2016 NJAC PRESEASON POLL
http://njacsports.com/news/2016/8/8/MSO_0808161842.aspx?path=msoc
1. Montclair State (7)
2. Rowan (2)
3. Rutgers-Camden (1)
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Kean (dark horse)
6. Stockton
7. TCNJ
8. William Paterson
9. Ramapo
10. NJCU
(first place votes in parenthesis)
ODAC PRESEASON POLL
http://odaconline.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/releases/082516-msoc-preseasonpoll
1. Washington and Lee University (10) 119 pts.
2. Roanoke College (1) 104 pts.
3. Randolph College (1) 98 pts.
4. Lynchburg College 94 pts.
5. Virginia Wesleyan College 83 pts.
6. Randolph-Macon College 76 pts.
7. Bridgewater College 59 pts.
8. Eastern Mennonite University 49 pts.
9. Hampden-Sydney College 34 pts.
10. Guilford College 31 pts.
11. Emory & Henry College 28 pts.
12. Shenandoah University 17 pts.
CAC PRESEASON POLL
USAC MEN'S PRESEASON POLL
http://www.usasouth.net/sports/msoc/2016-17/releases/20160816g3l9vw
1. Greensboro (4) 91
1. Methodist (4) 91
3. Maryville (3) 88
4. N.C. Wesleyan 72
5. Averett 66
6. Covenant 55
7. Ferrum 46
8. Huntingdon 33
9. Piedmont 32
10. William Peace 17
11. LaGrange 14
SAA PREASON POLL
UAA PRESAON POLL
On Sunday Marymount lost to the University of DC (D2 school) in a scrimmage. It was an evenly played first half that ended 0-0. UDC only brought 17 players, while Marymount had 33.
A lot more subs in the second half and UDC started to take control. Well worked run down the left and a pullback for the striker to slot home for the first goal. The second came in the 90' on a shot right at the backup GK that somehow trickled over the line.
Marymount gave minutes to every player, so it's hard to make too much of the second half, but with 9 returning starters and a strong Freshmen class they should make the CAC playoffs and push for a top 4 conference finish.
Marymount has another scrimmage on Friday.
W&L is going to have to prove it early. They open with Rowan and follow it up with Oneonta State. Both games at Rowan. You add Ohio Wesleyan in Ohio, and Messiah at home, to the non-conf and it is clear Coach Singleton is leaving his mark on the schedule in his third season. It'll be interesting to see if it pays off.
Last Night:
Roanoke College 6 Ferrum College 2
No details from the game. Just the score.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on August 24, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
2016 NJAC PRESEASON POLL
http://njacsports.com/news/2016/8/8/MSO_0808161842.aspx?path=msoc
1. Montclair State (7)
2. Rowan (2)
3. Rutgers-Camden (1)
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Kean (dark horse)
6. Stockton
7. TCNJ
8. William Paterson
9. Ramapo
10. NJCU
(first place votes in parenthesis)
2016 NJAC PRESEASON POLL
This is what I would go with...pretty similar.
1. Rowan
2. Montclair State
3. Rutgers-Camden
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Stockton
6. Kean
7. TCNJ
8. Ramapo
9. William Paterson
10. NJCU
ODAC preseason poll:
1. Washington and Lee University (10) 119 pts.
2. Roanoke College (1) 104 pts.
3. Randolph College (1) 98 pts.
4. Lynchburg College 94 pts.
5. Virginia Wesleyan College 83 pts.
6. Randolph-Macon College 76 pts.
7. Bridgewater College 59 pts.
8. Eastern Mennonite University 49 pts.
9. Hampden-Sydney College 34 pts.
10. Guilford College 31 pts.
11. Emory & Henry College 28 pts.
12. Shenandoah University 17 pts.
2016 CAC Men's Soccer Preseason Poll
1. Salisbury (5 first-place votes) 75 points
2. Christopher Newport (3 first-place votes) 69 points
3. York (1 first-place vote) 64 points
4. Mary Washington 57 points
5. Frostburg State (1 first-place vote) 51 points
6. St. Mary's 45 points
7. Wesley 38 points
8. Marymount 21 points
9. Penn State Harrisburg 20 points
10. Southern Virginia 9 points
Quote from: Shooter McGavin on August 26, 2016, 08:35:29 AM
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on August 24, 2016, 10:13:42 AM
2016 NJAC PRESEASON POLL
http://njacsports.com/news/2016/8/8/MSO_0808161842.aspx?path=msoc
1. Montclair State (7)
2. Rowan (2)
3. Rutgers-Camden (1)
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Kean (dark horse)
6. Stockton
7. TCNJ
8. William Paterson
9. Ramapo
10. NJCU
(first place votes in parenthesis)
2016 NJAC PRESEASON POLL
This is what I would go with...pretty similar.
