2026 D3 Men's Soccer National Perspective

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Kuiper

D1 news that might be of interest to D3 fans

According to the NCAA's official social media account:

DI Cabinet approves proposal that would move men's soccer to a two-semester playing season. Because it passed with less than 75% of the vote, the proposal will now go to a 30-day rescission period, during which eligible DI schools or conferences can submit a vote to defeat the new rule. If two-thirds of the eligible members do not vote to defeat it, it will subsequently take effect.

The Cabinet's vote is not final until its meeting concludes later today.

CentPA


SierraFD3soccer

Quote from: Kuiper on Yesterday at 03:47:30 PMD1 news that might be of interest to D3 fans

According to the NCAA's official social media account:

DI Cabinet approves proposal that would move men's soccer to a two-semester playing season. Because it passed with less than 75% of the vote, the proposal will now go to a 30-day rescission period, during which eligible DI schools or conferences can submit a vote to defeat the new rule. If two-thirds of the eligible members do not vote to defeat it, it will subsequently take effect.

The Cabinet's vote is not final until its meeting concludes later today.

Sasho Cirovski from Maryland fought for this for 13 yrs. Remember when he first proposed it. Many thought he was crazy. Like it hate it, it def. is different and we will only see. I am a Terp fan and definitely like watching his teams despite the fact the most if not all impactful ones are foreign born on UMD. He resisted for a while before adopting the Marshall model.

Interesting that rather Aug 1st they start on Aug 15 and have the NCAA tournament in late April May rather then in the cold.

Check out is his tweet along with the comments. All interesting imo - https://x.com/SashoCirovski/status/2107950976514822488

SierraFD3soccer

FYI Mont. State's Amer Lukovic is still playing college soccer. He has been playing for Rutgers in his years 5 and 6. After his D3 of year, he was injured. He has 3 goals right now, 2 against Northeastern and one against MD.

Hopkins92

Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on Today at 11:38:13 AM
Quote from: Kuiper on Yesterday at 03:47:30 PMD1 news that might be of interest to D3 fans

According to the NCAA's official social media account:

DI Cabinet approves proposal that would move men's soccer to a two-semester playing season. Because it passed with less than 75% of the vote, the proposal will now go to a 30-day rescission period, during which eligible DI schools or conferences can submit a vote to defeat the new rule. If two-thirds of the eligible members do not vote to defeat it, it will subsequently take effect.

The Cabinet's vote is not final until its meeting concludes later today.

Sasho Cirovski from Maryland fought for this for 13 yrs. Remember when he first proposed it. Many thought he was crazy. Like it hate it, it def. is different and we will only see. I am a Terp fan and definitely like watching his teams despite the fact the most if not all impactful ones are foreign born on UMD. He resisted for a while before adopting the Marshall model.

Interesting that rather Aug 1st they start on Aug 15 and have the NCAA tournament in late April May rather then in the cold.

Check out is his tweet along with the comments. All interesting imo - https://x.com/SashoCirovski/status/2107950976514822488

Yeah, we talked about this... Trying to make college soccer more relevant in the development/pipeline is kind of a fool's errand, but he is right that they needed to do something to counter the MLS academy system funneling the best American talent into the professional model.

jknezek

Quote from: Hopkins92 on Today at 01:30:44 PMYeah, we talked about this... Trying to make college soccer more relevant in the development/pipeline is kind of a fool's errand, but he is right that they needed to do something to counter the MLS academy system funneling the best American talent into the professional model.

Why? I understand that college, particularly D1 college, is the main pro pathway for football and basketball, but it doesn't have to be. I'd argue it shouldn't be. Our current disastrous situation with the transfer portal and NIL indicates how poor a "semi-pro" system college has become. If MLS Academies are the best way forward, then they should be the path for the very small percentage of players that could go pro. They can play soccer at the academies and take college courses if they want, instead of taking college courses to play soccer, which really makes no sense.

The NFL has benefited for years by not having to pay for a minor league. As did basketball, though the much maligned NBA Development League now at least provides something. But there is no reason colleges should play that role, except that traditionally they have. As we've seen, it was highly exploitative of student athletes in select sports, while in other sports it forced "athletes" to try and be "student-athletes."

There is no reason for this to continue. Let the pro teams develop their own talent how they see fit, and let colleges and universities get back to the business of being colleges and universities with athletics as a draw for students who want to play and watch. I know that's naive, especially in regards to D1 football, but that's really what should happen.

