Looking at the SUNYAC as long as they do not beat each other up in conference games(which they usually do) they could be looking at 3 possibly 4 bids.
Cortland St-----------4-1-0 They lost to Rutgers Newark and their 4 out of conference wins have been cupcakes for the most part. They absolutely need to beat SLU today and then beat some top 4 SUNYAC teams in league play to get NCAA bid consideration.
Brockport St---------4-1-0 I liked this team last year and thought their 1st round 2014 NCAA loss to Bowdoin they showed some great athleticism and speed with a striker who played very well. This year they lost to Johns Hopkins but did beat Ohio Northern(who has some excellent wins to start the year). The rest of the wins have been cupcakes so like Cortland St they will need to beat a couple Top 4 conference teams and at least make the conference final to get NCAA bid consideration.
Geneseo St----------3-0-3 They have not lost yet and have had some impressive results against a couple top teams out of conference. They are getting to the point where some of those ties need to be turned into wins but a draw against SLU and a win of U of Rochester will come in handy in November. They also will need to take care of business in the SUNYAC and I believe would have a slight chance if they did not make the SUNYAC final but very slim.
Oneonta St----------3-2-1 The most disappointing team in D3 so far IMO. I was not impressed with what I saw of them at RPI and at Williams. They did not look like the 2014 NCAA Final 4 team. They have played the toughest out of conference schedule but have come away with a 0-1-2 record which will not help them. I do not think they will go undefeated in this conference again this year but if they only have 2 to 3 conference losses and MUST beat Montclair St and Lycoming to get a NCAA bid. Their SOS should be around .600 but they will need to get some wins against ranked teams.
Potsdam St---------6-1-0 The surprise team of D3 so far along with Eastern CT. Wins against Skidmore and SLU have been noted and will help come November but they need to finish Top 4 in conference to get a home seed and not slip up in conference games. A win against undefeated RPI tomorrow night will help their cause considerably.
New Paltz St--------4-0-0 Their 4 wins are against some BAD teams so this record is heavily inflated. They will struggle to finish Top 6 in this conference and will not be heard from again. Interestingly, they might have the oldest coach in D3.
Plattsburgh St------7-0-0 Another over inflated record with plenty of cupcake wins. However, unlike New Paltz they do have 1 win vs Hobart and still play SLU and Skidmore. They MUST beat SLU and Skidmore to have a chance but those early season wins over about 4-5 cupcakes will bring their SOS WAY down. They are going to have to have a stellar conference record to be a NCAA consideration for Pool C.
Buffalo St--------4-1-1 A great and somewhat surprising start for Buffalo St. However another over inflated record as their 4 wins are against very weak competition. They still play Clarkson and SLU but even with wins against those 2 schools in will not be enough to get NCAA consideration unless they go through conference play with 1 or 2 losses. Highly unlikely and therefore they would need to win the SUNYAC. Again highly unlikely.
Oswego St-------3-1-1 Their 3 wins are against weak competiton. Howver, I give them props for beating Nescac foe Hamilton. For Oswego St that is a good win but it will not look like anything bright and shiny to the NCAA committee. They got hammered by SLU and had an interesting 4-4 tie with Alfred(an up and coming Empire 8 side). Like New Paltz, they are going to struggle in conference and will fade away pretty quickly.
The first weekend of conference play will start to tell where these teams stand
The big games that weekend should be
9/25
Buff State @ Brockport
9/26
Oneonta @ Cortland which is a rematch of the SUNYAC finals last year
Buff State @ Geneseo
Potsdam @ Plattsburgh
Golden Fan,
I have only seen Oneonta St...Any info on the others? Strengths and weaknesses? Who are you top6 and why?
Personally,
I actually like the way SUNYAC does their conference tournament. Take 6 teams and reward the Top 2 by giving them bye's into the Semi-Finals. Excellent way to giving most teams a chance and making the regular season enticing
I've only been able to catch a hand full of games, mostly brockports, but what I could tell Brockport has returned their core I believe lost only 2 due to graduation and one or two others for reasons I do not know. They seem to be moving the ball a lot better this year and their only goal they have given up so far had come off a defensive mistake in the 18.
Got to see some of the cortland vs ithaca game. Cortland looked fairly good in the first half but second half seemed to drop off and let Ithaca back in the game. I dont know if they just took their foot off the gas that second half or what. I know cortland graduated their keeper and the new kid did not appear to be confident coming out for balls in the air, one which definitely led to one of ithaca's goals.
I caught a good hour of the potsdam vs SLU game and potsdam has improved greatly over the last 5 years. Even though they were playing more defensive this game when they did get the ball they looked to counter quick and actually passed it pretty well through the midfield.
For the top six I really cant give a confident ranking as I really havent seen the other teams play but based on what I have seen and based on scores thus far the top 3 are most likely (in no order) Cortland, oneonta, Brockport. The next three would have to be geneseo, potsdam, and plattsburgh followed closely by buff state.
I can never really tell with plattsburgh because they always play such a weak schedule in the beginning. After Wednesday I feel that we will be able to tell more about the top teams since they will have more opponents in common. SLU alone played 7/10 of the SUNYAC teams
Excellent..Thanks for the analysis. Between the SUNYAC and NJAC we never get much info on either league.
I am also shocked SLU is playing 7/10 SUNYAC teams.
Agreed, they might as well join the league
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4395/NCAADivisionIII/men/East/Poll2 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4395/NCAADivisionIII/men/East/Poll2)
6 Sunyac teams make the list with geneseo receiving votes. I don't think plattsburgh should be that high until we see them play SLU tomorrow
Are those results correct? They have SLU beating Cortland 9-0 if I am reading that right. Also, Did Stevens really draw Elmira? I would not think the Empire 8 would get started this early. I like the Plattsburgh ranking for now as they defeated Hobart and Skidmore. SLU's schedule is not much better than Plattsburgh's to be honest
Yeah, usually I am down on Plattsaburgh for a cupcake non-conference schedule year-in year-out, but wins over Hobart and Skidmore this year forces you to take them more seriously than usual.
Quote from: Mr.Right on September 22, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
Are those results correct? They have SLU beating Cortland 9-0 if I am reading that right. Also, Did Stevens really draw Elmira? I would not think the Empire 8 would get started this early. I like the Plattsburgh ranking for now as they defeated Hobart and Skidmore. SLU's schedule is not much better than Plattsburgh's to be honest
Cortland and SLU tied 0-0, some one must have accidentally hit that 9 when typing it in
Quote from: Mr.Right on September 22, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
Are those results correct? They have SLU beating Cortland 9-0 if I am reading that right. Also, Did Stevens really draw Elmira? I would not think the Empire 8 would get started this early. I like the Plattsburgh ranking for now as they defeated Hobart and Skidmore. SLU's schedule is not much better than Plattsburgh's to be honest
Empire 8 is underway. Alfred topped St. John Fisher 4-0 on Saturday at Growney.
Tonight, the Saxons defeated Mid Atlantic Region #8 ranked King's College, 2-0 in Scranton.
Alfred now 6-1-1, while the Monarchs drop to 6-2.
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 23, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on September 22, 2015, 12:12:42 PM
Are those results correct? They have SLU beating Cortland 9-0 if I am reading that right. Also, Did Stevens really draw Elmira? I would not think the Empire 8 would get started this early. I like the Plattsburgh ranking for now as they defeated Hobart and Skidmore. SLU's schedule is not much better than Plattsburgh's to be honest
Empire 8 is underway. Alfred topped St. John Fisher 4-0 on Saturday at Growney.
Tonight, the Saxons defeated Mid Atlantic Region #8 ranked King's College, 2-0 in Scranton.
Alfred now 6-1-1, while the Monarchs drop to 6-2.
Yes I know a kid on that team and he say's the team is all buying into former Hopkins coach philosophy and enjoy playing for him
Any one watch the Plattsburgh vs SLU game? I see Plattsburgh got out shot 16-5 and had no shots on goal
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 24, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
Any one watch the Plattsburgh vs SLU game? I see Plattsburgh got out shot 16-5 and had no shots on goal
I watched it. The action was very back and forth. Plattsburgh is good with some real talent. SLU just a bit better with a little more quality.
Some predictions:
9/25
Brockport 2 - Buff State 0
Cortland 3 - New paltz 0
Oneonta 4 - Oswego 0
Geneseo 3 - Fredonia 0
9/26
Oneonta 2 - Cortland 2
Buff State 1 - Geneseo 2
Potsdam 2 - Plattsburgh 1
New Paltz 1 - Oswego 0
Brockport 4 - Fredonia 0
Golden Fan who are your top 6 to make the SUNYAC tournament?
