2026 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

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Hopkins92

Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on August 14, 2026, 07:40:24 PMVery interesting article from May, 2026. Worth the read, talking about how irrelevant D1 soccer has become and uses stats. https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2026/The-2026-USMNT-Is-the-Best-American-Soccer-Team-in-History-It-Still-Isnt-Good-Enough

The other issue, and I need to be careful because I don't have any actual numbers on this, is the socio-economic/striving to make your (and your family's) life better aspect.

It's a big factor in a lot of other countries when it comes to football. In America, that cohort is focused on Football and Basketball. Interesting to note that in those sports, college is still an essential feeder system into the professional ranks.

But, when you look at the professional football rosters currently and throughout history, a ton of the best players come from poor, hardscrabble backgrounds.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: Hopkins92 on August 18, 2026, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on August 14, 2026, 07:40:24 PMVery interesting article from May, 2026. Worth the read, talking about how irrelevant D1 soccer has become and uses stats. https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2026/The-2026-USMNT-Is-the-Best-American-Soccer-Team-in-History-It-Still-Isnt-Good-Enough

The other issue, and I need to be careful because I don't have any actual numbers on this, is the socio-economic/striving to make your (and your family's) life better aspect.

It's a big factor in a lot of other countries when it comes to football. In America, that cohort is focused on Football and Basketball. Interesting to note that in those sports, college is still an essential feeder system into the professional ranks.

But, when you look at the professional football rosters currently and throughout history, a ton of the best players come from poor, hardscrabble backgrounds.

The funny thing about that is, once upon a time, in the northernmost tier of the U.S. and in Canada kids from poor, hardscrabble backgrounds tended to look to hockey as a means of economic striving for the same reason as soccer in other countries. That is to say, poor kids could play the sport and develop their skills from a young age because of the minimal equipment requirement and the ubiquity of available playing surfaces. Every town had ponds and creeks that would freeze over and the winters were long, and if you could obtain a stick and a pair of skates (often getting them as hand-me-downs from fathers, older brothers, or older neighbors) you were ready to play the game.

Now it costs so much to play youth hockey in the U.S. that the sport is generally limited to children from upper middle class homes.
"When it comes to life, the critical thing is whether you take things for granted or take them with gratitude." ― G.K. Chesterton

stlawus

Quote from: Hopkins92 on August 18, 2026, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on August 14, 2026, 07:40:24 PMVery interesting article from May, 2026. Worth the read, talking about how irrelevant D1 soccer has become and uses stats. https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2026/The-2026-USMNT-Is-the-Best-American-Soccer-Team-in-History-It-Still-Isnt-Good-Enough

The other issue, and I need to be careful because I don't have any actual numbers on this, is the socio-economic/striving to make your (and your family's) life better aspect.

It's a big factor in a lot of other countries when it comes to football. In America, that cohort is focused on Football and Basketball. Interesting to note that in those sports, college is still an essential feeder system into the professional ranks.

But, when you look at the professional football rosters currently and throughout history, a ton of the best players come from poor, hardscrabble backgrounds.

For his faults as a tactical manager, this is one thing Jurgen Klinsmann has nailed.  Whenever he is asked why we aren't a soccer power, his first answer is always about how in the US most parents try to do everything they can to get their kids into the best college possible.  That is completely contrary to the system of producing widespread soccer talent since player development is most critical between ages 14-18.  You can talk about pay to play until the cows come home, but unless you break this socioeconomic and psychological stranglehold it will always be an uphill battle.  Good luck trying to convince the parents of a promising teenage prospect that they should put their plans to attend Stanford or Duke on hold and instead commit to a professional academy.  The median nuclear parent in this country will react to that like someone just threw acid in their face.

Kuiper

Quote from: stlawus on August 18, 2026, 08:24:55 PM
Quote from: Hopkins92 on August 18, 2026, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on August 14, 2026, 07:40:24 PMVery interesting article from May, 2026. Worth the read, talking about how irrelevant D1 soccer has become and uses stats. https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2026/The-2026-USMNT-Is-the-Best-American-Soccer-Team-in-History-It-Still-Isnt-Good-Enough

The other issue, and I need to be careful because I don't have any actual numbers on this, is the socio-economic/striving to make your (and your family's) life better aspect.

It's a big factor in a lot of other countries when it comes to football. In America, that cohort is focused on Football and Basketball. Interesting to note that in those sports, college is still an essential feeder system into the professional ranks.

But, when you look at the professional football rosters currently and throughout history, a ton of the best players come from poor, hardscrabble backgrounds.
Good luck trying to convince the parents of a promising teenage prospect that they should put their plans to attend Stanford or Duke on hold and instead commit to a professional academy.  The median nuclear parent in this country will react to that like someone just threw acid in their face.

I don't think your point in bold above is really true for most of the country. MLS Academy is firmly a pathway to top college soccer.  Check out the rosters of Stanford, Duke, Indiana etc and you'll see tons of players from MLS Academies.  The problem is that MLS Academies place more kids in college soccer and European pro club systems than they place on MLS rosters these days.  The middle group goes to MLS Next Pro teams, which has not really developed as an MLS feeder. 

I see plenty of kids who absolutely have no interest in college at all except as a last resort, but they generally aspire to Liga MX.  In SoCal, tons of good, but not necessarily superstar, players, routinely turn down solid college opportunities for U19 and U23 spots in Liga MX Academies and they grind away with the hope it will lead to a pro contract.

VASoccerDad

Quote from: VASoccerDad on August 17, 2026, 06:00:04 AM
Quote from: Kuiper on August 16, 2026, 05:18:20 PMI kind of love this, but I would love it even better if it was at midnight on the first day of practice:

Denison is hosting a back-to-school tailgate before it's scrimmage v. Case Western Reserve on Wednesday Aug. 26th, including "food, drinks, music, and plenty of good vibes."

For a lot of schools, football gets all the press.  It's nice to see a school pump up its student body for the soccer teams too.

I'll be there...I'll let you know how it goes (from an away fans perspective).

Ok, so I was at the Denison/Case game...here is what I posted in the UAA thread:

Went to the Case/Denison preseason game last night at Denison. Denison hosted a social activation session prior to the game to entice students to attend, giveaways included t-shirts and food (as any school does). Turn out was pretty good, maybe 300-400 people in attendance. Set up was just a few tents in the corner, didn't hear music or really notice anything other than students walking over there.

Case won 3-2, and clearly deserved the win based on play. Denison's two goals were a bit flukey- one was an Olympico where the goalie came out for the ball but got picked off by a couple of players, ball went over his head into far corner. Second was on an mis-hit cross/long ball from about 40 yards out that the Case backup goalie misjudged, allowing it to go over his head into the goal.



Overall, Case played well, played almost everyone a good number of minutes, had 3 different scorers and played good D. The offense looks a bit stronger than last year, but their center forwards didn't show much offensively. A key freshman that plays striker hasn't played in preseason after suffering a concussion on the 2-3 day of preseason practices. Hopefully he will help out with the center forward attack.

Two preseason games, two wins, outscoring opponents 11-3. Hopefully a positive for the upcoming season.