Kentucky Wesleyan College Looking into Moving Sports to D-III
www.theseniorreports.com/naiadiv3.htm
economy based issue, video is included...
Really? They are just across the river from Evansville, so it may be an OK HCAC fit.
Given the school's small size and limited resources, D3 may be a better fit for Kentucky Wesleyan than D2 -- especially since, as smed notes, membership in the HCAC would appear to be a strong possibility.
However, I would be perturbed if a school moved into D3 that has more national championships in men's basketball than does North Park. ;)
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Given the school's small size and limited resources, D3 may be a better fit for Kentucky Wesleyan than D2 -- especially since, as smed notes, membership in the HCAC would appear to be a strong possibility.
However, I would be perturbed if a school moved into D3 that has more national championships in men's basketball than does North Park. ;)
Oh, get a grip, Greg - they have ZERO d3 titles! ;D
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Given the school's small size and limited resources, D3 may be a better fit for Kentucky Wesleyan than D2 -- especially since, as smed notes, membership in the HCAC would appear to be a strong possibility.
However, I would be perturbed if a school moved into D3 that has more national championships in men's basketball than does North Park. ;)
Oh, get a grip, Greg - they have ZERO d3 titles! ;D
Hence, the smiley, Chuck.
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Given the school's small size and limited resources, D3 may be a better fit for Kentucky Wesleyan than D2 -- especially since, as smed notes, membership in the HCAC would appear to be a strong possibility.
However, I would be perturbed if a school moved into D3 that has more national championships in men's basketball than does North Park. ;)
Oh, get a grip, Greg - they have ZERO d3 titles! ;D
Hence, the smiley, Chuck.
Hence the grin, Greg.
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2011, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 08:32:08 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 26, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2011, 07:40:25 PM
Given the school's small size and limited resources, D3 may be a better fit for Kentucky Wesleyan than D2 -- especially since, as smed notes, membership in the HCAC would appear to be a strong possibility.
However, I would be perturbed if a school moved into D3 that has more national championships in men's basketball than does North Park. ;)
Oh, get a grip, Greg - they have ZERO d3 titles! ;D
Hence, the smiley, Chuck.
Hence the grin, Greg.
We could do this all night. ;)
Noooooooooo! ::)
Quote from: smedindy on February 26, 2011, 06:33:55 PM
Really? They are just across the river from Evansville, so it may be an OK HCAC fit.
Or do we get a bidding war between the SLIAC, with Spalding as a travel partner, and the HCAC?
Are KWC and the HCAC compatible with the mission and vision stuff for ?
Quote from: Ralph Turner on February 26, 2011, 11:45:51 PM
Quote from: smedindy on February 26, 2011, 06:33:55 PM
Really? They are just across the river from Evansville, so it may be an OK HCAC fit.
Or do we get a bidding war between the SLIAC, with Spalding as a travel partner?
Are KWC and the HCAC compatible with the mission and vision stuff for ?
I have no direct contact with any of the schools involved in this, but I would guess -- given KWC's basketball tradition and the travel-distance issue being a key reason why that school is contemplating a move out of the GLVC and D2 into D3 -- that the HCAC would be KWC's first preference in a D3 league, with the SLIAC as a fallback in case the HCAC wouldn't want KenWes as a member. The HCAC's a pretty decent league, and it has some members that have solid basketball legacies. Alas, the SLIAC is the crumbs-under-the-table league of the region.
KWC seems to fit the general profile of an HCAC school, as far as I can tell. Granted, I haven't looked at it too closely.
KWC video (http://tristatehomepage.com/fulltext?nxd_id=249836)
Depending on the discount rate of your stated tuition versus the amount of academic and need based scholarships that you will give under D-III rules, KWC might almost be a revenue neutral.
Keeping fans' financial support for basketball would be critical is the funding issues.
$3Million is paltry among the successful D-II's. No wonder that KWC wants to reconsider. They probably find that they can be underfunded in D-II and very well funded in D-III.
The only HCAC sports that KWC does not offer are M&W T&F and Men's Tennis.
On at least one website where Great Lakes Valley Conference Basketball and other NCAA DII sports are discussed the shock and horror that some are feeling about a potential move by Kentucky Wesleyan to NCAA DIII is shall we say quite "interesting".
The posts by some on the board stating that moving to NCAA DIII might as well be the death knell for the entire school seems to me to be a very narrow minded view.
I didn't post the link to that site because I wasn't sure what the rules were about linking to other message boards.
I'd be OK with it -- thanks for checking.
Quote from: BUBeaverFan on March 08, 2011, 09:00:49 AM
On at least one website where Great Lakes Valley Conference Basketball and other NCAA DII sports are discussed the shock and horror that some are feeling about a potential move by Kentucky Wesleyan to NCAA DIII is shall we say quite "interesting".
The posts by some on the board stating that moving to NCAA DIII might as well be the death knell for the entire school seems to me to be a very narrow minded view.
I didn't post the link to that site because I wasn't sure what the rules were about linking to other message boards.
Sadly, this ignorant attitude (the one about people thinking D3 is going to somehow harm the school) is more the norm than the exception. You see it everytime a school contemplates moving to D3, e.g. recent moves by Birmingham-Southern and Centenary from D1 to D3, UNO's recent flirtation with D3.
The fact that D3 allows a school to focus on what should be its primary purpose, education, and that a college will actually end up drawing more students who want a place to play, thus bringing in more money overall, are usually overlooked in the sturm und drang associated with the termination of scholarship athletics.
Quote from: Pat Coleman on March 08, 2011, 09:56:27 AM
I'd be OK with it -- thanks for checking.
http://www.d2messageboard.com/showthread.php?t=40098
Thanks for the link!
The font settings on that message board make it very hard to read!
Thanks to Pat Coleman for the message board layout that we have here!
(I have been to that board occasionally over the last 3-5 years to follow up on D2 opponents that we play in the ASC. The board is not as well organized as these, IMHO.)
Amen to the D3Hoops layout superiority. Working at a NCAA DII institution, with a moderately successful athletic program, I do visit the DII board with some regularity but I post quite infrequently. As a graduate of Bluffton University I have a special fondness and appreciation for DIII athletics. Being in NW Ohio affords me the opportunity to watch some pretty decent DIII athletics regardless of which sports season and without having to travel very far. More and more former NAIA schools, in Ohio, are going the DII route so it will be interesting to see how that changes the sports landscape here in the Buckeye state.
Kentucky Wesleyan has a press conference scheduled for 3:00 pm (CDT) today 10/10/2011 to discuss the future of KWC athletics.
Quote from: BUBeaverFan on October 10, 2011, 03:15:25 PM
Kentucky Wesleyan has a press conference scheduled for 3:00 pm (CDT) today 10/10/2011 to discuss the future of KWC athletics.
KWC votes to join with Cedarville University, Urbana University, Central State University, Notre Dame College and Ursuline College in forming a new new NCAA DII conference.
Will they be joined by Walsh and Malone?
Quote from: ADL70 on October 10, 2011, 08:23:25 PM
Will they be joined by Walsh and Malone?
All indications point to Walsh and Malone joining the NCAA DII Great Lakes Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (GLIAC). I think an Ohio based GLIAC South and a Michigan based GLIAC North seems to be the direction the GLIAC might be going. If the new league gets up and running it might be possible that some eastern teams from the Great Lakes Valley Conference (GLVC) would consider this new league but those are pretty big ifs.