In no particular order my hunch is:
Oneonta, Cortland, Plattsburgh, Geneseo, Brockport and Potsdam.
Buff State and Oswego have a shot
New Paltz and Fredonia no chance
Fredonia definitely doesn't have a shot.
First 4 (no order): Oneonta, Plattsburgh, Brockport, Cortland
Last two would be Geneseo followed by potsdam with Buff state having a shot to sneak in.
New paltz then oswego have a very outside chance at making it.
It is always tough to play up in windy oswego so I wouldn't be surprised if there are any weird results up there
Yes Oswego is right on Lake Ontario...High winds for sure
It was always terrible to play up there. One half you'd be able to clear a ball 80 yards and the next you wouldn't be able to kick it 30
Well that's a surprise, Cortland falls to New Paltz 2-1
WOW...I cannot believe that..I saw New Paltz once this year and was not terribly impressed not to mention their weak non-conference schedule but that why you play the games...What was the Shots and SOG?
19(6) - 13(7) in favor of cortland
Oneonta won 3-1 and geneseo won 3-0
Brockport and Buff state going into ot tied at 2, buff state down to 10 men
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 25, 2015, 05:04:35 PM
Brockport and Buff state going into ot tied at 2, buff state down to 10 men
Buffalo playing a man down due to a red card.
New East rankings:
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4475 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4475)
How do you get these before they've been posted on the NSCAA site? Or an I missing something? And did they really rank Tufts #19??? Can you post the national list?
National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474) will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476) will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477) Mid-Atlantic
and so on.
When ever the national poll is updated it will be here
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482)
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 29, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474) will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476) will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477) Mid-Atlantic
and so on.
When ever the national poll is updated it will be here
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482)
This is all fine and good but the record for Alfred University is all screwed up because someone doesn't know the difference between Alfred University and Alfred State College. For instance, Buffalo State is listed as having beaten Alfred University 2-0. AU never played Buffalo State in soccer. It was Alfred State. Further, AU is listed as having LOST to Elmira 3-0 on Sept. 22 then TYING Elmira on Sept. 26. It was Alfred State that lost to Elmira on Sept. 22.....AU and Elmira battled to a 3-3 tie on Sept. 26.
AU's current record is 6-1-2 with a 2-0 win AT Middle Atlantic ranked King's College last week. AU had a 4-4 tie with Oswego State and a 3-3 tie with Elmira. The Saxons' lone loss of the season was its opener against Geneva College, 3-2. Here's a link to their results: http://www.gosaxons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Not complaining about rankings here, in due time, AU will appear in the rankings. But if the rankings are based on misinformation, any consideration of Alfred will certainly be skewed when AU is credited with losses of the Alfred State men's soccer team across the street.
PepBand, if you browse through different team schedules on the NSCAA site, you'll find some teams have a third or less of their games listed. Not sure if the NSCAA is maintaining their own database of schedules or is using/linking into to some other site. But the bottom line is that those incomplete schedules (and apparently incorrect at times) are not what the voting coaches are looking at and using which is partially evidences by noting the games listed for each team in the regional and national rankings. I wouldn't worry about this.
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 29, 2015, 10:50:47 PM
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 29, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
National list isn't up yet. In the URL you just have to change the numbers at the end for example http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4474) will take you to the central poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4476) will take you to the great lakes
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4477) Mid-Atlantic
and so on.
When ever the national poll is updated it will be here
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4482)
This is all fine and good but the record for Alfred University is all screwed up because someone doesn't know the difference between Alfred University and Alfred State College. For instance, Buffalo State is listed as having beaten Alfred University 2-0. AU never played Buffalo State in soccer. It was Alfred State. Further, AU is listed as having LOST to Elmira 3-0 on Sept. 22 then TYING Elmira on Sept. 26. It was Alfred State that lost to Elmira on Sept. 22.....AU and Elmira battled to a 3-3 tie on Sept. 26.
AU's current record is 6-1-2 with a 2-0 win AT Middle Atlantic ranked King's College last week. AU had a 4-4 tie with Oswego State and a 3-3 tie with Elmira. The Saxons' lone loss of the season was its opener against Geneva College, 3-2. Here's a link to their results: http://www.gosaxons.com/schedule.aspx?path=msoc
Not complaining about rankings here, in due time, AU will appear in the rankings. But if the rankings are based on misinformation, any consideration of Alfred will certainly be skewed when AU is credited with losses of the Alfred State men's soccer team across the street.
Alfred wouldn't be ranked. From the looks of their schedule they haven't played anybody worth noting. Maybe Geneva, which is their loss so that doesn't help their case. Geneva is RV regionally but not in the top 10 of a tough Great Lakes region. I wouldn't consider Kings a "good win." It's nice that it was on the road and that they got a shut out but other than that it's just a win against an average team. Elmira is obviously better than last year, but a 3-3 tie doesn't help their cause.
Quote from: Flying Weasel on September 30, 2015, 09:06:12 AM
PepBand, if you browse through different team schedules on the NSCAA site, you'll find some teams have a third or less of their games listed. Not sure if the NSCAA is maintaining their own database of schedules or is using/linking into to some other site. But the bottom line is that those incomplete schedules (and apparently incorrect at times) are not what the voting coaches are looking at and using which is partially evidences by noting the games listed for each team in the regional and national rankings. I wouldn't worry about this.
Thanks for your response. No worries here. Just inquiring. Curious where voting coaches get their information if not from the data on the NSCAA website? For example, Buffalo State's record of 6-2-2 in the rankings is correct and lines up with the data on the NSCAA website EXCEPT the NSCAA website gives Buffalo State a 2-0 win over Alfred UNIVERSITY; the Buffalo State website is correct and says Alfred STATE.
And, because of the mix-up of Alfred State and Alfred University, AU's record on the NSCAA website is 6-3-2 rather than 6-1-2 because the Saxons are credited with two of Alfred State's losses.
Yeah not sure how that works. I wonder who does the reporting on it and when it exactly gets lost in translation. If I was the AU coach I would be calling every day getting that fixed! That shouldn't happen at this level.
Quote from: Golden_Fan on September 29, 2015, 10:43:29 AM
New East rankings:
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4475 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4475)
Bears losses are @RPI #1 and in Potsdam to Hobart #4.
They beat #2 SLU at SLU, and tied #3 Plattsburgh at Plattsburgh, but are ranked behind both.
Guess no one believes they are legit yet.
BTW, Bears home games this year on on their older grass field due to field reconstruction.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 30, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
Alfred wouldn't be ranked. From the looks of their schedule they haven't played anybody worth noting. Maybe Geneva, which is their loss so that doesn't help their case. Geneva is RV regionally but not in the top 10 of a tough Great Lakes region. I wouldn't consider Kings a "good win." It's nice that it was on the road and that they got a shut out but other than that it's just a win against an average team. Elmira is obviously better than last year, but a 3-3 tie doesn't help their cause.
Kings was ranked 8th in the Mid-Atlantic Region with a 6-1-0 record when Alfred beat them.
As for the tie with Elmira, the Soaring Eagles also tied Stevens, FWIW.
Quote from: AUPepBand on September 30, 2015, 04:45:05 PM
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on September 30, 2015, 10:01:54 AM
Alfred wouldn't be ranked. From the looks of their schedule they haven't played anybody worth noting. Maybe Geneva, which is their loss so that doesn't help their case. Geneva is RV regionally but not in the top 10 of a tough Great Lakes region. I wouldn't consider Kings a "good win." It's nice that it was on the road and that they got a shut out but other than that it's just a win against an average team. Elmira is obviously better than last year, but a 3-3 tie doesn't help their cause.
Kings was ranked 8th in the Mid-Atlantic Region with a 6-1-0 record when Alfred beat them.
As for the tie with Elmira, the Soaring Eagles also tied Stevens, FWIW.
Look at Kings schedule. How they were ranked is mind-boggling. If you look at past posts with predictions for regional rankings, Kings wasn't in anybody's top 10 let alone sitting at #8. I would expect Alfred to beat Kings, not the other way around. If I expected Kings to win then that would be a good win for AU...but Kings isn't good and doesn't play anyone out of conference or in conference. Take a look at their schedule compared to other teams in the region or even their conference.
Elmira was 1-14-2 last year, FWIW
A big weekend for SUNYAC matchups starting tomorrow!
Friday we have both (1) Oneonta vs (6) Brockport and (T-7) Plattsburgh vs (10) Cortland.
Brockport vs. Oneonta is a match of currently the top two defenses with Brockport only allowing 3 goals in 8 games and Oneonta 6 in 9. This is a big game for both teams as Oneonta will want to keep their momentum up and Brockport is looking for this first conference win to get into the title race.
