Quote from: stlawus on December 07, 2025, 08:00:42 PM

Quote from: mhm0417 on December 07, 2025, 07:02:38 PMI think Canton has won around 15 games over the past three seasons combined. 

One thing if they were still competitive, but they are routinely blown out.  Meanwhile the women's team is 8-1.

Women's team has an outstanding coach and they've developed a real culture of accountability and support. Word around the men's program is the coach is a buddy of his players. That doesn't work at any level.

I think Canton has won around 15 games over the past three seasons combined. 

Trinity rolled to the Makofski championship.  I watched the first 10 minutes.  Trinity is certainly all they are hyped to be.  Next-level defensive intensity and they can score inside and out.

Very early of course, but they should certainly make it back to at least the Sweet 16 in March.

Quote from: Caz Bombers on November 23, 2025, 12:25:12 PMLL just isn't very good hoops yet again. IMO Vassar will win the chip.

Probably not, but some of these SUNY schools are some of the worst I've ever seen. 

Quote from: stlawus on November 22, 2025, 03:44:03 PMWithout a doubt the worst weekend of SLU basketball in the post covid era. They actually look poorly coached as well which is a very bad sign. Horrible offensive execution, horrible shooting, horrible body language, just nothing good with this team right now. Have the team's best player hiding in a corner and missing every single front end of a 1 and 1. Can only use the freshmen heavy rotation excuse for so long. Very, very disappointing performances from most of this team's veterans. They are going to get absolutely destroyed by Union and RPI in two weeks if this is their offensive identity. I was pretty optimistic about this team this year but unless there are some drastic adjustments during the Thanksgiving break this is going to get ugly.

Now I need to go back and watch this game.  Odds are most of this is youthful inexperience. The body language being an issue is definitely not acceptable.

Quote from: stlawus on November 11, 2025, 08:59:32 PMSLU clawed back a 24 point deficit at Oswego to get it within 5 in the last minute but too late of an effort. Oswego at one point made 7 straight threes, just one of those games that it's hard to be upset about.  They're coming off a loss at home so the odds were already stacked against a SLU team trying to figure things out early.  Can't underestimate the effect of losing three 4 year starters, and that was on display tonight. Plenty of growing pains for SLU freshmen but they were a big reason for the comeback spark in the final 5 minutes (aside from Dan Anderson's efforts). I can't remember the last time SLU played 5 freshmen for a combined 80 minutes in a game, but I'm looking to forward to this group developing as the season goes on. J'Lin Brown got his first minutes, and looks the part so far even while shaking the rust off.

Saw that RIT made it a game at Nazareth, and even led by 5 late but lost on one of the most insane buzzer beaters I've ever seen.  Brutal.  Hobart taking care of business against Fisher right now.  Very odd to see Fisher so down, but Hobart is definitely playing to the kind of potential we all expect them to. 

You nailed the assessment on Phelan before the season.  Wow....he's going to be a good one. SLU definitely misses those twins that graduated - one coaches at Oswego I believe now. Anderson is a really nice player too. If they had a 6'8" 240 pound rebounder/defender it would help them so much.  Of course that can be said for most D3 teams. 

I watched Oswego and St Lawrence this week.  Oswego seems a bit stronger than last year, at least from the arc. Fowler, the freshman from Liverpool, is a nice player and of course the sophomore Judd is just a great player.

St Lawrence will struggle a bit on the glass this year. Stlawus is spot on about Dan Anderson and the Phelan kid.  Anderson is a really nice player and Phelan, a freshman, you can tell watching him for 5 minutes, will be a great D3 player very shortly. 

I'm hearing Potsdam is very bad this season; possibly worse than Canton. Sad to see. They had a really nice squad a few years back with Isiah Brown who transferred in, became an All American and led them to the SUNYAC finals and then transferred out.  They just can't attract enough talent and when they occasionally do, they can't retain it.

Quote from: stlawus on July 19, 2025, 12:16:41 PM

Quote from: mhm0417 on July 19, 2025, 09:45:20 AMWe just hosted Oswego State coach Jason Leone for a practice with our high school boys.  He showed them a little bit of what a college practice is like and talked to them about what he looks for in a player. (Team first, work ethic, positive attitude) He put them through drills and took time to show them why they were doing the drills.  Really good stuff. The boys had a blast !

A great basketball mind that can effortlessly connect with people. Very easy to see how he's built that program at Oswego.

His Cut Down the Nets satellite camp like this has definitely netted him some of his best players over the years.  It was a wise investment of time and resources when he first got the job.  His on court persona is way different than his off the court one though lol.  Very intense, and at some times seems over the top but he's one of those coaches that still gets the respect of his players when he's heated which is a pretty positive showcase of his coaching philosophy. 

