Quite excited to see the power of the Mammoths brand even after being knocked out:

"For example, lots of observers here would probably agree that (e.g.) Amherst just plays that way most of the time. Their players are apparently taught to foul people whenever physical contact will produce an advantage."

"Amherst are thugs and the coach either teaches it (at worst) or allows it (at best)."

Very keen to see the evidence for "teaching" any of this, essentially because it doesn't exist, but I understand, the use of "apparently" or "(at worst)" prevents it from being an actual allegation.

Yes, Amherst fouls, I provided enough foul counts to confirm that.  I can't remember any opposition zeroes in any of the games I watched over the last three years.

 

 

Quote from: Hopkins92 on November 15, 2025, 05:08:11 PMCatholic with a chance to end the game on a counter break.

Really should be 1-0 Cards.

With less than 3 mins, that would've really done it.

As could have Amherst's shot that hit the post a minute later.

Haven't been able to watch as much this season, particularly lately, but irrespective, it's definitely worth acknowledging what I understand will be Amherst's twentieth consecutive NCAA tournament this weekend.  It has been a challenging transition season for the Mammoths, but I've seen enough to reasonably expect a higher placed conference finish in 2026. 

Sort of relevant, sort of not:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/oct/19/englands-under-21-leagues-are-filled-with-players-whose-clubs-see-no-future-for-them

Bottom line is that even at the top levels in England, it's a difficult pathway and these are players who are at the very best clubs.  The idea that lots of college players are going to progress to long, well paid professional careers is optimistic at best.  I am guessing the ones that don't progress in England are some of the same ones coming in as more mature players at the college level and who would be undoubtedly attractive to many coaches.

Quote from: SimpleCoach on October 18, 2025, 06:34:17 PM

Quote from: EnmoreCat on October 18, 2025, 06:28:01 PMApart from the US and maybe Canada (that's a wild guess, no idea if accurate) no other country sees it's university system as a conveyor belt of soccer talent.  That probably tells you all you need to know and to my view much of this is pushed by coaches of high performing D1 programmes who are recruiting more experienced internationals. We know an Australian turning 23 this year who moved to the US to play for NC State this season, that doesn't say development to me.  For our code, college is much better placed to enable young men to be student-athletes, not the other way around.

Clearly, US Soccer has no understanding of this.

Hope you are and the litter are doing well @EnmoreCat.

SC.

Summer in downtown (and uptown) Enmore, so no complaints here.

Apart from the US and maybe Canada (that's a wild guess, no idea if accurate) no other country sees it's university system as a conveyor belt of soccer talent.  That probably tells you all you need to know and to my view much of this is pushed by coaches of high performing D1 programmes who are recruiting more experienced internationals. We know an Australian turning 23 this year who moved to the US to play for NC State this season, that doesn't say development to me.  For our code, college is much better placed to enable young men to be student-athletes, not the other way around.

We have a similar issue in Australia, it's called lack of a pyramid, which is what all of Europe has.  For sports like basketball and football, colleges do the development work for NBA and NFL.  Certainly for the latter, apart from the occasional punter who comes from Australia, the pool of available players is clearly identified.  I haven't seen it updated, but the last time I saw it, the average lifespan of a college player drafted to the MLS is like one season.  That doesn't mean they aren't good players, but there is just too big a gap to make up quickly.  I am sure MLS would like to pick up more domestic players, but they are already cherry picking a fair few of the best it seems and I would suggest that whilst those might be missing out on an education, they are getting a better soccer education.  If MLS clubs don't think enough good players are coming through, perhaps they should be thinking more like clubs in Europe than like NBA & NFL franchises and getting more involved in player development earlier. That could work within the college system, but may well work better outside of it.

For what it's worth, my view has changed on this, originally, I liked the idea of being a student-athlete where there is opportunity to potentially progress on the athletic side.  Now, I think, that it makes more sense to use your playing ability to help leverage you into a better academic college.  I'm D3 all the way...

I have struggled to watch too much of any game so far and whilst it's a disappointing result, I stand by my previous comment that I thought the team had overachieved.  It's a young roster that will be a story for 2026.  I'd encourage the Amhaters to enjoy the moment, for the rest of us, we'll always have Vegas.