Plattsburgh vs. Cortland features the current top two offenses with Plattsburgh scoring 29 in 10 games and Cortland 24 in 8. Cortland is looking to bounce back from a rough 2 loss opening weekend and Plattsburgh looks to get started after an opening tie with Potsdam.
Other match ups for Friday are:
(T-3) Geneseo vs (T-3)New Paltz
(T-3) Oswego vs (T-7) Potsdam
Sunday top matchups feature:
(1) Oneonta vs (T-3) Geneseo
(10) Cortland vs (T-7) Potsdam
Geneseo and Potsdam are both looking for good results if they want to be considered top teams in the SUNYAC again
and
(6) Brockport vs (T-3)New Paltz
(T-7) Plattsburgh vs (T-3) Oswego
(9) Fredonia vs (2) Buff State
Cortland St I believe sit a 5-3-1 and they really need to start winning games to get into the SUNYAC tournament.
Wow...New Paltz another conference win over Geneseo St. I thought New Platz had a great record because of playing weak non-conference teams but I thought they would be unheard from when conference play started. I was wrong. They have 2 excellent wins in Conference..has anyone seen this team play? I am guessing they sit deep and counter when they can. However, they are scoring goals
Cortland St and Brockport St are really under performing in SUNYAC play and are at risk of missing the SUNYAC tournament if they do not get their acts together
Yes, the SUNYAC standings are very interesting at present. Even Plattsburgh St. is outside the playoff spots with draws in each of their first two conference games. Looking at non-conference performances and current (early) conference record, the only team to rule out of the playoff hunt would be Fredonia St. And while not all of the other nine teams would be considered realistic/legitimate candidates for the #1 seed, at the moment it's hard to really rule much else out in terms of who makes the cut and where they finish. Exciting.
Between the Liberty League, SUNYAC and Empire 8(with Stevens struggling) the East regional rankings in a few weeks will be very interesting.
I was going to watch New Paltz play today but for some reason they do not have a live stream of the game
oneonta up 1-0 19 seconds in.... could be a long game for geneseo
Geneseo's win v SLU is doing nothing for them now. They are going to have to win the SUNYAC tournament at this point. Do they have some injuries? They are in a rut for some reason
Geneseo goes down 2-0 it appears that their back line can not handle high pressure
Make that 3 looks to be game over before half in Oneonta. Plattsburgh up 1-0 vs oswego, Cortland up 1-0 over potsdam, and brockport tied at 0 with new paltz
East Poll for 10/6 http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4554 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4554)
Plattsburgh moves up to number 2 while SLU drops to 3
Oneonta moves to 4
Potsdam and Brockport drop out
Buff State stays at 10
The EAST is an absolute mess. IMO Skidmore should be at least #3 and SLU and RPI should have dropped. How do you stay at #1 by going 0-1-1
IMO Oneonta is the best team in this region. RPI and St. Lawrence are T2. The I would put Platt 4, SIT 5, Skid 6, UR 7, Vassar 8, Hobart 9, and Buff. State 10. IMO.
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 06, 2015, 08:45:52 AM
East Poll for 10/6 http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4554 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4554)
Plattsburgh moves up to number 2 while SLU drops to 3
Oneonta moves to 4
Potsdam and Brockport drop out
Buff State stays at 10
Thanks for the link to the East Region rankings.
So according to the NSCAA website, Alfred University picked up another loss and now sports an 8-4-2 record. Fact is, the Saxons are 8-1-2 and haven't lost a soccer game since their opener on Sept. 1.
Stevens also is 8-1-2 on the season but the two ties are in E8 play. The two teams meet at Yunevich Stadium in Saxonville at 3 p.m. Saturday, Oct. 10.
On Saxon Warriors!
Another big SUNYAC weekend.
Today we have Cortland @ Buff State where Cortland is looking to get into a playoff spot and buff state is trying to keep their first round bye.
Potsdam @ Oneonta at 1-1-1 potsdam would like to get a result to stay relevant in the race and oneonta hopes to keep their momentum up.
Other games on today:
Oswego @ Fredonia
Plattsburgh @ New Paltz
Saturday includes the game of the weekend
Plattsburgh @ Oneonta Currently these are the two teams that playing the best in the SUNYAC right now. Neither team will want to lose this one as this could be the game to decide who takes the regular season crown.
Brockport @ Geneseo I think brockport will need to win out and make it to at least the SUNYAC final to even have a shot at an at large bid, even then it will be a slim chance. They will have their hands full with a geneseo side that is looking to bounce back after a rough SUNYAC start.
Cortland @ Fredonia
Potsdam @ New Paltz
Oswego @ Buff State
Yes BIG weekend in the SUNYAC that should separate the contenders and pretenders I THINK...However, my guess is you will have a couple surprise results, a couple draws and still no separation.
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 09, 2015, 01:34:04 PM
Yes BIG weekend in the SUNYAC that should separate the contenders and pretenders I THINK...However, my guess is you will have a couple surprise results, a couple draws and still no separation.
Hope you're right, Mr. Right! Keeps it interesting!
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 09, 2015, 01:34:04 PM
Yes BIG weekend in the SUNYAC that should separate the contenders and pretenders I THINK...However, my guess is you will have a couple surprise results, a couple draws and still no separation.
Every week there is something. Last year potsdamn took oneonta to OT
I still am flabbergasted at New Paltz...This was A BAD team last year. New Paltz is not the type of school to bring in to many impactful frosh. Has anyone seen this side? Did they not graduate a lot? Did they bring in a nice class? Or is it just dumb luck?
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 09, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
I still am flabbergasted at New Paltz...This was A BAD team last year. New Paltz is not the type of school to bring in to many impactful frosh. Has anyone seen this side? Did they not graduate a lot? Did they bring in a nice class? Or is it just dumb luck?
I'm just as confused, perhaps it is a combination of luck and them just showing up for games. The one game I was going to watch they did not have video for
A little half time update
Cortland 1 @ Buff State 0
Potsdam 0 @ Oneonta 1 (Potsdam with 0 shots
Oswego 0 @ Fredonia 2 (Fredonia scored 2 goals within 3 minutes)
Plattsburgh 2 @ New Paltz 1 (After giving up two quick goals new paltz claws one back)
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 09, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
I still am flabbergasted at New Paltz...This was A BAD team last year. New Paltz is not the type of school to bring in to many impactful frosh. Has anyone seen this side? Did they not graduate a lot? Did they bring in a nice class? Or is it just dumb luck?
I've seen them play once so far this season. They didn't appear to have any standout players, but seemed reasonably solid up and down the roster. They don't score a lot of goals (no particularly dangerous forwards), but they play hard and defend well, making it difficult for opponents to find a rhythm. At least that's what happened in the game I saw.
2-0 Oneonta St. w/15 min to play. Potsdam still does not have a shot in the game. Being out shot 16-0 and 7-0 for SOG.
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 09, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 09, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
I still am flabbergasted at New Paltz...This was A BAD team last year. New Paltz is not the type of school to bring in to many impactful frosh. Has anyone seen this side? Did they not graduate a lot? Did they bring in a nice class? Or is it just dumb luck?
I'm just as confused, perhaps it is a combination of luck and them just showing up for games. The one game I was going to watch they did not have video for
I don't know all the teams in SUNYAC well, but Oneonta, Plattsburgh, and Potsdam have been ones to watch for anyone following d3 soccer thus far this season. New Paltz never made the radar for me this year...shocked that they were 8-4 so quietly. Not the toughest schedule thus far, but still a decent record for this conf. If Plattsburgh today, currently up 5-1 is a foreshadowing of the rest of their season, it's gonna be a long one for them...
Oneonta just went up 3-0 on Potsdam with less than 10' left in regulation as I'm writing this. Ouch.
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 09, 2015, 04:32:42 PM
2-0 Oneonta St. w/15 min to play. Potsdam still does not have a shot in the game. Being out shot 16-0 and 7-0 for SOG.
Potsdamn finally gets their first shot in the 87 minute
Fredonia picks up a nice home W, beating favored Oswego 4-0, for their second win of season and current 2-8-2 for record.
Oneonta turning it on at the right time as we get into the second half of the season. IMO the best team in the East Region at the moment. 6 straight wins and no signs of stopping. SUNYAC is still looking for the next best team, but who? Hopefully the weekend distinguishes the contenders and the pretenders.
Great record at home average record on the road. We will see how they do on their next road trip stretch. They have an awkward schedule.
They go: (A=Away, H=Home)
1A
2H
6A
6H
3A
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Big result for Plattsburgh, Oneonta fails to put the game away, guess it's a two horse race. Can a Cortland or Brockport get the results they need to pull themselves into the conversation?