1. Rowan
2. Montclair State
3. Rutgers-Camden
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Stockton
6. Kean
7. TCNJ
8. Ramapo
9. William Paterson
10. NJCU
I'd go with:
1. MSU - return enough and should roll
2. Rowan - will be dangerous in post season
3. Stockton - Colofransen could break Mike Ryan's record
4. Rutgers-Newark
5. Rutgers-Camden - lose too much talent again. Who will step up and score?
6. Kean (dark horse) - new coach but Kherlopian will help push for an NJAC run
7. TCNJ
8. WPU
9. Ramapo
10. NJCU
CAC preseason preview:
http://cacsports.com/sports/msoc/2016-17/releases/msoc_pre_poll
Last night, Hampden-Sydney 5-1 over Ferrum, at Ferrum.
Hampden-Sydney 2-0 over Averett last week.
Last night:
Roanoke College 6 Averrit 0
Last game before Messiah comes to town this weekend.
Hampden-Sydney starts off with a 2-0 win on the road at Penn St-Harrisburg. Both goals scored in the last 12 minutes. Not a lot of offense, kind of choppy play on a small field.
Someone at the game said the field was only 94 yards long. If true that makes it tough to play.
NSCAA Projections:
WEEK 1
1. Rowan 3rd (behind Amherst and Loras)
2. CNU 12th
3. Salisbury 18th
4. Lynchburg
5. Mary Washington (could see MW and Lynchburg flipped...)
6. York
7. Centre
8. St. Marys
9. MSU
10. Rutgers-Camden
1-5 should be set, next 5 is a crapshoot this early... will be interesting to see where MSU is slotted. They shouldn't be below 6, but we know how the NSCAA votes...
W&L finishes a tough weekend road trip 1-1. Losing to one of the top teams in the region, Rowan, at Rowan in their first game, and coming back to top Oneonta State, a pre-season national favorite, in a neutral site game. Oneonta State went on to lose 1-0 to Rowan at Rowan to round out the tournament.
Heck of an opening for all 3 teams. Have to believe W&L was expected to go 0-2, so splitting the games was very good. Oneonta St. might be off their pace a bit as they are fitting in a lot of new pieces, but that's still a big win for W&L. This weekend is another huge road trip, with a game at Ohio Wesleyan. SVa plays the trap game Thursday, and Wooster rounds out the pre-season OOC before the ODAC schedule picks up.
The Battling Bishops picked up a win against Hope and a big win against Calvin, so they will be another big time opponent for the Generals.
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on September 06, 2016, 07:19:00 AM
NSCAA Projections:
WEEK 1
1. Rowan 3rd (behind Amherst and Loras)
2. CNU 12th
3. Salisbury 18th
4. Lynchburg
5. Mary Washington (could see MW and Lynchburg flipped...)
6. York
7. Centre
8. St. Marys
9. MSU
10. Rutgers-Camden
1-5 should be set, next 5 is a crapshoot this early... will be interesting to see where MSU is slotted. They shouldn't be below 6, but we know how the NSCAA votes...
Rowan should be #1 after the start they have had! WOW!
I, along with NCAC NE, agree with you...
Rowan could be #1 at this point, but Amherst will still get their votes in an IDLE week. I think in the D3soccer.com poll they will be #2, and in NSCAA they will be #3. I don't see Loras dropping a spot for a 2-0 weekend.
Rowan at F&M could be a #3 vs #4 match-up on 9/21...
W&L rolls over SVa. This had the makings of a trap game, coming between the big road trip to NJ to open the season and the trip to Ohio this weekend, but the Generals easily took care of business despite giving up the first goal early.
On to the Battling Bishops.
W&L takes out Ohio Wesleyan at the Battling Bishops home tournament. 3-1 after going down 1-0 in the first half. With 10 goals in 3 games after the 2-0 loss to Rowan to start the season, the Generals look in good shape for the game against Wooster tomorrow and then the start of the ODAC season.
Quote from: jknezek on September 10, 2016, 08:00:27 PM
W&L takes out Ohio Wesleyan at the Battling Bishops home tournament. 3-1 after going down 1-0 in the first half. With 10 goals in 3 games after the 2-0 loss to Rowan to start the season, the Generals look in good shape for the game against Wooster tomorrow and then the start of the ODAC season.
Congrats. A very good win for your program. W&L even survived the infamous OWU early goal. I've probably watched 7 or 8 OWU games where I was still getting the snacks lined up and OWU already had scored.
Christopher Newport heading out West next week to play Redlands in what should be one of the feature games of the week and an also still unbeaten Chapman. I applaud these occasional cross-country trips at the D3 level, just as I applaud those programs that take advantage of preseason trips abroad. I see these as big perks for the kids and an enhancement of their overall collegiate experiences as student-athletes.
If state-funded schools like UMass-Boston and Christopher Newport can make cross-country trips then I see no reason why we can't get more at least cross-regional games, involving New England trips for Centennial, ODAC, NCAC, etc conferences and vice versa. Again, interestingly, some of the state-funded NJAC and SUNYAC teams seem to travel more than some others.
The South Atlantic has had some very strong results to start the season...