I need to watch him this season!  When the kids were on breaks we were picking his brain about what he looks for - definitely wants 4 year high school guys that buy in to "we" before "me".
He told the boys at the start of the practice that when he's interviewing a recruit and the kid asks "are you going to keep recruiting for my spot?" he knows that's a young man that's not a fit even though he understands and respects the question.
What I really liked was he gives all the returning players drills and areas to work on in the summer and then checks that in the fall to see who did the work that was assigned, so they never get complacent.

We just hosted Oswego State coach Jason Leone for a practice with our high school boys.  He showed them a little bit of what a college practice is like and talked to them about what he looks for in a player. (Team first, work ethic, positive attitude) He put them through drills and took time to show them why they were doing the drills.  Really good stuff. The boys had a blast !

A great basketball mind that can effortlessly connect with people. Very easy to see how he's built that program at Oswego.

I went to Potsdam's as a kid (1980s).  You're right - it was THE camp back then. Man were those fun times and you had the players from those great teams coaching as well as Coach Welsh. Today, they've partnered with a shoe company and it's just not what it was although I believe they still get good numbers. 

SLU just has that reputation that Potsdam used to. They've had a lot of successful teams and people know that, plus it's an excellent camp. Word gets around quickly which makes parents want to send their kids there.

Another SLU note, tomorrow they host their boys basketball camp which is the best in our area by a mile.  When my son went to the camp I was always amazed by the amount of quality instruction he got there. He worked hard, but I will always credit their coaches for helping improve his shooting.
As a high school coach, I want as many of my guys there as possible.  That entire coaching staff does a tremendous job with the kids. They come away with individualized plans on how to grow their game.

Quote from: UfanBill on February 26, 2025, 10:11:30 PM

Quote from: hopefan on February 26, 2025, 06:18:10 AMOld old RPI guy here.... Went to internet and turned on Hobart at Union last night..... GREAT GAME...
It doesn't get any better!!! And the Tanner Tedesco name... yes, I remember trying to keep up with Jim Tedesco...

Jim Tedisco ,Union'72 all time hoops great, and Tanner Tedesco, current Union point guard, are NOT related but it sure is sweet to hear that name once again on the Garnet PA.

BTW Jim Tedisco, who's a New York State Senator, was in the bleachers rooting for the boys Saturday.   

Tedisco played ball?  That's neat - I met him one time when I worked at a local newspaper and he came up for a meet and greet.

Quote from: mhm0417 on February 27, 2025, 08:04:32 PMKuiper

This is an interesting set of new posts on this thread, but to go back to the post that spurred these posts, the practical advice I give kids who are considering playing a sport while pursuing a difficult major is to check if there are a bunch of other people in this major who are currently on the team and ask them if the workload is manageable and how they structure their days to do it.  With engineering, it's one of the reasons it really makes more sense to try to play your sport at a school that is known for engineering.  For example, there are 13 players on the 2024 men's soccer roster at Rochester Institute of Technology who are majoring in a subject that has engineering in the title and there are 11 on the 2024 men's soccer roster at Stevens Institute of Technology listed as majoring in an engineering field.  That's going to affect how a coach/school schedules practices and how much support your going to find on the team from upperclassmen when you need it.

Without naming the school, you make a great point.  This D3 school couldn't have cared less about my kid balancing sports and school. I'd go as far as to say there was zero support.  It's nice to know there are schools that look at this.

The other thing that I think was a factor is the basketball program - both mens and women's - was very weak. 
[/quote]

Quote from: IC798891 on February 24, 2025, 10:56:52 AM

Quote from: mhm0417 on February 24, 2025, 10:35:04 AMMy son got a couple offers at D3 schools for basketball.  He accepted one, enrolled and majored in engineering.  He ended up failing out after a semester. The time demands of the sport and the major were too much for him at 18 years old.  I'm sure he's one of many young people that has happened to. His coach told us that most of these kids major in business or sports management so they have easier workloads while they were on the teams.

Excellent article. 

Yep. There are some majors that are just really, really difficult to excel in if you're also a student-athlete. Obviously there are people who can, and do. But many years ago, I worked at USA Today and we did a study on the majors of football players at D1 schools, and there was a lot of clustering around certain majors. You can read the resulting article on a forum post here:

https://forum.iacbg.rs/index.php?/topic/1490-news-college-athletes-studies-guided-toward-major-in-eligibility/

At least D3 athletics is mostly regional, which cuts down on travel. Penn State's basketball team played UCLA on Saturday afternoon and USC on Tuesday night. So you're missing what, at least four days of class?