I do not see Oneonta slipping up again so they will take the number one seed. The only way I see brockport getting second is winning out but their schedule includes plattsburgh, a tough cortland side, and a hit or miss potsdam side
New east rankings. Plattsburgh takes over the top spot, Oneonta drops to 5, Cortland and Brockport make the top 10 again
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4636 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4636)
Rank School Prev. W-L-T
1 Plattsburgh State University 2 12-1-2
2 Stevens Institute Of Technology 5 7-1-2
3 Skidmore College 6 8-2-0
4 Hobart College 7 8-2-2
5 SUNY Oneonta 4 9-3-1
6 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute 1 8-2-3
7 St. Lawrence University 3 8-3-2
8 SUNY Cortland NR 8-3-2
9 College of Brockport NR 8-2-2
10 Union College NR 7-1-3
Union had a big week. Glad to see them make the top 10!
Fredonia St. up 2-1 on Platts. St. 35 minutes in. Goal fest!!!
Quote from: Mid-Atlantic Fan on October 16, 2015, 03:42:33 PM
Fredonia St. up 2-1 on Platts. St. 35 minutes in. Goal fest!!!
Plattsburgh cannot afford 2-3 more losses IMO
They can but not to teams like Fredonia St!!! :o
And you are right not 3...probably 2...but that doesn't include today because this is a bad loss if it stays this way. 2-1 25 minutes to go.
2-2 15 minutes to go.
Who won Buff St vs Platts game?
Quote from: NCAC New England on October 17, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Who won Buff St vs Platts game?
LOL, I'll answer my own question. Plattsburgh did. Anyone have thoughts on whether SUNYAC can get 3 bids again? Oneonta and Plattsburgh are looking like locks, and Brockport looks to be ahead of schedule in terms of what got them in last year.
Looks like I missed a good weekend of games (Vegas got the best of me). If brockport beats plattsburgh this weekend they could possibly have the 3rd bid
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 19, 2015, 12:08:37 PM
Looks like I missed a good weekend of games (Vegas got the best of me). If brockport beats plattsburgh this weekend they could possibly have the 3rd bid
This is correct. Brockport MUST beat Plattsburgh to get on the bubble and must go clean.
Even then their weaker non-conference schedule could prove the difference
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 19, 2015, 12:58:33 PM
Even then their weaker non-conference schedule could prove the difference
Brockport does not have a win vs any Ranked team this year...Losses include Johns Hopkins and Oneonta St....They will need to beat Plattsburgh and even then I do not think they have the resume to get in.
New East Poll
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4716 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4716)
Ouch Brockport not making it. They must walk away with 2 wins this weekend
East In-Division Record Overall Record In Div SOS
1. Plattsburgh St. 12-1-3 12-1-3 .583
2. Stevens Institute of Technology 11-1-2 11-1-2 .553
3. SUNY Oneonta 11-3-1 11-3-1 .605
4. SUNY Cortland 9-4-2 9-4-2 .592
5. Hobart 10-2-2 10-2-2 .541
6. St. Lawrence 10-3-2 10-3-2 .569
7. Rensselaer 9-3-3 9-3-3 .561
Stevens being 2nd is the funniest thing since I saw Cortland St. at 4th. This region is a mess thanks to the committee.
I'd go...Platts, Oneonta, St. Law, Stevens, Hobart, RPI, Cortland if I have to use those teams.
The last weekend of SUNYAC play before playoffs. Today we have
Plattsburgh @ Geneseo
Oneonta @ Fredonia
Potsdam @ Brockport
New Paltz @ Buff State
and tomorrow
Plattsburgh @ Brockport (Game of the weekend)
Potsdam @ Geneseo
Cortland @ Oswego
New Paltz @ Fredonia
Oneonta @ Buff State
Too many possible scenarios to go over so here are the current standings so you can figure them out:
School CPts Conf Overall
Oneonta 18 6-1 11-3-1
Plattsburgh 15 4-0-3 12-1-3
Brockport 14 4-1-2 10-2-2
Cortland 13 4-3-1 9-4-2
Potsdam 10 3-3-1 9-5-1
Buffalo State 10 3-3-1 9-5-2
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New Paltz 9 3-4 10-6-1
Geneseo 6 2-5 7-6-3
Fredonia 5 1-4-2 2-10-3
Oswego 3 1-7 4-9-1
Buff State could play themselves out by not beating New Paltz due to Oneonta on their mind. Haven't looked that convincing in the last few matches. Brockport could also do the same with a "who knows what you're going to get" Potsdam team and Plattsburgh tomorrow.
IMO the SUNYAC has 3-4 teams that are "who are you going to get on any given day"...Very unpredictable but I'll take a stab..
Friday:
Geneseo v Plattsburgh----1-0 in my upset special.
Fredonia v Oneonta--------0-3 Fredonia I believe is mathematically eliminated from the Top 6 so the max effort will not be there.
Brockport V Potsdam------2-0 Potsdam has been trending down after a fantastic start and Brockport MUST win this game. I will say that if Potsdam "shows" up with max intensity and focus they could win this game 2-0.
Buff State v New Paltz-----1-1 I still cannot believe New Paltz is still in the play-off picture...This week-end should end all that as Buff State should at the worst draw New Paltz but I think should win.
Saturday:
Brockport v Plattsburgh-----1-0 This game will be a physical intense battle...I say there will be more cards than SOG..If Plattsburgh drops 2 games this weekend their Pool C chance will be severely diminished..Brockport meanwhile is building a solid resume and I believe will sweep the week-end...
Geneseo v Potsdam--------1-2 Geneseo rests on their laurels against Potsdam and Potsdam takes full advantage..After this week-end Potsdam will be beat up but will have some great results.
Oswego v Cortland----------0-0 Oswego is the weakest team in the SUNYAC and Cortland is the most overrated at 9-4-2 and somehow getting regionally ranked. Oswego has nothing to play for which can either be dangerous for their opponents or a cakewalk..I am guessing the former.
Fredonia v New Paltz-------1-0 I have seen Fredonia 2 times and while I was unimpressed they are not as bad as their record suggests. I think Fredonia knocks New Paltz out of thst #6 seed.
Buff State v Oneonta-------0-0 Buff State needs points anyway they can get them. If they play 10 deep they could frustrate Oneonta.
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
IMO the SUNYAC has 3-4 teams that are "who are you going to get on any given day"...Very unpredictable but I'll take a stab..
Friday:
Geneseo v Plattsburgh----1-0 in my upset special.
Fredonia v Oneonta--------0-3 Fredonia I believe is mathematically eliminated from the Top 6 so the max effort will not be there.
Brockport V Potsdam------2-0 Potsdam has been trending down after a fantastic start and Brockport MUST win this game. I will say that if Potsdam "shows" up with max intensity and focus they could win this game 2-0.
Buff State v New Paltz-----1-1 I still cannot believe New Paltz is still in the play-off picture...This week-end should end all that as Buff State should at the worst draw New Paltz but I think should win.
Saturday:
Brockport v Plattsburgh-----1-0 This game will be a physical intense battle...I say there will be more cards than SOG..If Plattsburgh drops 2 games this weekend their Pool C chance will be severely diminished..Brockport meanwhile is building a solid resume and I believe will sweep the week-end...
Geneseo v Potsdam--------1-2 Geneseo rests on their laurels against Potsdam and Potsdam takes full advantage..After this week-end Potsdam will be beat up but will have some great results.
Oswego v Cortland----------0-0 Oswego is the weakest team in the SUNYAC and Cortland is the most overrated at 9-4-2 and somehow getting regionally ranked. Oswego has nothing to play for which can either be dangerous for their opponents or a cakewalk..I am guessing the former.
Fredonia v New Paltz-------1-0 I have seen Fredonia 2 times and while I was unimpressed they are not as bad as their record suggests. I think Fredonia knocks New Paltz out of thst #6 seed.
Buff State v Oneonta-------0-0 Buff State needs points anyway they can get them. If they play 10 deep they could frustrate Oneonta.
Can't see Platts dropping both games this weekend. Maybe one but I doubt they lose both. Just my thoughts though. I like the Fredonia pick over New Paltz.
Thank you..now that is better conversation...What teams do you follow or what teams have seen this year and what are your thoughts?
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:29:06 PM
Thank you..now that is better conversation...What teams do you follow or what teams have seen this year and what are your thoughts?
I am a big Skidmore fan...I am kidding that's the last time I pull your leg I promise! We got off on the wrong foot so let that fade and start fresh. I like to add some spice and sarcasm to these kinds of forums because sometimes people need to sit back and and take a deep breath.