NSCAA thoughts
1. Rowan (5-0) wins over W&L, Oneonta St, and Lyco
2. CNU (4-0) clear cut #2 with perfect record and wins over NCWC and VWC.
3. W&L (4-1) wins over Oneonta St and OWU
4. Salisbury (2-0-1) easy schedule to start, but seemingly get the votes.
5. Centre (4-0) with a strong win over Thomas More ... Never know how NSCAA will vote these SAA schools.
6. MSU (5-1) bad loss early but a strong win over Stevens.
7. Lynchburg (3-0-1)
8. St. Mary's (4-0-1)
9. Rutgers-Camden (2-0-2) draw vs St Mary's on Neutral site).
10. Mary Washington (4-1) win over Stockton does not look as impressive, but also beat Catholic
10. Rutgers-Newark
Kean / York ....
Newark with strong wins over Babson and Whitworth;
Kean with strong win over Brockport St and a good loss vs Rochester
York with a strong result vs Randolph and F&M
Ramapo is a quiet 4-0 vs some good schools; ECSU, Susqu... not sure how voters will take to this one...
NJCU is 6-0...
Maryville is 3-1 with wins over Oglethorpe and Millsaps
My top 8 would be:
1) Rowan
2) W&L
3) MSU
4) CNU
5) Newark
6) Salisbury
7) St. Mary's
8) Lynchburg
Ex-Montclair star Kyle Goodwin started and playing right now for Rutgers agains #4 Maryland on Big 10 channel. Committed a totally unnecessary foul at edge of box to gift Maryland a pk in first 6 minutes but otherwise has shown very well.
Speaking of Montclair, they win comfortable 3-1 over Whitworth after being up 3-0. Who did they really lose besides Goodwin? All the names in the scoring sound familiar.
Have a feeling the Rowan-MSU games are going to be among the best games of the entire season, including the tournament.
NJCU moves to 7-0... Out of conference games remaining: @ York (NY), NYU, Moravian. Should reach 10-11 wins by the end of the year.
NJAC overall record: 47-10-5 (.798)
UAA overall record: 25-7-3 (.757)
ODAC overall record: 33-14-9 (.670)
CAC overall record: 30-15-7 (.644)
SAA overall record: 22-13-2 (.622)
USAC overall record: 18-30-5 (.387)
Week 2 NSCAA Prediction
1) Rowan University (7-0); DA Hood 2-0, DA NJCU 4-2
2) Washington & Lee (5-1); DH VWU 2-1
3) Centre (5-0); DA DePauw 3-2 (Another strong win, another test vs Kenyon)...
4) CNU (6-1); DH Methodist, DA Redlands 2-1, LA Chapman 5-3 (Does CNU fall this far with a 2-1 week)? Centre needs to move up and W&L should be #2...)
5) Lynchburg University (4-0-2) TA Oglethorpe 2-2, DA Berry 1-0 (Does the DRAW see them slip a few spots)
6) St. Mary's (6-0-1); DA Catholic 1-0, DH Randolph-Macon 3-2
7) Rutgers-Camden (4-0-2); DA Cabrini 1-0, DH Rutgers-Newark 3-0 (Camden tied St. Mary's late at a Neutral site and has stronger SOS...)
8) Ramapo (6-0); DH Arcadia 2-1, DA Montclair St 4-3 (Where does Ramapo fit in the mix with wins at ECSU and MSU? Could they be as high as 6th?)
9) New Jersey City (7-1); DH Staten Island 1-0, LH Rowan 4-2
10) Kean (7-1); DH SUNY-Old Westbury 1-0, DH Stockton 4-1
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RV:
Mary Washington (5-1); DA Roanoke 2-1
Randolph (4-1-1); DH Birmingham-Southern 2-0
Rutgers-Newark (6-2); DA Mt St. Mary 4-0, LA Rutgers-Camden 3-0
MSU (6-2); DH Whitworth 3-1, LH Ramapo 4-3
Birmingham-Southern (5-1); DA LaGrange 3-0, LA Randolph 2-0
Salisbury (3-1-1); DH Washington College 1-0, LA Neumann 2-1
York lost twice this week
1 Rowan University DA Hood College 2-0; DA New Jersey City University 4-2; 2 7-0-0
2 Christopher Newport University DH Methodist University 4-0; DA University of Redlands 2-1; LA Chapman University 3-5; 1 6-1-0
3 Washington & Lee University DH Virginia Wesleyan College 2-1; 4 5-1-0
4 Lynchburg College TA Oglethorpe University 2-2; DA Berry College 1-0; 3 4-0-2
5 St. Mary's College of Maryland DA Catholic University 1-0; DH Randolph-Macon College 3-2; 5 6-0-1
6 Centre College DA DePauw University 3-2; 6 4-0-0
7 Ramapo College DH Arcadia University 2-1; DA Montclair State University 4-3; NR 6-0-0
8 Kean University DH SUNY Old Westbury 1-0; DH Stockton University 4-1; NR 7-1-0
9 University Of Mary Washington DA Roanoke College 2-1; NR 5-1-0
10 Rutgers University-Camden DA Cabrini College 2-1; DH Rutgers University-Newark 3-0; NR 4-0-2
Interesting that W&L scheduled Va Wes and Lynchburg as OOC games. I really don't like the ODAC system this year. Wish they would just schedule the full round robin, as we've done in the past, even though it cuts into some of the OOC games. Last year we played 11 conference games, this year they cut it to 9. W&L scheduled the missing 2 as OOC games anyway, Va Wes and Lynchburg.
