rankings. But if the rankings are based on misinformation, any consideration of Alfred will certainly be skewed when AU is credited with losses of the Alfred State men's soccer team across the street.



On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!

Flying Weasel

PepBand, if you browse through different team schedules on the NSCAA site, you'll find some teams have a third or less of their games listed.  Not sure if the NSCAA is maintaining their own database of schedules or is using/linking into to some other site. But the bottom line is that those incomplete schedules (and apparently incorrect at times) are not what the voting coaches are looking at and using which is partially evidences by noting the games listed for each team in the regional and national rankings.  I wouldn't worry about this.

Mid-Atlantic Fan

Quote from: AUPepBand on September 29, 2015, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 29, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474       will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476       will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477        Mid-Atlantic

and so on.

When ever the national poll is updated it will be here

http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482

This is all fine and good but the record for Alfred University is all screwed up because someone doesn't know the difference between Alfred University and Alfred State College. For instance, Buffalo State is listed as having beaten Alfred University 2-0. AU never played Buffalo State in soccer. It was Alfred State. Further, AU is listed as having LOST to Elmira 3-0 on Sept. 22 then TYING Elmira on Sept. 26. It was Alfred State that lost to Elmira on Sept. 22.....AU and Elmira battled to a 3-3 tie on Sept. 26.

AU's current record is 6-1-2 with a 2-0 win AT Middle Atlantic ranked King's College last week. AU had a 4-4 tie with Oswego State and a 3-3 tie with Elmira. The Saxons' lone loss of the season was its opener against Geneva College, 3-2. Here's a link to their results: http://www.gosaxons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc

Not complaining about rankings here, in due time, AU will appear in the rankings. But if the rankings are based on misinformation, any consideration of Alfred will certainly be skewed when AU is credited with losses of the Alfred State men's soccer team across the street.

Alfred wouldn't be ranked. From the looks of their schedule they haven't played anybody worth noting. Maybe Geneva, which is their loss so that doesn't help their case. Geneva is RV regionally but not in the top 10 of a tough Great Lakes region. I wouldn't consider Kings a "good win." It's nice that it was on the road and that they got a shut out but other than that it's just a win against an average team. Elmira is obviously better than last year, but a 3-3 tie doesn't help their cause.

AUPepBand

Quote from: Flying Weasel on September 30, 2015, 09:06:12 AM
PepBand, if you browse through different team schedules on the NSCAA site, you'll find some teams have a third or less of their games listed.  Not sure if the NSCAA is maintaining their own database of schedules or is using/linking into to some other site. But the bottom line is that those incomplete schedules (and apparently incorrect at times) are not what the voting coaches are looking at and using which is partially evidences by noting the games listed for each team in the regional and national rankings.  I wouldn't worry about this.

Thanks for your response. No worries here. Just inquiring. Curious where voting coaches get their information if not from the data on the NSCAA website? For example, Buffalo State's record of 6-2-2 in the rankings is correct and lines up with the data on the NSCAA website EXCEPT the NSCAA website gives Buffalo State a 2-0 win over Alfred UNIVERSITY; the Buffalo State website is correct and says Alfred STATE.

And, because of the mix-up of Alfred State and Alfred University, AU's record on the NSCAA website is 6-3-2 rather than 6-1-2 because the Saxons are credited with two of Alfred State's losses.



On Saxon Warriors! On to Victory!
...Fight, fight for Alfred, A-L-F, R-E-D!