I usually don't cheer for one individual team every year. I like to look for a team that floats under the radar and can surprise people. This year I am a Case fan for sure. The potential of that group is endless and they could make a run if they can click at the right time. Sitting at 11-2-1 and 3-1 in a tough conference has me excited to see them still get under appreciated each week. I anticipate them finishing 14-3-1 losing to Chicago in their last 4 matches. The Brandeis game could have gone either way and I think a tie would have been a fair result for both teams but Brandeis prevailed in that one. If Case wins that game I think people see them in a whole new light. The 2 losses are to top quality teams, the other being Thomas More College early in the year, and a tie with Oberlin well it happens. Very disappointed that the Kenyon game wasn't made up. Think Kenyon has a better squad at the moment and might have won the regular season game but a showdown in NCAA's if that's even possible would favor Case. As for the remaining games, Chicago on the road will be tough as well as 3/4 remaining are road games. I think they win the other 2 and sneak by CMU at home to finish up with an at large berth or maybe even a conference championship. Time will tell. Who do you tend to pull for?
I watched the debacle of a game between Case and Brandeis...That was the game where the ref lost absolute control...I only saw Case in that game but my opinions are they are solid in the back and solid in net but lack some creativity in midfield. #2 Chris Cvecko is one fast player up front or on the flank but I think if you STICK him hard he would fade away...He can defintly beat people 1v1 and is a GOOD player but I think he can be neutralized by a defender(s) that can match his speed / skill and tenacity...Big and fast backs should be able to deal with him . Case is a solid squad but I do not think they will reach the Sweet 16 if they happen to make the NCAA's.
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
IMO the SUNYAC has 3-4 teams that are "who are you going to get on any given day"...Very unpredictable but I'll take a stab..
Friday:
Geneseo v Plattsburgh----1-0 in my upset special.
Fredonia v Oneonta--------0-3 Fredonia I believe is mathematically eliminated from the Top 6 so the max effort will not be there.
Brockport V Potsdam------2-0 Potsdam has been trending down after a fantastic start and Brockport MUST win this game. I will say that if Potsdam "shows" up with max intensity and focus they could win this game 2-0.
Buff State v New Paltz-----1-1 I still cannot believe New Paltz is still in the play-off picture...This week-end should end all that as Buff State should at the worst draw New Paltz but I think should win.
Saturday:
Brockport v Plattsburgh-----1-0 This game will be a physical intense battle...I say there will be more cards than SOG..If Plattsburgh drops 2 games this weekend their Pool C chance will be severely diminished..Brockport meanwhile is building a solid resume and I believe will sweep the week-end...
Geneseo v Potsdam--------1-2 Geneseo rests on their laurels against Potsdam and Potsdam takes full advantage..After this week-end Potsdam will be beat up but will have some great results.
Oswego v Cortland----------0-0 Oswego is the weakest team in the SUNYAC and Cortland is the most overrated at 9-4-2 and somehow getting regionally ranked. Oswego has nothing to play for which can either be dangerous for their opponents or a cakewalk..I am guessing the former.
Fredonia v New Paltz-------1-0 I have seen Fredonia 2 times and while I was unimpressed they are not as bad as their record suggests. I think Fredonia knocks New Paltz out of thst #6 seed.
Buff State v Oneonta-------0-0 Buff State needs points anyway they can get them. If they play 10 deep they could frustrate Oneonta.
It is oswego's senior day according to their website that could give them something to play for.
I still cant figure out new paltz, they seem to get results and idk how.
Half time updates
Plattsburgh 0 - 1 Geneseo (Geneseo out shooting them 14-1 with 11 shots on goal :o ???)
Oneonta 1 - 0 Fredonia
Potsdam 1 - 0 Brockport (Brockport playing very sloppy and needs to clean it up)
New Paltz 0 - 1 Buff State
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 23, 2015, 03:53:20 PM
Half time updates
Plattsburgh 0 - 1 Geneseo (Geneseo out shooting them 14-1 with 11 shots on goal :o ???)
Oneonta 1 - 0 Fredonia
Potsdam 1 - 0 Brockport (Brockport playing very sloppy and needs to clean it up)
New Paltz 0 - 1 Buff State
WOW!!!
Looks like my upset special might turn out to be true..Only Halftime but stillll....Oh and BTW if Plattsburgh drops 2 games this week-end they are going to be squarely on that Bubble..
So Geneseo is also ONE OF THOSE DAMN SCHOOLS that give us a free minute and a half of HD video and then just pulls the plug...I mean c'mon what is the point. I can see some of these state school doing it for $$$ reasons but Vassar was another one that did it and do not tell me they are hurting for $$$$
yup.... brockports feed is good just no sound
about to head into ot
I cannot believe this Geneseo side is not in the top 6....They look very good on their home turf. Plattsburgh looks gassed..gENESEO HAS HAD SOME GREAT RESULTS AGAINST THE liberty lEAGUE TEAMS AND u OF Rochester BUT THEY HAVE WAY TOO MANY bad LOSSES...
Poor Brockport...They outshoot and looked to be the much better side v Potsdam but with about 1 minute left they give up a set piece that was sent in and then flicked back to the kicker who then mad a beautiful cross right across the box that Brockport did not deal with and a Potsdam player finished it....At 10-3-2 Brockport just lost a chance to grab a bye in the 1st round. Also, Potsdam which got outplayed might have qualified with that win..Geneseo's win now almost look to little to late depending on what Buff State did.
4 SUNYAC teams that are eliminated are Fredonia, Geneseo, Oswego and New Paltz.....The one game of importance tomorrow is Brockport St v Plattsburgh St...I think if Brockport wins they could snag the #2 seed not sure though...Also, I fPlattsburgh losses twice (which I correctly predicted today and we will see tomorrow) there #1 Regional Ranking might drop down to #5-#7 if not completely OUT....To me Brockport St and Oneonta St look like the 2 best teams in SUNYAC from what I have seen this year..Geneseo looked good today but again to many slip-ups against weaker competition...Plattsburgh I have only seen once but I am not impressed...I will be watching as much as I can of tomorrow's monster clash between Brockport and Plattsburgh
Brockport must win to get that #2 seed and first round bye. Plattsburgh could possibly drop down to the 6 seed if brockport, potsdam, buff state, and cortland ALL WIN tomorrow...wouldn't that be something
Not only that if Plattsburgh loses and drops to the #6 SUNYAC seed they will surely drop to the #5 or #6 seed in the East Regional rankings and then they would have lots of work left to do..Personally, I think Oneonta and Brockport are the 2 best SUNYAC teams and I was pleasantly surprised by Geneseo St yesterday. They are def a top 6 side in SUNYAC but they lost to many easy games.
Agreed, Geneseo had a few bad games and it really cost them. I'm thinking brockport will be able to pull together a complete game today after the tough loss yesterday. Lets see if plattsburgh will actually play today after being dominated by geneseo
I have not been able to watch the game today but Plattsburgh up on Brockport 2-0 at the Half...stats indicate a fairly even game..
it has been. brockport just getting caught with lazy defending. Pulled 1 back 30 seconds into the second half and have stepped up the pressure
Tied it up 2-2.
Other scores
Oneonta 1 - Buff state 0
Cortland 1 - Oswego 0
new paltz 4 - fredonia 3 in a goal fest
Potsdam 0 - Geneseo 0
Make that 3-2 Brockport and 2-0 Cortland
WOW....good for Brockport, they play HARD and have a good work rate...Plattsburgh will be killing themselves if they blow that game...I am betting Plattsburgh thought they had the game in the bag, now there SUNYAC Bye and At-Large chances are flushing away down the toilet. I had a hunch they would lose 2 games this week-end but Shooter "thought I was nuts"
They do not seem to be letting up either. A majority of this second half has been played in plattsburgh's end
The bracket set. First on Saturday Oct 31 we have #6 Buff State @ #3 Cortland with the winner traveling to #2 Brockport which takes place Wednesday November 4th. On the other side there is #5 Potsdam @ #4 Plattsburgh the winner traveling to #1 Oneonta.
The finals will take place Saturday November 7 at the high seed.
Predictions:
Cortland 3 - Buff State 1 - I think Buff state could grab one early but won't have enough to contain cortland
Potsdam 1 - Plattsburgh 1 - I feel this game could end up on PKs with Potsdam coming out on top. It has been a long time since Potsdam has done anything in the SUNYAC and they will fight for everything. Either this game will be really close or Plattsburgh just takes over and Potsdam doesnt have a chance.
That sets up Cortland @ Brockport and Potsdam @ Oneonta.