Was this simply a matter of wanting more OOC games and more scheduling flexibility. Anyone know?
The difference in quality between top half of the ODAC and the bottom half is crazy. I believe they did this to help the ODAC become a multi bid league. No offense to the bottom ODAC teams, but playing them and even beating them, hurts strength of schedule. Which is one of the top criteria the committee uses for at large bids.
I think it's worth a shot.
ODAC weekend update:
Bridgewater 0 Randolph-Macon 1
Roanoke 1 Emory & Henry 0
Washington and Lee 5 Shenandoah 0
Guilford 0 Greensboro 1
Virginia Wesleyan 0 Randolph 0
Eastern Mennonite 0 Lebanon Valley 4
Hampden-Sydney 0 Lynchburg 1
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on September 22, 2016, 08:45:00 PM
The difference in quality between top half of the ODAC and the bottom half is crazy. I believe they did this to help the ODAC become a multi bid league. No offense to the bottom ODAC teams, but playing them and even beating them, hurts strength of schedule. Which is one of the top criteria the committee uses for at large bids.
I think it's worth a shot.
Well, yeah. But this only works if you jimmy the schedule so the supposed best ODAC teams meet in conference every year. That way the strong helps the strong, and the weak are left to have crappy SOS. This year W&L had to be considered one of the top 4 squads. So if you are trying to keep their SOS up, you'd have them definitely play other teams expected to be in the Top Half. And yet, both Lynchburg and Va Wes were not part of W&L's conference schedule. So W&L gets the easiest part of the schedule, hurting their SOS, and having the opposite effect. Of course scheduling Lynchburg and Va Wes OOC solves the problem, but it also puts us right back where we started. Have a full round robin or jimmy the schedule to help the strongest teams. Don't f up the round robin and punish one of your contender's SOS by giving them the softest schools instead of the best.
The only way this makes sense is to give the competitors the easiest schedule, to have the best record even if they have lame SOS numbers, and then hope the tournament games boost the SOS. But that's a terrible assumption, as playing Lynchburg twice if you are W&L is more helpful than only maybe getting a shot at them in the tournament.
Either way, bring back the round robin. Especially if the teams are going to schedule each other anyway.
I see your point. There has to be some advantage for going with the unbalanced schedule or the coaches wouldn't have approved it.
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on September 26, 2016, 04:20:48 PM
I see your point. There has to be some advantage for going with the unbalanced schedule or the coaches wouldn't have approved it.
I agree. Must be something I'm not seeing. Maybe it's a trial balloon and W&L just chose not to participate. Or perhaps it was approved so late that OOC games were hard to find and it's something done for the future. Got me, I just think it's stupid. You don't like your conference, tough luck. It's all cyclical. Sometimes your good, sometimes your crappy. Win your conference, play a few good OOC games, and you'll be in the tournament in OK shape. Make a run in the tournament, do it all over again next year, and you'll get a really good seed. Do it a third time and you'll start getting the benefit of the doubt come seeding time. Then it won't matter so much. Don't try and game the system.
W&L rolls over another ODAC school. 9 goals scored in 2 games, 5-0 at Shenandoah and 4-0 hosting EMU. Only one SOG against in 2 games. The Generals host H-SC (5-3) coming up Saturday. After a hot start, the Tigers have lost 3 straight. Either H-SC or Guilford could play the role of trap opponents this week, as next weekend Messiah comes to town followed by Lynchburg. Generals need to stay focused on the two ODAC opponents before venturing back into a pair of difficult OOC games.
Noke draws a 1-7 Stevenson team last night 0-0.
One of those games where we dominated but just couldn't finish. out shot the Mustangs 24-5, 15-3 corner advantage, shot off cross bar, another off the post, ball cleared off the goal line. Just one of those games. Credit to the Stevenson GK who played a hell of match.
Back to ODAC play vs Shenandoah on Friday night.
I heard that Averett had to forfeit their 2-1 OT win over Marymount due to their usage of an ineligible player. Their website has been updated to show a 1-0 loss.
Does anyone know the details of this?
Quote from: Goldenrj on September 29, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
I heard that Averett had to forfeit their 2-1 OT win over Marymount due to their usage of an ineligible player. Their website has been updated to show a 1-0 loss.
Does anyone know the details of this?