There is no reason colleges should be competing to be a "pro-pathway" for sports, especially in a sport like soccer that is a net negative for athletic departments at the D1 level. Pro teams have the ability to fund that as a "business expense", I suggest we let them do so.


SierraFD3soccer

All great points, but now all the teams are relying on int'l talent to include the Sasho who admittedly held back as long as he could imo.  His game on Tues. against Rutgers he two American starters and one American sub out of 15. His last nat'l championship in 2018 of his starters he had 4 int'l and the 4 subs they were all American. This was also the year he had Donovan Pines (played and started at DC United and I think is in Austria now - also the son of the president of UMD) and Canadian Dane St. Clair who played against the US on Tues).

So split schedule imo is wash as to developing American talent as opposed to taking int'l rejects who are older to begin with. Will that reverse, I'm guessing no as recruiting int'l players is much easier than running around the country to go to soccer tournaments. D2 is also full of int'l players and maybe even more so.

All great for D3 though.

Hopkins92

I can see how what I wrote is advocating for what Sasho is pushing, but I'm really not. As I said, it's a fool's errand, but for a guy like Sasho, who wants college soccer to be seen as a path (for some) to professional soccer, he saw it as the path.

The ship sailed long ago. As soon as MLS and US Soccer got vested in transforming the talent pipeline, college soccer was cooked on this front.

jknezek

I think the 5 for 5 rule, and the time when the clock starts ticking, academic year following the athlete's 19th birthday (or sooner if they enroll sooner) will solve some of the "older students coming from abroad" issue. Not all of it of course, it still allows for 24 year olds to play a final season, but I think it will stop some of the issues. Bringing in a 21 or 22 year old knowing you only get 2 or 3 years may not be as attractive as pulling in a 17/18 year old h.s. senior and realizing you get 5 full years out of them if they don't transfer.

Time will tell, and I don't think D3 has adapted the 5 for 5 yet, but with D1 and D2 already on board I think D3 will at some point.

VASoccerDad

I thought I read that D3 is voting on the 5 for 5 rule in January. May be mistaken though...

Gregory Sager

Quote from: SierraFD3soccer on Today at 03:14:08 PMAll great points, but now all the teams are relying on int'l talent to include the Sasho who admittedly held back as long as he could imo.  His game on Tues. against Rutgers he two American starters and one American sub out of 15. His last nat'l championship in 2018 of his starters he had 4 int'l and the 4 subs they were all American. This was also the year he had Donovan Pines (played and started at DC United and I think is in Austria now - also the son of the president of UMD) and Canadian Dane St. Clair who played against the US on Tues).

So split schedule imo is wash as to developing American talent as opposed to taking int'l rejects who are older to begin with. Will that reverse, I'm guessing no as recruiting int'l players is much easier than running around the country to go to soccer tournaments. D2 is also full of int'l players and maybe even more so.

All great for D3 though.

First of all, D3 =/= D1. That includes recruiting scenarios. I think that on some level we all realize that, but it bears repeating, anyway.

At the D3 level, recruiting international players isn't necessarily easier than "running around the country to go to soccer tournaments." For one thing, the vast majority of D3 soccer programs don't recruit nationally, they recruit locally. For another, recruiting D3-level internationals has gotten extremely competitive. Take a look at D3 and NAIA soccer rosters from around the country,  and you'll see just how pervasive international players are on the small college level of soccer these days. And that is only going to intensify, as the U.S. demographic cliff forces small schools to look more and more beyond our borders to find students who will pay the tuition to keep the schools operating.

And, whereas in the past it was pretty common to see internationals join a D3 or NAIA program when they were already well into their 20s, that's not the case anymore. I say this as someone who does play-by-play for one of the more high-profile D3 programs among those known for being international-heavy, North Park. The Vikings have six international freshmen that are either starting or getting heavy minutes off the bench -- five from Sweden and one from Norway -- and all six look like they just started shaving last week. I've noticed the same thing in the international freshmen along NPU's opponents.

Different divisions, different needs, different goals ... and different recruiting methodologies.

Even if D3 plays follow-the-leader and adopts 5-for-5 and/or the two-semester soccer season as well, the end result will still look much different in D3 than it does in D1.
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