Brockport 2 - Cortland 1 - This will be a close contest. Brockport seems to start slow and really take it up a notch in the second half. From watching their last game with cortland it appeared that they were unlucky so score more.
Oneonta 2 - Potsdam 0 - Potsdam doesn't have enough to handle them... enough said
Brockport 1 - Oneonta 1 - This could go down to PKs and that could go either way. If this happens I might give the slight edge to brockport based on their goalkeeper
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 23, 2015, 04:46:34 PM
So Geneseo is also ONE OF THOSE DAMN SCHOOLS that give us a free minute and a half of HD video and then just pulls the plug...I mean c'mon what is the point. I can see some of these state school doing it for $$$ reasons but Vassar was another one that did it and do not tell me they are hurting for $$$$
I think when you see a free 90-second HD preview, after the preview you will still be offered a free SD feed of the game. You just have to pay to watch it in HD.
The SD feed is almost unwatchable...Cant see numbers and barely can see the ball...
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 25, 2015, 11:08:49 AM
The bracket set. First on Saturday Oct 31 we have #6 Buff State @ #3 Cortland with the winner traveling to #2 Brockport which takes place Wednesday November 4th. On the other side there is #5 Potsdam @ #4 Plattsburgh the winner traveling to #1 Oneonta.
The finals will take place Saturday November 7 at the high seed.
Predictions:
Cortland 3 - Buff State 1 - I think Buff state could grab one early but won't have enough to contain cortland
Potsdam 1 - Plattsburgh 1 - I feel this game could end up on PKs with Potsdam coming out on top. It has been a long time since Potsdam has done anything in the SUNYAC and they will fight for everything. Either this game will be really close or Plattsburgh just takes over and Potsdam doesnt have a chance.
That sets up Cortland @ Brockport and Potsdam @ Oneonta.
Brockport 2 - Cortland 1 - This will be a close contest. Brockport seems to start slow and really take it up a notch in the second half. From watching their last game with cortland it appeared that they were unlucky so score more.
Oneonta 2 - Potsdam 0 - Potsdam doesn't have enough to handle them... enough said
Brockport 1 - Oneonta 1 - This could go down to PKs and that could go either way. If this happens I might give the slight edge to brockport based on their goalkeeper
Cortland v Buff State 0-0 Buff State in PK's
Plattsburgh v Potsdam 2-0
New to this board, but not new to my opinions:
Cortland 1 Buff St. 0
Plattsburgh 3 Potsdam 1
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Brockport 1 Cortland 2 (my only upset)
Oneonta 3 Plattsburgh 0 (revenge)
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Oneonta 2 Cortland 0
Cortland gets pool "C" invite to NCAA....
Quote from: Part_Bart on October 26, 2015, 01:51:07 PM
New to this board, but not new to my opinions:
Cortland 1 Buff St. 0
Plattsburgh 3 Potsdam 1
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Brockport 1 Cortland 2 (my only upset)
Oneonta 3 Plattsburgh 0 (revenge)
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Oneonta 2 Cortland 0
Cortland gets pool "C" invite to NCAA....
I still do not understand how Cortland was even regionally ranked this past Wednesday. It will be interesting to see if they still are this Wednesday. Their SOS must have gone down a bit by playing Oswego and their record v ranked is 0-1-2 if I am correct...They are 10-4-2
Plattsburgh drops from 1 to 6 while Stevens takes over the top spot.
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4798 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4798)
Rank School Prev. W-L-T
1 Stevens 2 10-2-2
2 Hobart 4 11-2-2
3 Oneonta 5 13-3-1
4 St. Lawrence 6 11-3-2
5 Brockport 7 11-3-2
6 Plattsburgh 1 13-3-3
7 RPI 8 10-4-4
8 Cortland 9 11-5-2
9 Skidmore 3 9-4-1
10 Potsdam 10 10-6-1
Quote from: Golden_Fan on October 27, 2015, 08:59:24 AM
Plattsburgh drops from 1 to 6 while Stevens takes over the top spot.
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4798 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4798)
Rank School Prev. W-L-T
1 Stevens 2 10-2-2
2 Hobart 4 11-2-2
3 Oneonta 5 13-3-1
4 St. Lawrence 6 11-3-2
5 Brockport 7 11-3-2
6 Plattsburgh 1 13-3-3
7 RPI 8 10-4-4
8 Cortland 9 11-5-2
9 Skidmore 3 9-4-1
10 Potsdam 10 10-6-1
So Stevens loses but moves up to #1? Head scratcher if you ask me!
4 SUNYAC team in this weeks rankings. Oneonta moves up to #1 while plattsburgh drops to #3, Hobart drops out and brockport takes their place at #5, Cortland hanging on at #7
Rank School Division III Overall SOS RvR Prev.
1. Oneonta State 13-3-1 13-3-1 0.586 2-2-0 3
2. St. Lawrence 11-3-2 11-3-2 0.580 3-1-1 6
3. Plattsburgh State 12-3-3 12-3-3 0.582 2-1-1 1
4. RPI 10-4-3 10-4-3 0.574 2-1-1 7
5. Brockport State 11-3-2 11-3-2 0.559 3-2-0 --
6. Stevens 12-2-2 12-2-2 0.548 1-2-0 2
7. Cortland State 11-4-2 11-4-2 0.551 0-2-2 4
Cortland moves on winning 2-0. Plattsburgh and Potsdam tied at 0, 30 min in with no video for some reason
Oneonta St. Plattsburgh St. Winner of Cortland St and Brockport St your third SUNYAC team. Oneonta St to host until elite 8 if they win the AQ.
New NSCAA rankings for the east
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4877 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4877)
Rank School
1 Hobart College
2 SUNY Oneonta
3 St. Lawrence University
4 Stevens Institute Of Technology
5 College of Brockport
6 Plattsburgh State University
7 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
8 SUNY Cortland
9 SUNY Geneseo
10 Skidmore College
I gotta say that is almost SPOT on. Maybe swap Oneonta and Hobart but I LIKE IT.
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 03, 2015, 09:05:34 AM
I gotta say that is almost SPOT on. Maybe swap Oneonta and Hobart but I LIKE IT.
Agreed, for once it is fairly accurate
Plattsburgh @ Oneonta kicks off at 1:30 and you should be able to watch it here: http://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/4476506 (http://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/4476506)
Cortland @ Brockport starts at 4 and you can find that video here: http://portal.stretchinternet.com/brockport/ (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/brockport/)
Quote from: Golden_Fan on November 04, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
Plattsburgh @ Oneonta kicks off at 1:30 and you should be able to watch it here: http://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/4476506 (http://livestream.com/accounts/14594035/events/4476506)
Cortland @ Brockport starts at 4 and you can find that video here: http://portal.stretchinternet.com/brockport/ (http://portal.stretchinternet.com/brockport/)
Oneonta St. 3-1 coming off a long period of rest
Brockport solidifies their Pool C with a 2-1 OT victory today
Then Oneonta St. over Brockport 2-1 in 2OT for the final.
Plattsburgh should be okay even with a loss at Oneonta St. They would be sitting at 14-4-3 with a 2-2-1 RvR and good SOS around .585ish. This is a team that struggles on the road but excels at home which means we could see an early exit in NCAA's for them. 8-0-3 at home and 4-3-0 on the road BUT 2-0-0 on neutral fields.
I think Cortland still needs to win the SUNYAC or they will be a major bubble team if they lose in the final and probably will not make it. If Brockport loses in the semi-finals that also shakes things up and they also will be crossing their fingers come selection day.
Oneonta just goes up 1-0 on Plattsburgh in 29'
NCAA Rankings for the East remain the exact same as last week... Oneonta up 1-0 30 min in
2-0 Oneonta 4 minutes into the second half... This game is over
Oneonta ends up winning this one 3-0, out shooting Plattsburgh 14-1
Brockport and Cortland tied 0-0 at the half. Fairly even game with brockport leading in shots 11(5) - 8(3)
Cortland take the lead in the 55th minute, Brockport scores on a kick from the mark with 5 minutes to go. Not sure what the call was. We are headed into OT
BROCKPORT WINS!! About 4 minutes into the first ot, free kick from the right side leads to a scramble in the box and they knock it in.
2nd year in a row Brockport has started heating up at the end of the year
With the win, and win versus ranked team, I think Brockport moves ahead of RPI and in doing so perhaps removes the potential controversy about a 7th place conference finisher getting at at-large berth. But we'll have to see. I think it's going to be a bit harder than ever to predict which way the committee goes on the bubble teams because of all the peculiarities (RPI and North Park missing their conf. playoffs, Rutgers-Camden with 7 or 8 losses, teams with great resumes in every way except a very low SOS, higher than usual number of blemishes for most of the bubbles teams,etc.)
Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 04, 2015, 11:08:36 PM
With the win, and win versus ranked team, I think Brockport moves ahead of RPI and in doing so perhaps removes the potential controversy about a 7th place conference finisher getting at at-large berth. But we'll have to see. I think it's going to be a bit harder than ever to predict which way the committee goes on the bubble teams because of all the peculiarities (RPI and North Park missing their conf. playoffs, Rutgers-Camden with 7 or 8 losses, teams with great resumes in every way except a very low SOS, higher than usual number of blemishes for most of the bubbles teams,etc.)
Camden will have 8 losses if they don't win the AQ so they would be 13-8-1 if needing an at-large berth...personally 8 losses is WAY too many. This record would put them in the same spot as last year and they did not get in...and that was the season after making the NCAA final and losing in 2OT...if they didn't get in last year with the previous year success I do not think we will see them in this year. Just my personal thoughts...plus 8 losses is about 3 too many for me no matter how many ranked teams you play.
Well, Rutgers-Camden could be eliminated on PK's in the final, that's why I said 7 or 8 losses.
I cannot imagine Camden getting in with 7 losses even with 5 ranked wins. I do not think the committee has any intention of going past #3 in the South Atlantic. Stockton had a solid enough schedule but at 14-5-1 they needed to either beat Haverford or RPI and needed one less NJAC loss. This region is basically STUCK in neutral as no one is still playing that could pass Rowan. Rowan is the only Pool C in this region. Do I think it's fair ? NO Do I think there are some very good teams in this region? YES. However, this is why players need to be reminded EVERY game is important. NO slip ups, no loss of concentration because 2nd year in a row a mid-season swoon has killed Camden. Now I have no idea if that is because of injuries or bad luck or whatever. If they lose in the NJAC Final then you can say they did not learn from last year's debacle. However, they seem to be one of the hottest teams in the country. Not sure what MSU is playing for at this point they are probably already on a filled out bracket hosting RD64/RD 32
Quote from: Flying Weasel on November 05, 2015, 08:42:27 AM
Well, Rutgers-Camden could be eliminated on PK's in the final, that's why I said 7 or 8 losses.
Very true 7 is 2 losses too many then for me and either way its still 9 blemishes.
EAST SOS
609 Rochester (NY)
583 Oneonta St
581 PIT
578 Vassar
573 Potsdam St
572 Fredonia
569 NYU
567 SLU
564 RPI
563 Clarkson
563 Plattsburgh St
561 Geneseo St
555 Brockport St
554 St. John Fisher
550 Cortland St
546 Oswego St
542 Stevens Tech
542 Union
536 Buffalo St
533 Ithaca
527 New Paltz St
525 Skidmore
524 Hobart
519 Mt. St. Mary (NY)
509 Utica
507 Purchase
500 Canton St
499 Nazareth
495 Houghton
494 Brooklyn
493 St. Joseph's (LI)
490 Elmire
484 Bard
474 Yeshiva
473 Farmingdale St
464 Old Wesbury
462 Staten Island
461 Sage
453 Maritime St
452 Alfred
450 Medgar Evars
447 John Jay
443 Hunter
440 CCNY
439 Lehman
432 Baruch
432 Mt. St. Vincent
426 Sarah Lawrence
417 St. Joseph's (BK)
415 Alfred St
403 York (NY)
For the first time since 2011 brockport makes it to the final and will have a chance to avenge that loss and an earlier season loss to oneonta. In the earlier macth up oneonta out shout bport 14(4) - 8(4). In this game look for oneonta to maintain a more possession and work the ball while bport tends to be more direct. Another thing to watch out for is set pieces, defending on these could prove to be the difference.
I will stick with my earlier prediction that this one stays close 0-0 or 1-1 and has to go into kicks from the mark to decide the winner with brockport with the upset.
I'll say Brockport springs the upset 1-0.
Oneonta's Cory Santangelo gives them a 1-0 lead over Brockport. He is a legit striker for a soph who comes up with big goal after big goal.
Oneonta St just dominating Brockport 3-0. They might be one of the hottest teams in the country right now.
Oneonta 3 - Brockport 0. Oneonta scored off of 2 set pieces. They are just on fire right now
WOW brockport got screwed
Happy to see the Plattsburgh State Cardinals get an at large bid to the NCAA tournament. They will take on Bowdoin on Saturday at host MIT. MIT will play Bridgewater State in the other game. Winners to play on Sunday to advance to the Sweet 16. Hope the Cardinals can get all their players healthy by game time.
Final regular season East Poll. I have to say the top 5 in this poll look more like the teams that should have made the tournament
http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4958 (http://www.nscaa.com/rankings/4958)
Brockport got screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RPI is a crime. Poor Etown and anybody else more deserving than RPI which is probably about 10 other teams. What a shame.
Like I said before it's a crime that 2013 and 2014 RPI teams did not get in because they could of done some damage. This year's squad is average at best. ETOWN is not the team that got screwed. The 2 teams that got screwed were 1. Midd 2. Brockport
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 10, 2015, 09:54:44 AM
Like I said before it's a crime that 2013 and 2014 RPI teams did not get in because they could of done some damage. This year's squad is average at best. ETOWN is not the team that got screwed. The 2 teams that got screwed were 1. Midd 2. Brockport
Yes. Midd, Brockport, Etown, Stockton, Messiah, Team A, Team B, Team C, anybody else except RPI that can kick a soccer ball.
Well RPI did beat Stockton so I understand that one
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 10, 2015, 09:58:03 AM
Well RPI did beat Stockton so I understand that one
And Etown beat Dickinson. Doesn't mean head to head always wins.
But yes I did not see Stockton getting in. Midd or Brockport would have been my picks. Even Colorado to give a bid to the west.
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on November 10, 2015, 10:05:02 AM
Quote from: Mr.Right on November 10, 2015, 09:58:03 AM
Well RPI did beat Stockton so I understand that one
And Etown beat Dickinson. Doesn't mean head to head always wins.
and brockport beat plattsburgh....
Plattsburgh got in because they had one of the better schedules in the East Region. They had victories over 3 teams in the regional rankings, including Oneonta on the road. Their 4 losses were all against regionally ranked opponents, were all on the road, and 3 of them were by a single goal. They lost to Oneonta the 2nd time they played them at Oneonta in the SUNYAC tournament 3-0 but they were not a healthy team in that game. The loss to Brockport down there on the final weekend of SUNYAC play was the culmination of the team playing shorthanded and just running out of gas from the back to back games and the long road trip. Brockport had a great effort coming from a 2-0 deficit to win 3-2. It's tough to win on the road in the YAC, in any sport and especially when you have to make the long trek from the top of the state to the far reaches of the western part. Even the basketball teams, regardless of how high they are in the YAC standings, have a hard time winning on the road when they have too make that long trip. In a perfect world the Golden Eagles could have gotten an at large bid as well as Plattsburgh but things aren't always that cozy. Last winter Plattsburgh State's men's basketball team sat at the selection table as the top team from the East Region awaiting an at large bid. 19 times they were passed over by the national selection committee, despite the fact that they had beaten a host of teams that were going to the NCAA tournament, had led the YAC for most of the season and were the regular season champs. A number of basketball coaches in the league that I know all felt we got the short end of the stick and we did. The regular season champions of the NESCAC conference, Trinity, lost to Cortland last year, a Red Dragon team that finished 7th in our conference and didn't even make the YAC playoffs. Yet Trinity got an at large bid and they didn't even make the championship game of their conference tournament. Plattsburgh at least lost in the finals of the YAC tournament to Oswego, a team we beat 2 of 3 times. So having been there, I feel for the Brockport supporters on getting left out by the NCAA selection committee. I'm sure the Golden Eagles will be back in the tournament in the near future. Meanwhile I hope Oneonta and Plattsburgh can win a few and make the SUNYAC proud. Go RED DRAGONS...GO CARDINALS
Every team deals with injuries in the later part of the season, that just what happens in every sport. Also, by the end of the season they should be used to playing back to back games, if not that is on the coach and their conditioning.
If we are comparing the RVR at the end of the year Plattsburgh ended up 1-3-1 with their only win coming over oneonta and losses against SLU, Brockport, and oneonta the second time they played. Giving a winning percentage of 20%.
Brockports RVR ended up being 3-3-0 with wins over ohio northern (away), Plattsburgh, and Cortland and losses to oneonta (twice) and Johns Hopkins. Which is a winning percentage of 50%
They both had comparable overall winning percentages and SOS and brockport owned the H2H. Based on just numbers brockport probably should have squeaked in.
Regardless, RPI shouldn't have even been in the picture.