I don't know any details, but looking at 4 games, Mary Washington, Marymount, Randolph, and Berry, I found one player that is listed as having played in the Marymount game but not the other three. I'm not posting a name because this does not constitute anything remotely like proof. I was just curious. I will say this player shows up later in games, so either the issue was cured by then, or I'm simply wrong. Again, a good reason not to make the name public.
Quote from: jknezek on September 30, 2016, 09:10:45 AM
Quote from: Goldenrj on September 29, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
I heard that Averett had to forfeit their 2-1 OT win over Marymount due to their usage of an ineligible player. Their website has been updated to show a 1-0 loss.
Does anyone know the details of this?
I don't know any details, but looking at 4 games, Mary Washington, Marymount, Randolph, and Berry, I found one player that is listed as having played in the Marymount game but not the other three. I'm not posting a name because this does not constitute anything remotely like proof. I was just curious. I will say this player shows up later in games, so either the issue was cured by then, or I'm simply wrong. Again, a good reason not to make the name public.
I wasn't asking for the name of the player, good call not to post it. Marymount updated their site tonight too so it must be official.
Noke wins 5-1 over Shenandoah last night in ODAC action
Some decent matches today:
W&L vs Sydney
Va Wes vs LBurg
W&L had a hard time getting the ball to go in the net, scoring 12 minutes in but not again until the 88th minute beating H-SC 2-0. W&L took 23 shots, allowed only 4. Nine corners to none. A strong performance even if the ball stubbornly wouldn't go over the line.
W&L travels to Guilford for a night game tonight. The Generals need to keep their eyes on this game and off the next two. Thankfully I don't have that problem and I'm just hoping the weather isn't going to be a problem for Messiah's visit to Lexington. As opposed to the massive construction dust and clanking sounds during W&L's home playoff game last year, the facilities should be in beautiful shape provided the outer bands of a hurricane don't mess it all up.
I have no idea which team bad weather would help, but I'd rather see the weather be good and really see how W&L measures up against another of the traditional DIII elites. Last year W&L was game in PA, but the overtime loss was a result that favored the Generals as they really didn't get much possession or create much danger after the first 20 or 30 minutes. I certainly think we'd see some improvement on that this year, but it'll be hard to tell if the game is played in the slop.
Quote from: jknezek on October 05, 2016, 02:45:26 PM
I have no idea which team bad weather would help, but I'd rather see the weather be good and really see how W&L measures up against another of the traditional DIII elites. Last year W&L was game in PA, but the overtime loss was a result that favored the Generals as they really didn't get much possession or create much danger after the first 20 or 30 minutes. I certainly think we'd see some improvement on that this year, but it'll be hard to tell if the game is played in the slop.
Messiah is improved compared to last year as well, but given W&L beat Ohio Wesleyan on the road, I think W&L is the favorite is this one. For both teams, this is a great measuring stick game and a win for either side would probably prove very, very useful if an at-large berth is needed to get into the tournament. For Messiah, it'd be nice if all their starters were back healthy for this one. In yesteryears I would make the trip down from PA without a doubt, but family and OT at work mean it's not really an option.
Quote from: Flying Weasel on October 05, 2016, 02:56:24 PM
Quote from: jknezek on October 05, 2016, 02:45:26 PM
I have no idea which team bad weather would help, but I'd rather see the weather be good and really see how W&L measures up against another of the traditional DIII elites. Last year W&L was game in PA, but the overtime loss was a result that favored the Generals as they really didn't get much possession or create much danger after the first 20 or 30 minutes. I certainly think we'd see some improvement on that this year, but it'll be hard to tell if the game is played in the slop.
Messiah is improved compared to last year as well, but given W&L beat Ohio Wesleyan on the road, I think W&L is the favorite is this one. For both teams, this is a great measuring stick game and a win for either side would probably prove very, very useful if an at-large berth is needed to get into the tournament. For Messiah, it'd be nice if all their starters were back healthy for this one. In yesteryears I would make the trip down from PA without a doubt, but family and OT at work mean it's not really an option.
W&L's video production is usually pretty good, though not like Messiah's. The bandwidth is good from the stadium out, so as long as Stretch isn't in one of their increasingly common disaster periods it should be pretty smooth. W&L has the ability to move soccer from the big natural grass soccer stadium to the artificial turf field hockey stadium. That field is not quite as big, but as artificial turf goes, it's in good shape. Hopefully that will not happen. I much prefer soccer on large grass fields, but if it really rains hard enough even the expensive drainage at the soccer field won't keep up and the turf field will be a better option.
W&L takes care of business knocking down Guilford on the road 5-0. A strong game for the Generals, though the first half ended scoreless despite multiple opportunities. With over 20 shots against in the second half alone, the Quakers were pinned back and peppered until the flood gates opened.
