2026 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

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Quote from: Gregory Sager on Yesterday at 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: jknezek on Yesterday at 10:43:01 AMLook, JHU is not a "peer institution" for the CC. That doesn't mean they don't belong in DIII, it just means it can feel a little unfair to those other institutions. But that's a conference decision, and I suspect the Presidents in the CC like being under the halo of being spoken of in the same breath as JHU, even if it is in sports and not medical research.

This halo effect works in reverse situations as well. Look no further than Caltech, which for decades has been dragged around like an anchor by the rest of the SCIAC, competitively speaking, because the cachet of sharing a conference with one of the most distinguished and prestigious research institutions on the entire planet was important enough for the rest of the SCIAC schools to retain the membership of an opponent that they beat like a rug in almost every sport year after year after year. To a lesser degree this halo effect characterized Macalester's relationship to the rest of the MIAC for many years as well, especially with regard to football.

It's common for current students to be somewhat myopic to the big-picture relationships that schools have with each other. There's certainly more to how schools relate to other institutions, both within and outside of conferences, than scoreboards and standings.
The SCIAC is on an island, and Caltech was an early member.  The admissions process required the professors to approve the students directly.  Maybe THAT was the reverse halo effect you mention.  They changed this a few years ago and actually encourage team membership (varsity or intramural) because that is part of the world they will work in.  The coaches now have some input. They still have trouble in some sports.  Everybody has trouble with pitchers.
I remember the national NPR news when they beat Oxy in basketball after years without a SCIAC win.

In the past there was a lot a bad vibes on the SCIAC basketball board about Caltech because some of the posters think D3 is all about winning.   
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Quote from: Gray Fox on Yesterday at 03:40:48 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on Yesterday at 01:41:15 PM
Quote from: jknezek on Yesterday at 10:43:01 AMLook, JHU is not a "peer institution" for the CC. That doesn't mean they don't belong in DIII, it just means it can feel a little unfair to those other institutions. But that's a conference decision, and I suspect the Presidents in the CC like being under the halo of being spoken of in the same breath as JHU, even if it is in sports and not medical research.

This halo effect works in reverse situations as well. Look no further than Caltech, which for decades has been dragged around like an anchor by the rest of the SCIAC, competitively speaking, because the cachet of sharing a conference with one of the most distinguished and prestigious research institutions on the entire planet was important enough for the rest of the SCIAC schools to retain the membership of an opponent that they beat like a rug in almost every sport year after year after year. To a lesser degree this halo effect characterized Macalester's relationship to the rest of the MIAC for many years as well, especially with regard to football.

It's common for current students to be somewhat myopic to the big-picture relationships that schools have with each other. There's certainly more to how schools relate to other institutions, both within and outside of conferences, than scoreboards and standings.
The SCIAC is on an island, and Caltech was an early member.  The admissions process required the professors to approve the students directly.  Maybe THAT was the reverse halo effect you mention.  They changed this a few years ago and actually encourage team membership (varsity or intramural) because that is part of the world they will work in.  The coaches now have some input. They still have trouble in some sports.  Everybody has trouble with pitchers.
I remember the national NPR news when they beat Oxy in basketball after years without a SCIAC win.

In the past there was a lot a bad vibes on the SCIAC basketball board about Caltech because some of the posters think D3 is all about winning.   

One side note on this point. Caltech did switch to give coaches a little bit of a say in admissions, but they switched back in Fall 2024.  This was announced before the 2024-2025 admissions cycle, so it only started to affect freshman in Fall 2025 and we probably didn't notice any difference. We may still may not notice a difference in Fall 2026 since juniors and seniors will drive the teams, but I'm watching the long-term effects. I totally get what Caltech did and can't disagree with it, but I hope that the modest success of the teams (e.g., winning a few games, not actually being nationally competitive) may have made the school more attractive to uber smart kids who also play sports.

https://tech.caltech.edu/2024/10/08/ug-admissions-athletics/

QuoteIn an email to the Caltech community on September 5, 2024, Professors Kevin Gilmartin and Gil Refael announced two changes to the Institute's undergraduate admissions process—reinstating standardized testing and reducing the weight of athletics. These changes "reaffirm Caltech's commitment to academic merit and excellence, and are crucial to fulfilling the Institute's Mission: 'to expand human knowledge and benefit society through research integrated with education.' "

Regarding athletics, the email stated that "the admissions process will reduce the weight that has been placed on athletics participation, and assign athletics participation and any other extracurricular activities a comparable weight." The Tech learned more about this change in a conversation with Professor Omer Tamuz, faculty chair of the First-Year Admissions and Financial Aid Committee.

Over the last ten years, Caltech's sports teams have drastically improved. During this time, athletics became more involved in admissions and the teams became composed of considerably more recruited athletes. Professor Tamuz stated that this shift towards athletics happened slowly through changes made organically within the system, and the faculty were not really aware of it.

The bylaws of Caltech put the responsibility of admitting students on the faculty. Some faculty were involved in the shift towards athletics, such as the past chairs of the First-Year Admissions and Financial Aid Committee and of the Athletics & Physical Education Committee. However, much of the faculty felt like there was no discussion about this change of policy which resulted in the number of recruited athletes going from very few to over ÂĽ of the student body.

There are many differing opinions among the faculty about reducing the weight of athletics in admissions. Professor Tamuz stated that the Faculty Board spent a lot of time discussing it last year. While they did not reach a consensus at the end of the discussions, "a large majority came to the decision that admissions should not involve athletics." He also said that the prevalent opinion among the faculty is that athletics is helpful for students to get through their studies here. Still, the mission of Caltech is clear: "I think athletics supports the Caltech mission of education because it helps the students, at least the athletes, have a better experience here, but I don't think that athletics in and of itself is part of the mission."

An important sentiment to be made clear is that admissions was confident in all the student-athletes that have been admitted in the past few years. Professor Tamuz stated, "We're very happy with all the students that we admitted, but we're going to have a change of priorities in the future... I think we're going to shift some of the priorities of admissions away from athletic ability. Our student-athletes are very strong in their schoolwork and they have very strong applications, and we'll continue admitting them, based on their academic ability."

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Yeah, not sure how it should or should not be, but imo Hop is an odd situation. Truly Too big for D3, but a medium to low D1 program, obv not talking about lacrosse. JHU has over 6k in undergrads and 26k in graduate students. By having access to grad students, several of its sports have really benefitted which is a real plus in D3. Example 2022 womens soccer D3 champions had 9 grad students. Comparison to 98% (guesstimate) bigger the other D3 schools. Next highest enrollment in the Cent Conf is 2400 or 2500 or so. So at least twice as many of students.

IMO Hop would be ideally in the Patriot League. What may be the difference is the D1 lacrosse program. FYI, before going Big10 in 2015, they were a long time independent team.