End of season awards. http://www.sunyac.com/news/2015/11/10/MSOC_1110153607.aspx (http://www.sunyac.com/news/2015/11/10/MSOC_1110153607.aspx)
Congrats to all
First Team
Peter DiLorenzo SR F Brockport
Cory Santangelo SO F Oneonta
Jake Sutherland SR F Oneonta
Alexis Archilla JR F Plattsburgh
Anthony Passiatore JR M Oneonta
Luke Pavone JR M Buffalo State
Dylan Williams SR M Oneonta
Fabian Chapparo SR M Plattsburgh
Brad Campion SR D Geneseo
Jared Van Brunt SR D Oneonta
Vincent Pellegrino SR G Oneonta
Second Team
Bass Sarr FR F Buffalo State
Nick Tata JR F Cortland
Jason Gonzalez SR F New Paltz
Bernard Osei FR F Oswego
Matt D'Amico JR M Geneseo
Ethan Votraw SR M Plattsburgh
Sean Streb SR D Cortland
Hunter Critchow SO D Fredonia
Matthew Matteo SR D Oneonta
Greg Silvestro SR D Oneonta
Nick Economou JR D Plattsburgh
Joe Brandofino JR G Cortland
Third Team
Tyler Kirschner JR F Cortland
Hans Purtell JR F Oneonta J
Ben Firlit SR F Potsdam
Daniel Friend JR M Cortland
Robby Reiser SR M Cortland
Matthew Roorda SR D Brockport
Mark Sylvia JR D Brockport
Clay Sherman SR D Plattsburgh
Alex Griffith SR D Potsdam
Matthew Wagner SO D Potsdam
Casey Sullivan SR G Brockport
Huntley Parker Offensive Player of the Year: Peter DiLorenzo, Brockport
Fred Holloway Defensive Player of the Year: Jared Van Brunt, Oneonta
Rookie of the Year: Bernard Osei, Oswego
Coach of the Year: Iain Byrne, Oneonta
2015 NSCAA NCAA Division III Men's All-East Region
http://www.nscaa.com/2015-nscaa-ncaa-division-iii-men-s-all-east-region (http://www.nscaa.com/2015-nscaa-ncaa-division-iii-men-s-all-east-region)
First Team
Pos. Player Class School Hometown
K TJ Zehner Sr. Sage Beacon, N.Y.
D Harry Copeland Sr. St. Lawrence Dedham, Mass.
D Kyle Herod Sr. Hobart Lancaster, N.Y.
D Kyle LeClerc Jr. Sage Beacon, N.Y.
D Jared Van Brunt Sr. SUNY Oneonta Sayville, N.Y.
M Fabian Chaparro Sr. Plattsburgh State Mamaroneck, N.Y.
M Colin Phillips Sr. Stevens Institute Of Technology Mechanicsburg, Pa.
M Dylan Williams Sr. SUNY Oneonta Monroe, N.Y.
F Alexis Archilla Jr. Plattsburgh State Warwick, N.Y.
F Peter DiLorenzo Sr. College at Brockport Hickville, N.Y.
F Carson Pryor Sr. Stevens Institute Of Technology St. Louis, Mo.
Second Team
Pos. Player Class School Hometown
K Vincent Pellegrino Sr. SUNY Oneonta Baldwin, N.Y.
D Harrison Kane Sr. Stevens Institute Of Technology Tulsa, Okla.
D Adebare Oyeniyi Jr. Skidmore College Lagos, Nigeria
D Luis Teran Jr. Sage Farmingville, N.Y.
M Matt D'Amico Jr. SUNY Geneseo Pittsford, N.Y.
M Edward Gonzalez Sr. St. Lawrence Central Falls, R.I.
M Jordan Palmer Sr. Vassar Woodland Hills, Calif.
F Nathaniel Gunderson Sr. Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Olympia, Wash.
F Augustine Okoye So. Skidmore Abuja, Nigeria
F Cory Santangelo So. SUNY Oneonta Sayville, N.Y.
F Nick Tata Jr. SUNY Cortland Rochester, N.Y.
Third Team
Pos. Player Class School Hometown
K Eli Kisselbach Sr. Skidmore Stamford, Conn.
D Dan Hunt Sr. St. Lawrence South Glastonbury, Conn.
D Sean Streb Sr. SUNY Cortland Ithaca, N.Y.
D Jesse Toth Jr. Houghton Victor, N.Y.
M Richard Lander Jr. Alfred Narrowsburg, N.Y.
M Anthony Passiatore So. SUNY Oneonta South Setauket, N.Y.
M Luke Pavone Jr. Buffalo State Rochester, NY
F Derrick Acheampong Fr. Hobart Needham, Mass.
F Michael Bryant Jr. Elmira Portolo Hills, Calif.
F Kevin Jardines Jr. Mount St. Vincent Riverdale, N.Y.
F Nick Shenberger So. Bard Hummelstown, Pa.
NSCAA D3 All Americans
First Team
Pos. Name Class School Hometown
K Sam Clougher Jr. Kenyon Dublin, Ireland
D Tom Carwile* Sr. Trinity (Texas) Tulsa, Okla.
D Martin Fevre Sr. Elizabethtown Chablis, France
D Nick Groenewold Sr. Calvin Oak Brook, Ill.
D Conor Lanahan* Sr. Brandeis Avon, Conn.
D Deklan Robinson Sr. Middlebury Gloucester, Mass.
M Logan Andryk*** Sr. Milwaukee Engineering Hartland, Wis.
M Jeremiah Barnes Sr. Kenyon Largo, Fla.
M Sean Bingham* Sr. Massachusetts Insititute Of Technology Garden City, N.Y.
M Damian Bziukiewicz Sr. Montclair State East Rutherford, N.J.
M Caleb Cole* Jr. Gordon Coatesville, Pa.
F Tony Amolo* Jr. Kenyon Lagos, Nigeria
F Kyle Farrar Jr. St. Scholastica London, England
F Chase TenBrook Sr. Franklin & Marshall Millville, N.J.
F Gilbert Waso Fr Elizabethtown Elizabethtown, Pa.
Second Team
Pos. First Class School Hometown
K Chad Margotta Sr. Trinity (Texas) San Antonio, Texas
D Harry Copeland* Sr. St. Lawrence Dedham, Mass.
D Kyle Goodwin So. Montclair State Carteret, N.J.
D Kyle Thomas So. Lycoming Bel Air, Md.
M Chris Cvecko Sr. Case Western Reserve Erie, Pa.
M Marshall Hollingsworth** Sr. Wheaton (Ill.) Libertyville, Ill.
M Josh Ocel Jr. Brandeis North Attleboro, Mass.
M John Saracco Jr. Eastern Boontown Township, N.J.
M Dylan Williams* Sr SUNY Oneonta Monroe, N.Y.
M Sam Yarosh Sr. Haverford West Chester, Pa.
F Peter DiLorenzo Sr. College at Brockport Hicksville, N.Y.
F Austin Juniet* Sr. Thomas More Ft. Thomas, Ky.
F Nico Pascual-Leone Sr. Amherst Wayland, Mass.
F Nico Roth Sr. Millsaps Alzenau, Germany
F Brian Schaefer Sr. Ohio Wesleyan Chatham, N.J.
F Shaun Watt Jr. Greensboro College Montreal, Que.
F William Webb Sr. Carnegie Mellon Dallas, Texas
Third Team
Pos. First Class School Hometown
K Thomas Bull* Sr. Amherst Montgomery, N.J.
D Jacob Bender Jr. Messiah Baltimore, Md.
D Kevin Krueger Sr. Wartburg Prior Lake, Minn.
D Carter Ocko Jr. Endicott Danvers, Mass.
D Justin Stanko Jr. Wisconsin-Whitewater St. Charles, Ill.
D Spencer Wolfe Sr. Whitworth Bellingham, Wash.
M Patrik Devlin Jr. Connecticut College Washington Crossing, Pa.
M Danny Rowe Sr. Messiah Lancaster, Pa.
M Christian Sakshaug Fr. Trinity (Texas) San Antonio, Texas
F Braden Andryk So. Milwaukee Engineering Hartland, Wis.
F Alexis Archilla Jr. Plattsburgh State Warwick, N.Y.
F Max Grossenbacher Sr. Colorado College Austin, Texas
F Matt Kinkopf Jr. Ohio Northern West Chester, Ohio
F Caleb Lucas Jr. Maryville (Tenn.) Maryville, Tenn.
F Eirik Nordseth Sr. Methodist Steinkjer, Norway
F Johnny Rummelhart Sr. Loras Iowa City, Iowa
F Michael Ryan** Sr. Rutgers-Camden Marlton, N.J.