W&L has dominated the early part of their ODAC schedule, scoring 16 and giving up none en route to a 4-0 record. Va Wes, a non-conf conference opponent, is the lone ODAC team to have scored on W&L so far, and is the only opponent to score on W&L since September 10th. A span of 6 games in which the Generals have scored 19 times. That compares with W&L's first 4 games where they were unable to keep a clean sheet, giving up two goals each to Rowan and Oneonta State, and one a piece to Southern Va and Ohio Wesleyan. The 3-1 record through that stretch, which included games against 3 ranked opponents, had the Generals scoring 10 times.
On to some big OOC games, hurricane willing, with Messiah (D3soccer #12) coming in Saturday and Lynchburg (D3soccer #19), another non-conf conference opponent, the following Wed. Go Generals!
Last night's ODAC results:
Emory & Henry 0 Bridgewater 1
Roanoke 0 Maryville (Tenn.) 4
N.C. Wesleyan 2 Virginia Wes 3
W&L 5 Guilford 0
McDaniel 1 Shenandoah 0
This weekend looks like a fun weekend for the ODAC
W&L hosting Messiah
Noke @ Randolph
Lburg @ RMC
Should see some separation at the top after this weekend.
That was a bad loss for RUC yesterday at 7-3-3 but they still have some very good wins against ranked teams in Haverford and RUN. Still it would really behoove them to get some kind of result at Rowan which would get them one more ranked result. Big game
Well after the hammering Messiah laid on W&L, the Generals need to get back on the horse tonight as Lynchburg comes to visit. Sadly this is a non-conf game, but the winner should have a psychological edge if the teams meet again in the ODAC Tournament.
Some comparative numbers to chew on:
Opponent Lynchburg W&L (9-2, key games L to Rowan and Messiah, W to Oneonta St and Ohio Wesleyan)
Messiah 0-0 Neutral 0-4 home
H-SC 1-0 Home 2-0 home
Va Wes 1-0 Home 2-1 home
EMU 2-1 Away 4-0 home
W&L (9-2, key games L to Rowan and Messiah, W to Oneonta St and Ohio Wesleyan)
Lynchburg (9-0-2, key games T to Messiah, W to Christopher Newport)
NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS (PREDICTIONS)
1) Rowan
2) Lynchburg
3) W&L
4) RUN
5) CNU
6) Kean
7) MSU
8) St. Mary's
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9) Rutgers-Camden
10) Mary Washington/Ramapo/Maryville
Looking like ODAC will be a two-bid league...
CAC a one bid league...
NJAC - Rowan seemingly the only safe team.
Newark has Ramapo away, Rowan home, Stevens away, MSU home... could be sitting on 5 blemishes by end of regular season.
Kean has a fairly easy remaining schedule; NJCU, at Camden, at Drew, TCNJ, Ramapo
MSU has Newark left... should finish 14-5; would need to win opening NJAC playoff game, IMO.
Camden or Ramapo would need to run the table...
MSU (AQ) / ROWAN / RUTGERS-NEWARK would be my 3 choices.
N'JACtion tonight
Rowan over Camden, OT
Newark over Ramapo
MSU over Willy P
TCNJ draw vs Stockton
Kean over NJCU
Quote from: Mr.Right on October 10, 2016, 11:11:54 AM
That was a bad loss for RUC yesterday at 7-3-3 but they still have some very good wins against ranked teams in Haverford and RUN. Still it would really behoove them to get some kind of result at Rowan which would get them one more ranked result. Big game
huge game tonight. i can't see rowan letting up a loss but it will be 1-0 in OT like every year
Despite being out shot W&L takes down Lynchburg 2-1.
rowan with a 2-1 over camden. 2nd goal very lucky. rowan doesnt look strong enough to make a run in the NCAAs.
Rowan rolls on! 2-1 over Camden...Camden sat in as usual. Shots 21-4 for Rowan and they missed a PK. Camden is always a tuff out due to them sitting in and looking for a break to go their way. Camden got a lucky goal on a deflection or it's 2-0 and should have been much worse. Camden never threatened. Big game on Saturday as Rowan travels to Rutgers Newark in a battle for the top of the NJAC!
I still believe that it is MSU's NJAC title to lose this year.
Rowan v Camden was a snooze fest. I fell asleep in the first half and some of the 2nd half. Game flow was just eh... Rowan some flopping on stuck in challenges and Camden some poorly played balls. Camden sat in, but I saw some variations in their tactics... wasn't a straight 4-2-3-1. I was expecting Rowan to be more dynamic and creative in the final third, but I just did not see it. 21 total shots, but some were very ambitious attempts. They will struggle vs more organized/defensive first type teams in the tournament, but the elite 8 run should be there.
Brett came up big for Camden early. The raptors were way more direct as the GK didn't play the ball to the outside backs as much... just booming drop kicks and playing for 2nd balls in the offensive third.
Stockton (1-3-2 [NJAC]) after the TCNJ win last night; Willy P, NJCU, Camden... should steal that last spot for conf playoffs.
TCNJ (3-3 [NJAC]) has MSU and Kean on the road, Rowan at home. Big trouble for the Lions.