Amherst 1 Colby 0

After the previous day's loss to the Bobcats, it was with a sense of trepidation that I switched things on to find out how things were going at the Billiard Table That Is Hitchcock Field.  There's no denying the sense of relief at seeing the Mammoths up 1-0 and I suspect the early goal from the prolific AA Junior would have calmed some nerves.  I got to watch a fair bit of the second half and saw the game swing from Colby to Amherst and then back to the Mules towards the end.  I observed one fierce Colby shot blocked quite late, but a desperate Amherst block ensured that the game's outcome wasn't impacted.

The result meant that the Mammoths are equal second on eight points at the half way mark in NESCAC.  The draw against Williams is looking a pretty good result given their subsequent form and with current equal second Wesleyan and Tufts next on Amherst's conference dance card, it appears that the first half of October will be a revealing time.  Right now, I would suggest Amherst has probably over-achieved on expectations given the youthful roster.  I observed that of the nineteen players who saw game time today, that twelve of them were underclassmen, which for the programme's future, is outstanding, but which does make it a little challenging in the immediate one.  In 2024 a much more battle hardened Purple shirted group managed 1-0 results against Bates and Colby and for those who came in late, eventually won the National Title, so perhaps this weekend's effort by a less experienced one is better than it looks.

Irrespective, whoever takes the field is expected to give maximum effort and I saw enough of that today to encourage me for what lies ahead. 

Foul Count: Amherst 14 Colby 12 

Quote from: Hotskull on September 27, 2025, 05:09:13 PM3-0... At Home...on the day of their "Pride game"...Terrible day to be a Mammoth! One of the worst results I have seen in my last 6 years following the NESCAC. This might cancel out last year's National Championship!

Actually, it doesn't, but good try...

Amherst 0 Bates 3

Congratulations to Bates on a well-deserved win.  Not much more to say really.

Foul Count: Amherst 10 Bates 20

Middlebury 0 Amherst 0

It looked a beautiful day in Vermont and I have to say I loved my visit there in 2023, it was a picturesque walk to the field on that sunny Saturday.  I only saw the final 30 minutes today, so observations are purely based on that.  I saw Amherst initially dominating and then the Panthers had a couple of decent chances, but were generally held well by a scrambling Mammoths defence.  It was the same at the other end and not for the first time since I have taken an active interest in these games, the teams were evenly matched.

There are many traits that I am sure Coach Serpone looks for his teams to display and the one most evident to me so far this season has been a gritty resilience.  A team incorporating so may new players could be forgiven for taking time to gel etc, but not for not working hard and the 2025 Mammoths are a hard working unit.  The performances thus far have exceeded my expectations and I think for those with this particular shade of purple in their hearts, there has been a lot to like.

Foul Count: Midd 17 Amherst 13 

Amherst 0 Williams 0

Definitely not a game for the purists, but that really couldn't have been a surprise, but in this particular part of Massachusetts this game is a big deal.  I had the sound down for all but the last 20 minutes or so as I was watching Crystal Palace also draw and it appeared the Mammoths had more of the ball in the Williams area, without really testing the keeper properly (I have a gripe with save statistics, but can leave that for another time) but equally, the Ephs, whilst dangerous on the break, were largely well handled by the White Shirt defence.

I did manage to get to see a rather poor incident involving one of the Amherst subs on a Williams player who had come across to the bench.  Oh actually, it was a Williams sub pushing over an Amherst player, but that probably doesn't fit with the narrative in here.  I'll hold off on allegations about the Williams culture under Coach Siebert, for the moment at least.  There looked to be a good-sized crowd in attendance and there will always be passion.  Things boiled over a few times, but at the end I saw a decent spirit from both sides.

4 points in conference play, plus an overall undefeated record is an impressive start for what is a very young Amherst group.  I suspect the trip to Vermont next week, may be the better gauge of where the 2025 Mammoths really are at, but I have liked what I have seen so far.

Foul Count: Amherst 18 Williams 16

Quote from: Newenglander on September 07, 2025, 12:15:21 AM

Quote from: EnmoreCat on September 06, 2025, 09:29:55 PMThat "very serious note" appears to hopefully have been delivered tongue in cheek according to my highly sensitive ears, but I am regularly wrong too.  Oh and the foul count was 21-13 Conn's way.  Perhaps it was the Camels getting in first...

I think the telling stat in regard to antics is 7 cards(one red) to 2 for Amherst including one for bench behavior......

That's the great thing about statistics, interpretation.

That "very serious note" appears to hopefully have been delivered tongue in cheek according to my highly sensitive ears, but I am regularly wrong too.  Oh and the foul count was 21-13 Conn's way.  Perhaps it was the Camels getting in first...