The usual suspects in the top of the ODAC
1. W&L
2. Roanoke
3. Lynchburg
Interesting ODAC games this weekend:
Noke @ Va Wes
Macon @ W&L
Frankly, I am shocked that RUN is not in the D3 Top 25. They are 14-2-0. Granted they have played a bit of a soft schedule BUT in their last 8 games they have given up 1 goal. That is 7 shutouts in 8 games. I realize the competition has not been great but half of the games were against NJAC teams. When I saw them earlier in the year I thought they were a bit weak defensively but a good and skilled attacking team with a couple very dangerous players. HUGE game at home v Rowan on Saturday. I would like to catch the game as I have not seen Rowan play yet.
Randolph Macon beats W&L 1-0
Noke @ Va Wes kicks off at 7pm
Quote from: lastguyoffthebench on October 12, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS (PREDICTIONS)
1) Rowan
2) Lynchburg
3) W&L
4) RUN
5) CNU
6) Kean
7) MSU
8) St. Mary's
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9) Rutgers-Camden
10) Mary Washington/Ramapo/Maryville
Looking like ODAC will be a two-bid league...
CAC a one bid league...
NJAC - Rowan seemingly the only safe team.
Newark has Ramapo away, Rowan home, Stevens away, MSU home... could be sitting on 5 blemishes by end of regular season.
Kean has a fairly easy remaining schedule; NJCU, at Camden, at Drew, TCNJ, Ramapo
MSU has Newark left... should finish 14-5; would need to win opening NJAC playoff game, IMO.
Camden or Ramapo would need to run the table...
MSU (AQ) / ROWAN / RUTGERS-NEWARK would be my 3 choices.
N'JACtion tonight
Rowan over Camden, OT
Newark over Ramapo
MSU over Willy P
TCNJ draw vs Stockton
Kean over NJCU
Updated prediction:
1) Rowan
2) W&L (3-2 RvR; could also be as low as #4); Smart scheduling... Wins over OWU, Oneonta St, and Lynchburg...
3) Rutgers-Newark (should be anywhere from 2-0 to 3-1 RvR---). Have Stevens and MSU left + the NJAC... anywhere from #2 to #4.
4) Lynchburg (1-1-1 RvR; CNU-W&L-Messiah); wouldn't surprise me to see Lynchburg as high as #2 as low as #5)
5) CNU
6) MSU schedule not as strong as Emory, but a better RvR
7) Emory
8) Maryville
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9) Rutgers-Camden or Centre (combination of RvR and SOS)
10) St. Mary's
10) Kean (no wins vs Ranked)
11) could see Randolph Macon climb with win over W&L; and 8-2-2 record.
MASSEY RANKINGS / (SOS)
3) Rowan (5)
7) Rutgers-Newark (55)
8) Lynchburg (14)
9) CNU (34)
16) W&L (20)
23) Maryville (176)
24) Montclair St (46)
27) Emory (10)
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29) Kean (98)
40) Rutgers-Camden (12)
Just remember, there is no RvR in the first weekly rankings because there is no previous rankings upon which to base it.
Overall rankings within the region for each category... not too far off from what NCAA released:
Win % SOS RvR SUM
1 Rowan 1 3 2 (4-1) 6
2 RUN 2 6 1 (3-0) 9
3 Lynchburg 3 5 4 (1-1-1) 12
4 CNU 5 10 4 (1-1-1) 19
5 Emory 14 1 4 (1-1-1) 19
6 W&L 7 12 3 (3-2) 22
7 RUC 18 2 4 (2-2-1) 24
8 MSU 11 9 6 (1-2) 26 MSU ahead based on Win % and H2H vs RUC
9 St. Marys 6 15 4 (1-1-1) 25
10 Kean 9 15 5 (2-3) 29
11 Oglethorpe 25 4 - (0-2-2) 29
12 Ramapo 20 11 (1-1) 31
13 Centre 19 14 (1-1) 33
14 Va Wes 21 13 34
15 Gboro 17 18 35
15 Randolph 16 19 35
15 NCWC 11 24 35
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Maryville 3 38 41 SOS below .500
R-Macon 10 42 52 SOS below .500
Noke @ W&L on Wednesday. Big ODAC Tourney seeding implications in this one. Wish I could make it.
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Noke @ W&L on Wednesday. Big ODAC Tourney seeding implications in this one. Wish I could make it.
Yep. W&L really dropped the ball losing to RMC. They need to beat Noke. Shame the game against Lynchburg won't count for ODAC purposes.
Quote from: jknezek on October 24, 2016, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Noke @ W&L on Wednesday. Big ODAC Tourney seeding implications in this one. Wish I could make it.
Yep. W&L really dropped the ball losing to RMC. They need to beat Noke. Shame the game against Lynchburg won't count for ODAC purposes.
I fully expect you all to take care of business on Wednesday and yeah that Randy Mac loss could haunt you all. With an unlikely loss to Noke, you could drop from #1 to #4 in one week. Yikes!
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 24, 2016, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Noke @ W&L on Wednesday. Big ODAC Tourney seeding implications in this one. Wish I could make it.
Yep. W&L really dropped the ball losing to RMC. They need to beat Noke. Shame the game against Lynchburg won't count for ODAC purposes.
I fully expect you all to take care of business on Wednesday and yeah that Randy Mac loss could haunt you all. With an unlikely loss to Noke, you could drop from #1 to #4 in one week. Yikes!
Yeah. W&L needs to get some momentum back. Haven't looked too close to see if anyone is hurt, but this was a bad point of the season to sputter a bit.
Quote from: jknezek on October 26, 2016, 09:49:05 AM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: jknezek on October 24, 2016, 10:40:34 AM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on October 24, 2016, 10:35:56 AM
Noke @ W&L on Wednesday. Big ODAC Tourney seeding implications in this one. Wish I could make it.
Yep. W&L really dropped the ball losing to RMC. They need to beat Noke. Shame the game against Lynchburg won't count for ODAC purposes.
I fully expect you all to take care of business on Wednesday and yeah that Randy Mac loss could haunt you all. With an unlikely loss to Noke, you could drop from #1 to #4 in one week. Yikes!
Yeah. W&L needs to get some momentum back. Haven't looked too close to see if anyone is hurt, but this was a bad point of the season to sputter a bit.
W&L and Noke end in 1-1 draw. Pretty good game IMO.
Seeds all hold in ODAC Tourney.
Semis and Final played in Lynchburg this weekend
Lynchurg vs Macon
Roanoke vs W&L
This is more of a 2018 thing, but thought people here might be interested in a story on D3sports.com about a new conference coming in this region:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2017/06/new-conference-shuffle-coming
This was already posted in the Mid-Atlantic thread, but since there are impacts to the CAC and potentially the ODAC, I thought I would post it here as well.
Quote from: Goldenrj on July 08, 2017, 10:37:19 PM
This is more of a 2018 thing, but thought people here might be interested in a story on D3sports.com about a new conference coming in this region:
http://www.d3sports.com/notables/2017/06/new-conference-shuffle-coming
This was already posted in the Mid-Atlantic thread, but since there are impacts to the CAC and potentially the ODAC, I thought I would post it here as well.
There is also a link in the original article to a June 30th story confirming that the 5 CSAC schools have withdrawn. I'm sure that more shuffling will follow.
Ugh! Just when the ODAC makes adjustments to conference scheduling and finally gets two NCAA bids, they're going to add two weak soccer programs (Ferrum and SVU).
Disappointing to say the least.
Roanoke College Schedule Released:
Mass-Boston
Pfeiffer
@Greensboro
Penn State-Abington
TCNJ
@Averett
@Mary Wash
@Southern Virginia
Lynchburg
Oglethorpe
VA Wes
@Guilford
@W&L
Hampden Sydney
@Shenandoah
Randolph
@Eastern Mennonite
Emory & Henry
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on July 13, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
Ugh! Just when the ODAC makes adjustments to conference scheduling and finally gets two NCAA bids, they're going to add two weak soccer programs (Ferrum and SVU).
Disappointing to say the least.
I don't think the ODAC will add SVa as a member institution. They added Ferrum 100% to solve the football scheduling problem.
Quote from: jknezek on July 13, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on July 13, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
Ugh! Just when the ODAC makes adjustments to conference scheduling and finally gets two NCAA bids, they're going to add two weak soccer programs (Ferrum and SVU).
Disappointing to say the least.
I don't think the ODAC will add SVa as a member institution. They added Ferrum 100% to solve the football scheduling problem.
The article may be wrong, but it does state that SVU has made "overtures" to the ODAC because they will not be a good fit for the CAC once Marymount and Wesley (2 smaller private schools) leave. They get killed by the big D3 public schools.
Quote from: Goldenrj on July 13, 2017, 08:29:39 PM
Quote from: jknezek on July 13, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: NokeAlum15 on July 13, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
Ugh! Just when the ODAC makes adjustments to conference scheduling and finally gets two NCAA bids, they're going to add two weak soccer programs (Ferrum and SVU).
Disappointing to say the least.
I don't think the ODAC will add SVa as a member institution. They added Ferrum 100% to solve the football scheduling problem.
The article may be wrong, but it does state that SVU has made "overtures" to the ODAC because they will not be a good fit for the CAC once Marymount and Wesley (2 smaller private schools) leave. They get killed by the big D3 public schools.
The ODAC basically had an open application competition because they needed a football school. That process as the overture. Ferrum "won" or was chosen from that competition. SVa is going to have to look elsewhere. The ODAC has no need for another member, so unless they are going to throw SVa a bone for some reason above and beyond why they didn't get an invitation in this last round, the overtures have come to a conclusion.
When do the conference previews start to come out?
What kind of previews? The coaches' poll usually comes out the last week in August.
Yeah, I just saw the CAC Poll and preview video last year was posted on 8/26.